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Epic Games Boss Defends PC Exclusive Strategy

Tim Sweeney shares his thoughts.

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One of the biggest storylines in the gaming industry over the past year is how Epic is going after Steam with its own store and paying for exclusives. It's brought and or will bring games like The Division 2 and Borderlands 3 to the Epic Store, with Steam releases only potentially coming months after release. Now, Epic founder Tim Sweeney has offered some insight into why the company is pushing so hard.

In a Twitter thread, Sweeney spoke about how Epic believes pursuing exclusives is the "only strategy" to change the current 70/30 revenue split between publishers and storefronts. The 70/30 model is considered to be the industry standard, with 70 percent of revenue going to developers/publishers and 30 percent to the storefront.

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However, Epic's new Epic Games Store only takes 12 percent, giving 88 percent to publishers/developers. This makes the story theoretically more attractive, and on top of that, Epic is paying some studios to release their games as timed-exclusives.

"We believe exclusives are the only strategy that will change the 70/30 status quo at a large enough scale to permanently affect the whole game industry," Sweeney said.

Sweeney went on to say that other independent games retailers have done "great work" in recent years, but none of them have been able to even hit 5 percent of Steam's scale (outside of the stores run by huge gaming publishers). While Epic's pursuit of exclusives might make the company unpopular with some subset of Steam users, the strategy of pursuing exclusives does work, Sweeney maintains.

Sweeney went on to say that the 30 percent "store tax" can erase any profits a developer might see, which creates a "disastrous situation." If the Epic Games Store can become No. 2 behind Steam, or if it can spur change on Steam with regards to its revenue split, the result would be a "major wave of reinvestment in game development and a lowering of costs," he said.

Ultimately, pursuing exclusives as Epic has done is a benefit to gamers in the long-run, according to Sweeney. It may not be easy to get to a new, better place, however. "There are LOTS of challenges along the way," Sweeney admitted.

You can read Sweeney's full comments on exclusivity below.

One of the latest Epic Games Store exclusives is Shenmue III, and like with other titles that took Epic's money, people are not happy about it.

Tim Sweeney Statement On Epic Games Store Exclusives

"We believe exclusives are the only strategy that will change the 70/30 status quo at a large enough scale to permanently affect the whole game industry.

For example, after years of great work by independent stores (excluding big publishers like EA-Activision-Ubi), none seem to have reached 5% of Steam’s scale. Nearly all have more features than Epic; and the ability to discount games is limited by various external pressures.

This leads to the strategy of exclusives which, though unpopular with dedicated Steam gamers, do work, as established by the major publisher storefronts and by the key Epic Games store releases compared to their former Steam revenue projections and their actual console sales.

In judging whether a disruptive move like this is reasonable in gaming, I suggest considering two questions: Is the solution proportionate to the problem it addresses, and are gamers likely benefit from the end goal if it’s ultimately achieved?

The 30% store tax usually exceeds the entire profits of the developer who built the game that’s sold. This is a disastrous situation for developers and publishers alike, so I believe the strategy of exclusives is proportionate to the problem.

If the Epic strategy either succeeds in building a second major storefront for PC games with an 88/12 revenue split, or even just leads other stores to significantly improve their terms, the result will be a major wave of reinvestment in game development and a lowering of costs.

Will the resulting 18% increase in developer and publisher revenue benefit gamers? Such gains are generally split among (1) reinvestment, (2) profit, and (3) price reduction. The more games are competing with each other, the more likely the proceeds are to go to (1) and (3).

So I believe this approach passes the test of ultimately benefitting gamers after game storefronts have rebalanced and developers have reinvested more of their fruits of their labor into creation rather than taxation.

Of course, there are LOTS of challenges along the way, and Epic is fully committed to solving all problems that arise for gamers are for our partners as the Epic Games store grows."

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Wow... so many people are bothered by a digital storefront.

Who cares

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@gargar:

I mean, you said yourself "so many people". That's who cares. You're actually making it sound like you're the odd one out for pretending not to.

And it's pretty obvious that they're not bothered by a digital storefront; they're bothered by that digital storefront bribing companies into not selling their products elsewhere.

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@Jolteon: You really need to get out more.

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@gargar: Not sure someone commenting on a Gamespot article at 10:30 at night has a lot of room to make comments like this.

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@Jolteon: You do know that there is more than one time zone, right? maybe someplace else it's morning?

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@gargar: That...literally doesn't change anything?

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The split, the split, the goddamn split. How many actually still believe that split bullshit anymore? Companies don't go to Epic because they get more from sales; a bigger piece of a much, much smaller pie isn't that great. No. It's the, apparently if what SNK recently said is true, thousands of copies that Epic pre-orders to get the exclusivity that's the real prize for scum publishers.

And it all boils down to the trickle down fiction. "Oh, if the companies made more money, they would totally reinvest it into the company to make better games! They don't even need to sell if for as much! It's a win-win!" Bullshit. That never happens. It's never happened in other industries, it won't happen with the exceptionally avaricious games industry. Companies hoard any bit of cash they get and don't use a single dime more than they absolutely need to.

Die in a ditch, Epic.

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The bottom line is that people are angry because Epic is not disrupting the market, they are distorting it.

If the Epic games store was a better storefront than Steam, then people would naturally gravitate towards it. That's how the free market is supposed to work. You create a better product than your competition, and consumers will reward you for it.

But that's just not happening. There's really nothing special about the Epic games store itself that makes people think "I want to buy my games through Epic because they deliver a better experience". Instead, Epic is just using their deep pockets to essentially say "buy it here or don't buy it at all". In those circumstances it doesn't matter if their storefront is garbage, because it's the only option available.

Build a better storefront than Steam, and people will start finding less and less reason to object to the Epic games store. Keep throwing your money around in order to distort the market and force people to use your platform, and people will continue to treat you as villians.

There's one last point that I think is kind've interesting. I've seen comments about how "Steam is letting Epic walk all over them", and it's an interesting question. There's a lot of venom being spewed against Epic for buying up exclusives, and thus far Steam has not responded in kind. That's the thing though, let's say hypothetically Steam does start buying exclusives. Would it be hypocritical to defend Steam for doing it? Or is it the case that Steam is just punching back? Personally I approve of the fact that they aren't responding in kind, but the longer this continues, the more understandable it would be if they decide to.

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Utter and complete horseshit from Sweeney, plain and simple.

The cost to play games for consumers has never been lower. We, as customers, have no direct financial gain from this.

The "trickle down" mentality is a phantom that people like Sweeney can promise without ever being able to guarantee.

Which leads me to this quote:

"the result would be a "major wave of reinvestment in game development and a lowering of costs"

All this does is lower the publication cost for established producers so they can raise the invisible bar for acceptable quality in games via this "reinvestment" avenue.

Now, an indie will have to compete with titles that have larger production budgets.

So the costs arent really going away, they're just moving somewhere else that isnt a predictable industry standard.

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@Richardthe3rd: What Sweeney doesn't say is there's already been a massive lowering of costs through digital distribution. Even with Steam taking a cut, it's more money in the pockets for developers to sell digital than to take the multi-leveled revenue cuts associated with producing, distributing, and selling a physical copy.

He's making a bald faced lie and he knows it. He's just hoping people won't question his obvious lies and game journalists never do.

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@Thanatos2k: absolutely correct, 100% agree.

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I'm not mad at any developer who puts their game on Epic's store. If they want to get paid, let them get paid. Developers got to eat too. You guys getting all pissed about TIMED exclusives. GTFOH and enjoy life or something.

Also if you game on STEAM, you most likely have a huge backlog of games to play. Go play those games and wait till the game comes on STEAM.

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Quoting Sweeney from this interview/article https://www.pcgamer.com/tim-sweeney-microsoft-uwp-is-still-woefully-inadequate/

"Well, I should be very clear," Sweeney said. "The thing that I feel is incredibly important for the future of the industry is that the PC platform remains open, so that any user without any friction can install applications from any developer, and ensure that no company, Microsoft or anybody else, can insert themselves by force as the universal middleman, and force developers to sell through them instead of selling directly to customers."

He's a hypocrite talking out his a$$.

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@Fursnake: Yes, his past words can be shoved into his face, but no interviewer is brave enough to do it. He's a despicable liar.

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Ya epic games end stream because we all want company make games again .

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well is going to be a battle then. epic games seem doing the right thing lately.

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Business is business and it amazes me that so many dont get that... how exactly do you think Valve got to be where they are.... exclusive choice.. they offered a platform for developers and as they were the better choice at the time.. they won the market... Epic has buying power.. thats business.. if you think the developers look at these deals as though they care about you... think again. they want the money. Epic approach to taking over the market its Genius and i applaud them... they will win because in the end, bitch all you want but when it comes down to it if you want to play a said game... ur going to buy it from them... or wait the year when everyone has moved on to something else...

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@untouchables111: Valve has never bought exclusivity, demanded exclusivity, or encouraged exclusivity on their store.

Any games exclusive to Steam were because the developer themselves chose not to release it anywhere else.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

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@Thanatos2k: either do you... steam didn't just appear as they are now.. limited choice was how they got to the place they are. they set up APIs that made them the easy choice and it expanded from there. they have been the "go to" for PC gaming because no has challenged that till now. its simple business but so many refuse to see it for anything else than butt hurt BS.

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@untouchables111: What the hell are you talking about. You're saying they got to be the way they did because they were the best platform? Yeah, we know. That in no way forces exclusivity.

You are making up absolute nonsense. Stop peddling ignorance and lies.

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@Thanatos2k: except I’d argue it was because back in the beginnings of steam it was not built to be what it is now. It was just like every other publisher launcher. Then they took over by...being the best by offering and doing what apparently no one else would. So yeah id say 100% simple logic says they forced exclusive conditions by dominating the market.

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@untouchables111: Yes, so please explain again how they forced exclusivity and limited choice just by being the best platform? They didn't, so stop pretending they did.

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@untouchables111: Ah, a typical troll comment. You probably don't even have a gaming PC and just want to start arguments for fun.

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@m4a5: no ur right i have 2

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@untouchables111: 2 what?

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@m4a5: 2 phones, probably.

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@untouchables111: The point about moving on is valid only for multiplayer games. In terms of single player ones people can and some will wait. I know I will, unless GOG will really make their promise and Galaxy will allow games from all the major stores to be launched though it. Than my complaining will be over.

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don't worry guys, he's a CEO of a gaming company, we can trust him 100%

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Of course he does. Sociopaths never think they’re doing anything wrong.

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If it's not on Steam it doesn't exist

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@BabeNewelll: Valve loves neckbeards like this :D

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My only question in all this is what is your strategy here steam? I mean i get the whole wait and see approach but at this point you are letting Epic walk all over you. I mean can u imagine the money Steam would lose if Epic had manged to convince CDPR with a large enough sack of cash to make Cyberpunk 2077 a 1 year exclusive?

As for all the public outrage? Its doing f all as far as i can tell.

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@ghost140: Steam hasn't lost one full market share point to epic yet so, the best strategy for them is just to keep the ball rolling. For the public outrage doing nothing, well... maybe you should read a bit more about the community's mood because there are literally thousands of people (me included) who only got epic launcher installed so they can benefit the free games and don't intend to buy anything ever. Yeah, epic isn't doing jack about the public outrage and this is exactly what's stopping them from becoming a real threat to steam.

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@heqteur: other than exactly what ur doing.....lmao. preach about being against them and their absent public issues all the while turning a blind eye for a free game... yeah you deff have you morals right.

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@untouchables111: Having Epic compensate the dev for giving us a free game while not giving Epic money is a perfect way to exploit them.

Try again troll.

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@m4a5: ... ok your statement seems to contradict it self.... If epic offers a dev money to offer their game for free.. thats a good thing for the dev. more players more traffic for their content...

Who's getting exploited...? Epic is obviously not getting money if the game is free..

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@untouchables111: "Who's getting exploited...? Epic is obviously not getting money if the game is free.."

And you answered your own question. Congrats troll.

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@m4a5: so epic and a dev willingly enters into a contract... sets a price.... time passes.. epic goes back to the dev....offers to waive their cost and pay for each customer sale ... dev get all the money... or flip it, epic ask the dev to give it away for free.. no one makes money....

....again whos exploiting who...

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Yeah, not buying it. Epic should put that money that they're paying for exclusives with to take a hit and undercut the prices from other stores ($5, $10, $15 cheaper than anywhere else artificially) so there's an incentive to go to their store. You know, in a friendly competition way that doesn't screw over customers and our choice?

Until Epic stops with the BS and stops screwing us over, I will not be buying any timed exclusives on the Epic store (and will more than likely not spend money on the store in general).

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@m4a5: when was your choice ever effected.... last time i checked there are no laws that say you must buy a game.... your choice ended at the moment you decided to buy the game... after that there is only buy it where its sold or dont....

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@untouchables111: That's.. not how that works. I can't tell if you're trolling, or desperately trying to defend this...

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@m4a5: then how does it work... please attempt to use logic that prove your ability to choose to play the game was effected by Epic games.....ill wait

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@untouchables111: That's the route you're going with? No one cares if a person chooses to play a game. The choice where to buy is what matters (and no one likes being forced into an undesirable situation).

Try again troll.

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@m4a5: How does the choice where of to buy matter when you never!! had a hand in deciding where its sold in the first place...see your perspective places this hovering idea that all the games they get as exclusive were already being sold on other platforms...if i announce a new game tomorrow and say its available on X day exclusively on the Epic Store.... at what point was your choice involved in that...

By your attempted logic you must be pissed off all the time cause you can only buy Baby Gap clothing at...u guessed it Baby Gap. or heck even ur Vape pens or you preferred Gas for your car... ur so pissed you gotta drive all the way to Station X to get you car filled up.. how dare they..

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@untouchables111: ...What? Now I honestly can't tell if you're using troll logic or just are extremely ignorant.

But in anycase, have fun trying to convince people that removing choice is good...

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@m4a5: you cant remove something that wasn't there to begin with... again>>>

"if i announce a new game tomorrow and say its available on X day exclusively on the Epic Store.... at what point was your choice involved in that"... when was your choice you mentioned removed.....

your not providing any constructive feedback... calling me a troll is not helping you.. if you want to make a statement that im wrong have at it..

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@untouchables111: "you cant remove something that wasn't there to begin with"

Metro Exodus, Shenmue 3, Sinking City, to name a few, WERE on Steam. Do your research before commenting, because you look like a fool man.

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There is a fix for Epic hijacking games: torrent.

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we get it epic. you think your one of the big boys, because you've been making games for years. and you're butthurt at your own inability to produce a product capable of carrying a sales platform.

so you rob some dudes idea before it comes to fruition, grub as much cash with predatory microtransactional crap, to wage a war against valve. It's got nothing to do with whats right for the industry, sweeney's just salty.

i was looking at getting a pc for cyberpunk, and other games going forward. but with epic holding monopoly on games, and censorship on consoles. I might have to dust off a megadrive or something.

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@dynamotnt: man, as a PC land member for 25 years let me assure you that Sweeney isnt accomplishing shit by doing this.

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