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Bayonetta Creator Says Older Games' Unavailability Is "Holding Game Culture Back"

Other ground covered in VGC's Platinum Games interview: Bayonetta 3 updates? (Spoiler: none!)

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Platinum Games' Hideki Kamiya (studio creative director) commented on the frenzy and the sky-high prices attached to certain "vintage" video games, expressing understanding but also pointing out the problems obscenely high prices attached to older games causes--it makes it harder for players to experience classic titles, and this is in his view, "holding game culture back."

In an interview with VGC, Kamiya stated, "As a collector myself, I understand the lure of wanting to have that game in the sealed package," Kamyia stated. "People want the value of that package and not necessarily of the game itself. But as a fan, it's a problem if somebody wants to play a game but they can’t get it because it's being traded in these ridiculous marketplaces."

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He continued, "And the responsibility for keeping those games available belongs to the company that owns the IP. If people want to play a classic game and they can't, because it's not available on new platforms and can't be found in its original form either, that's like a threat ... it's holding game culture back. The people who own the rights to these games should be actively making moves to preserve game culture and making games available to everyone who wants to play them."

In the same interview, Kamiya and Platinum Games' Atsushi Inaba (studio head) covered other ground, including the question they both probably expected: Any Bayonetta updates? Short answer: No.

It largely sounds out of Inaba and Kamiya's hands on what Bayonetta details--including an approximate timeline--they can reveal. Kamiya commented, " … If you remember last time, I said that even though everyone was asking about Bayonetta 3, maybe you should tell everyone to forget about it for a while. I kind of need to keep to that stance for now because ultimately, it's not our decision what to say and when to say it."

In other Bayonetta 3 news, original Bayonetta voice actress Hellena Taylor gave a pretty indirect, sort-of, comment on her involvement in the upcoming game. In response to a fan saying that they could not imagine anybody else voicing Bayonetta, Taylor replied, "Well you might have to." Asked to further clarify, Taylor responded, "I'm not at liberty to say." She later replied to another tweet asking about her involvement in the project, stating "I so wanna answer that one but I'm bound by confidentiality agreement."

Sol Cresta--a retro vertical shooter--is Platinum Games' next big release and will launch on December 9. It will retail for $40 and be available on PC, PS4, and Nintendo Switch.

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Emulation is equally important as it is the only method available to experience and perhaps preserve some of the old retro games. In the long run, emulation will end up the only way forward as the original hardware will eventually die/breakdown with no possibility of repair due to obsolescence.

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The thing is that it's not a responsibility, but a privilege right holders have to make these things available should they choose to. It should be a responsibility, however, and companies who fail to make their games available within a specified amount of time, should have their property forfeited.

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Falcon (Anthony Mackie): He's out of line, but he's right.

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Emulation should be treated like borrowing a book from a library. Old games offer a lot of knowledge about game design and it's important to archive that knowledge and make it accessible.

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@Tiwill44: In some platforms it works kinda like that, Tiwill. You can go to the Internet Archive and play games in their game library through emulation on your browser. However, it is not subject to availability like in the Open Library, so you don't have to wait for some other critter to "return their copy."

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My good friend owns a retro game store here in Ontario, Canada and he makes a killing in his business, 2020 and 2021 so far especially.

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His words ring true for me. But I honestly wonder if, now matter how really good some old games are, playing retro games could be considered niche market more than anything else. With mainstream gaming trying to invest players into time consuming online experiences, and most devs capitalizing on that, the old game availavility sounds like a cure with limited market penetration.

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@santinegrete: In my mind the more important factor is increasing availability for those who want to start making games. Being able to go back and consume older media can help creators to understand what does and does not work about certain mechanics/tech/stories etc.
I definitely agree that the market for this sort of thing would be limited in scope, which is why there should be some sort of license created that allows for the game to be copied for educational institutes or for other developers. That way the devs can still make money off of the older games, but not have to print physical copies of the game.

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@santinegrete: Steam, GOG, EGS, and Xbox all say "that's a damned big niche!"

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well it's very hard since you wanted to play the game that 1st appear on the original console like it was meant to be too - you know the real original feel of it.

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Ironic that their game.looks to be skipping the one platform that gives a **** about keeping old games around instead does just reselling them every generation.

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Personally, I'd like it if there was a viable digital storefront for ISO's and ROM's of older games that can be run on an emulator of the consumers choice. That would eliminate a lot of emulation piracy. I doubt that would ever happen. It's the norm for games to be tied to DRM and proprietary software.

Also, many early game devs and publishers unfortunately didn't have the foresight to preserve their source code, and reverse engineering can be a very intensive process.

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@vl4d_l3nin: well what can you do?

back when x360 released and had lackluster x0 backward compatibility i was wishing ms too would make an actual epsxe level emulator and sold games for it in the basic "download a file, store it where you want it and launch emulator"

but thats just begging for piracy to blossom. 1 person buys a game and can share it to millions of people. and that sharing still happens.

games are culture but ultimately even those lost and destroyed games have their role in our history. kinda like i love watching the original b&w movies as close to their original version as they are. none of the "we modernized it with hd feed and color" junk

even hard drives cost money and consume our world resources. do we really want to hoard 100 copies of some meaningless flash game into some huge ever-growing archive? i get worried of youtubes servers full of pointless shit already

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@vl4d_l3nin: Midway and Capcom have been doing this for awhile, but that's obviously just for their own.

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