E3 2017: Phil Spencer Talks Xbox One X Potentially Being Held Back By PS4 Deals

How ironic that there's talk about the Pro holding back the XoX when the Xo has been holding back the PS4 from day one. Even CD Project Red wouldn't commit to a Pro patch. What a weird twisted reality Microsoft lives in. Even Ubisoft publicly announced as much with forcing both versions of Assassins Creed to run 900p to avoid any console debates saying it would have been 1080p on PS4 but they wanted parity. The Xbox has traditionally held back everything including PC gaming. So now they have a powerful console for the first time in well over a decade now everyone else is at risk of holding back there measly 6TFLOP from giving you that coveted 4k/60.

Hard to argue with what he said. Companies pulling exclusives for their console always felt low. But he worded things very carefully. Xbox announced plenty of multi-platform games as "console first exclusive" which implies a time lock. Is a time lock on a game really so much better and clean than time locked exclusive maps and items in-game? Hardly.

But on this whole debacle about destiny 2 locked at 30 frames... So much wild speculation going on. But I believe the simple answer is usually the correct one. XboneX can play with Xbone, and XboneS. So why allow the X to get an edge over the other 2? That is just asking for trouble. XboneX CAN'T play with PS4 (at the time of this writing) So why would Sony block that, but allow it on PC? It would just explode in everyone's faces exactly like the comments sections already are.

But, time will tell. I am still waiting to see what the deal with Anthem is. I have a feeling there will be a couple exclusives in that deal, but we will see. I hope Phil Spencer sticks to his guns. Seems like hes more for the consumer than the previous heads of the Xbox division.

I don't know who thinks the Pro is going to hold the X1X back. It doesn't make sense.

Gets fishing rod out:

But if anybody was to do a deal to hold back technical innovation on a video game anywhere else, that doesn't feel good for the industry to me."

You mean like consoles do to PC games?

I think it's absurd to suggest that Destiny 2 will be on 30 fps on Xbox X because Sony made a deal to hold them back. Even to pose it as a questions seems more like fuel for click bait articles.

The by far more plausible reasons are either that they want parity between all Xbox players and having some of them on 60 fps would give them an unfair advantage (it's a bullshit reason I know but it has been done before) or that Xbox One X simply can't deliver 60 fps on the specific game. Let's not forget that although its graphics card is extremely powerful, the CPU is only a 30% faster than the original Xbox One.

@Abomination713: that makes no sense. If the games that will play on the ps4pro & x1x has to play on the base models with the same frame rate, resolution, or whatever, what is the point of getting the more powerful consoles? does this unwritten rule you perceive only spy to PvP? FFV has a 60FPS version playable on ps4pro, but it won't play at that rate on my ps4. Also, it will have mp soon. Of course the games that play on ps4pro & x1x will play on the original consoles, but if they aren't allowed to be faster, prettier, bigger, better, what the heck purpose do they serve?

@Abomination713: Common sense escapes most people typcial big wig talk making excuses why their shiny toy isnt being used like we gamers want it to.

@girlusocrazy: frame rate =/= bigger or more complex. Again, see many ps4pro games, like FFXV. Better frame rate & textures etc, than ps4 version, & still runs on ps4. It can't be that hard to comprehend. Even if they just copied the ps4pros method of releasing patches, or having extra data on discs/dl that only the x1x uses to enhance frame rate, resolution, textures, even AI, they would have no problems making the better hardware push out a better experience.

i don't think Sony would have dictated to activision what the XOneX frame rate should be, I would imagine bungie did it to keep parity between all consoles since destiny has a competitive side

So basically what PS4 owners had to deal with when games were nerfed to compensate for Xbone.

The Xbox One is weaker than the PS4 and Sony hasn't said anything about the Xbox One holding them back so why would it be any different here?

Here in lies the biggest problem and has been for some time now. MS refuses to spend the money that Sony does for their respective gaming depts. Last time i checked Sony was spending about 40% more related to marketing and such compared to MS. This is very interesting considering MS could easily outspend Sony and really put a lot of pressure on them. MS's video game segment is like a hobby that they dabble in, where as for Sony's its one of their significant areas of profit. MS in my opinion should lower costs to developers, sell the XB1X at loss and increase their marketing dollars to gain back market share. They can afford to take a loss now for a longer term bigger share of the market. If they put up enough dollars to developers they will get the best versions of the games when they come out. But as of now, I simply don't see them doing so.

If this crap is going on behind closed doors by Sony or Activision I swear I will never purchase another game made by either company. I love my PS4, Switch and Xbox and I say this shit is wrong.

We will see when the game is released.

I think what Phil Spencer had to say here is good. I'm not a console exclusive person by any means but I like what he had to say. I'm looking forward to both the Xbox one x and the rest of this interview

Sony blocking cross-platform play is shitty, but I suppose they don't have anything to gain from it.

I respect Microsoft for coming out with the Xbox One X, but I think it might be a little late in the game. Sony has a massive lead on them. And with the lack of exclusives, they will be relying on 3rd party game developers to make use of their new consoles systems. The problem is, most won't. On average, most games will probably look nearly the same and run the same across the PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X.