E3 2017: Phil Spencer Talks Xbox One X Potentially Being Held Back By PS4 Deals

@t1o9n9y1: It's a rumor, that's why.

The PC version of Destiny does not have a FPS cap.
the PS4/Pro does have a 30 fps cap.
there is no reason why the X should have a FPS cap, it's as capable as a high end PC.
the X does have a 30 fps cap.

therefore, people speculate that the only reason there is a cap is because of some deal that Sony made with Activision.

BTW pretty much every other third party multi plat game WILL benefit on the X.

@Barighm: Phil has saved the X1. If you listened to the video, you'd know that Microsoft and Sony make money off of software sales, not hardware sales. The best thing Xbox has done this generation is bring their 1st party games to Windows 10. It has expanded their player base significantly. Xbox is doing a lot better than you think. Just because they have half the consoles sold in the wild compared to Sony doesn't mean Microsoft is failing.

@Pyrosa: I think MS got in trouble for the same thing before, but they haven't stopped doing it.

It's no different from MS making deals with chip makers to prevent people from using Windows 7 or 8.1 on newer processors.

@yukushi: The X is far more powerful than the Pro, which isn't even capable of native 4K in most cases... Regardless, we don't know what framerate the X could actually run Destiny at. Considering its GPU is rumored to be the equivalent of a GTX 1070, it likely wouldn't get 60 fps at 4K. That being said, it will still get native 4K, unlike the Pro which will only have upscaled 4K.

@yukushi: Destiny 2 is OPEN WORLD??? Since when?

@yukushi: it's not powerful enough to run 60fps on 4k, but they should offer options to run 60fps at a lower res

@garyhove: Hardware power has never been what has won console wars. The N64 was weaker than the PS1. The PS2 was weaker than the original Xbox. The Xbox 360 was weaker than the PS3. More often than not, it's the underdog hardware that actually tends to fair better, likely because of the cheaper price point in some cases.

The X1 and the PS4 are more or less identical with the PS4 having a slight edge. The reason Sony has taken the lead was because of a cheaper console and maintaining a large library of quality exclusives. It really doesn't matter when the PS5 will launch (I doubt its in two years given the Pro released last year), but obviously Microsoft will also consider how to react to whatever Sony does.

Ultimately, what matters most is the games. The Switch is the weakest console this generation, yet it has some of the strongest hardware out of all three console platforms. Power is inconsequential in the end. If you want power, stick to PC gaming which will always be ahead of consoles. The XB1X, at best, is a decently high-end gaming PC, but not nearly the top, and it hasn't released yet.

I also guarantee you Sony won't want to jump the gun too quick, because Sony will always look to have a cheaper price point if they can help it. As it stands, technology is not to the point where they can make a significant leap from the Pro without it being costly.

@garyhove: PS5 coming out in 2019 would NOT be out of sync. PlayStations are released 6 years apart.

@garyhove: The market has been out of sync since it was created right up until the XB1 and PS4 launches. Back in the 90s, there was always one console more powerful being released every two years. If it wasn't Sega, it was Nintendo, if it wasn't them it was Sony.

@garyhove: That makes no sense. You could make an argument for the Pro forcing MS to respond with the One X, but not that the PS5 will be a response to the One X. Xbox One = PS4. One S = Slim and Pro = One X.

@speed45823: could not be more true.

@speed45823: Yeah, and with 10nm just around the corner, we'll see a proper generational leap soon enough, but this has never been about making better consoles. It's about trying to cash in the same way mobile phones do. The problem is these fools don't realize gaming isn't as big a market as smartphones, nor do they understand that many people regard their phones as an integral part of their lives.

@speed45823:

Indeed.

The problem is both Sony and Microsoft both decided to release a 'new system' mid cycle. I can understand why, of course; technology is advancing dramatically and every day that advancement is faster and faster.

But to the consumer, this seems like madness or cash grabbing. Before long we will all have 4K HD TVs and not long after that something new will be released.

@Arkhalipso: For now. A year from now MIGHT, MIGHT be a different story. Admittedly, It does remain to be seen how well the XB1 X will sell.

@Arkhalipso: Yeah, people don't seem to understand devs willingly choose to hold specs back at times. AAA studios have been closing left and right and going indie just from the 1080p generation, now people expect they will start pumping out 4K games like it's no big deal?

@abd_alazeez2002: My feelings exactly. Make sure the next Halo or Gears are the best looking games anyone has ever seen, and people will buy your console. It's as simple as that.