BioShock Remaster Trailer Shows How Much Better First Game Looks

@dlaney34: actually it's probably an improvement. Those games did not look great on pc, they seemed more like a lazy console port than anything which they probably were. I'd bet these versions on pc will look better......it wouldnt take much

@DJ-Wolfman09: Why get it again for new graphics? When speaking about Metro - they upgraded the entire gameplay experience, from gun battles, to sound, to yes, the engine itself. If you didn't replay Metro Redux, then you missed out on the experience the developers intended.

You see, often times development gets restricted due to budget, and the designers never get to see their intent. With remasters, (which get created with successful games), Devs get to see their original vision come to light.

It's a win win, but they can be done wrong, and in the aim of profit, over vision.

@imike_m: the only problem with infinite was it was being released on 5 systems all at once. That constraint left the PC version looking very much like a PC port - without much in the way of optimization, although it had better AA and occlusion.

@imike_m: I actually think infinite was still great even in spite of the insane downgrade that happened. The e3 2011 demo was better in every possible way compared to the retail version. I would give my left nut to have the whole game at that quality level and it wasn't just resolution and shit like that the world looked totally different the enemies were better , audio was better, the city was bigger and more detailed and even the sky coaster thing was much more inspired and useful than it ended up being. Don't belive me look it up. Anyway having said all that I still LOVED infinite which says a lot about how well made it was if it can still be a masterpiece after such an insane downgrade that made the watch dogs downgrade look small.

@imike_m: The absolute worst thing about Infinite was that there was no quicksave like the first two games. How can you have fun experimenting with all your weapons and scenarios and finding the most efficient means of dispatching enemies without quicksave? For example, in the first game I only discovered that the easiest, fastest, and most efficient method of killing Big Daddies was to use 4 electrobolt traps in succession (the number is less on lower difficulties) and a single pistol round to set things in motion, through a lot of fun trial and error. With quicksave you can toy with your enemies in a fun sandbox. Without quicksave it's just next goal -next goal -next goal -done. I must've clocked over 100 hours in the first BioShock alone just messing around. Granted my efficient playing style eventually meant that even the hardest difficulty became too easy and I ran into the problem of having too much ammo for all my weapons (especially since I decided to max my Wrench abilities early on by going back to the first level right after I got the camera and took pictures of Big Daddies until the level was maxed out, which didn't take very long) but I greatly enjoyed every moment.

You also can't explore as leisurely in Infinite since you risk losing all progress should something unexpected happen before a checkpoint. With Infinite I lost the open playing style I had in the first 2 games and got a decidedly less exciting linear experience. It wasn't terrible but it definitely wasn't as fun and I finished the game waaay quicker than the first two. Infinite definitely wouldn't mean nearly as much to me without the Burial at Sea DLC since it reminds me of the first two masterpieces.

@imike_m: That is your opinion and I can respect that. My opinion though while it definitely feels like it took a left turn from what made the first two memorable for me, it replaces it with something that makes it memorable on it's own and even then still feels like it belongs. It in no way ruined the series...

@imike_m: I beg to differ. Infinite was amazing IMO.

@Gabe1976: it's not a remake, it's a remaster......HUGE difference. So no, none of the art or assets are going to be remade nor should they. And what does the Tannenbaum comment mean? How does she look like a standard female npc, that doesn't even make sense. This trailer looks much cleaner and sharper than the originals with a higher framerate which is what a remaster is supposed to be.

@Litchie: You didn't like Infinite? I actually did like it, although the ending was somewhat convoluted. Oh, and just so you know, BuyaPC got after me too. I think he/she gets angry easily.

@Litchie: talk about contradicting yourself. "Nice bioshock for free, I was worried you needed to buy the collection to get these". And then without missing a beat " but as a pc gamer isn't remastering pretty pointless". The pretentious idiocy of wanna be elitist gamers never ceases to amaze me. "Remasters are pointless ...,but.....can I get these for free" is essentially what your comment said

@Litchie: 1 and 2 can benefit from the upgrade. Obviously, at max settings, the PC versions already look better than the console ones, but they're old enough that even the PC versions could stand a facelift. Probably some higher res textures, and maybe upgraded particle effects and shit like that. Not much, but nice anyway. And that's why it'll be a free upgrade for PC gamers, rather than having to buy a new copy. And as for Infinite, they straight up said that they aren't doing anything to the PC version because it's already at that higher level, assuming you have the system to run it at max settings. The console version is being remastered to bring it up to the level that the PC version is already.

@jj2112: Is the "new" System Shock not a remake of the first? I don't really see why a completely different set of people would continue a series of games that has been inactive for so long. I'm pretty sure it's just a remake of the first though.

@Pelezinho777: their earlier game system shock 2 was better in my opinion. They watered down their formula a bit and released it on consoles to grab the casuals and it worked.

@nikolistary: No, it is slightly different. For instance, there's now seaweed hanging off the buildings and more pronounced bubbles, where it wasn't in the original; it also looks somewhat darker, perhaps dank. It's more realistic to how the city might look I think, but it's arguable whether that's a plus or a minus. You can get more out of this. One part that's arguably worse simply because it doesn't have sheen on the flooring anymore, is the comparison at 3:35, but again, maybe that's more realistic seeing as the city is wearing out and not being kept up.

Just as huge Bioshock fan, and got all of the Bioshock games, pretty much on all systems (minus the original Bioshock on iPad, and two on 360), I do actually plan on playing this. I'm reading Bioshock: Rapture too. I have Infinite on Steam, but my PC can't run it well, so while it's not my favorite Bioshock, it's the one that'll get the most out of the upgrade for me personally. I can't wait to jump back into Rapture though, even though I've beaten it multiple times already.

@themacaster96: ... that's playing at 30-ish fps

GS never seizes to surprise me these days xD