Fallout 4 Mod Remaking Fallout 3 Shut Down

It Never ceases to surprise me how Little Bethesda does to support the modding community. I'm quite certain there is a legal document that Bethesda could have had the modders sign that would have allowed them to use the content that is causing the problem but no, they just say your infringing on our property and if You can't find a work around then you need to cancel your project throwing away all the many long hours already spent on the project to this point. SHAME on you Bethesda. I guess from now on I will have to seriously think about buying anything else from Bethesda including Fallout 5. What a pity!

I've said it many times, if you really wanna make stuff like this you gotta do it anonymously and let the internet (pirating community basically) distribute it. Yes you can't get all the fame and glory, at least not as your real self, but there's no way to shut it down.

Gotta love Devs and their penchant for passing out Cease & Desist orders on mods/remakes which they have no intention of ever remaking themselves, and even when they do it's not a real remake but some minimal effort "HD Remaster". (i.e. a port of the PC Version running on Ultra by default)

Modders need to learn to produce these mods anonymously and to only announce them after they've already been released and distributed across the web.

It's a shame that more developers aren't smart enough to hire such talented modders and sell their work. I can't imagine that they'd be expensive to hire, and the potential profits generated by high quality remakes would be outstanding.

Never ask for permission. The answer will always be no. Just do it, release the mod, and when the DMCA comes, take it down and let the internet do the rest and distribute it. Like those Pokemon guys did.

> ...or requiring Fallout 3 to be owned in conjunction with an audio extractor.

I would assume this would be a requirement. So in buying the game, everyone gets their cut according to contracts.

If Bethesda had done their own graphics upgrade and given it out, would it have been allowed or would they have been required to pay the voice actors again?

I do understand though that Bethesda wasn't doing it, thus the grey area of having modders do it. Though I wonder, what if Bethesda "hired" them, or paid them a small stipend as contractors? Would that have gotten around the issues? What have other modders done with games that include voices?

Anyways, sad to see this recreation end.

Hey that's too bad. Maybe they could release some of the locations they made as mods. Not as good as the full game but something.

@zero_juice: Bethesda didn't shut it down. I was in the live stream and from when I asked it was more due to the 2 VA's that caused this incident. Right now the project is in a grey zone and so is neither illegal or legal to do however there might come a time when it could be pursued and the maker didn't wish to take any risk in the project. Its kindof sad considering that the team doing the Oblivion remake and the other ones are willing to take that risk themselves as they haven't even bothered contacting Bethesda on the matter (I'm on the Morrowind team for them so this much I know).

To clarify: The modding team working on this... They contacted Bethesda themselves and asked if it were legally ok.

But here I sit. Waiting for my precious KotOR remaster.

Waiting for the Skyblivion team to follow suit. Seriously, you can't expend in a mod the same time and resources it'd take a whole new game. I'm sure people at Bethesda feel very sorry for the path these over enthusiastic modders have chosen. Eventually, Todd Howard will announce TESVI with a brand new engine and they'll be still half way through on the old same project just to start from scrap all over again.

"Unforeseen"? Really? You got your hat on backwards or what?

Bethesda really should just hire him

these things for one reason or other never seem to get finished anyway... they should go for smaller projects, for instance go for a portion of the map, and leave it open for other modders / teams to work on the other areas.

realistically i'd rather just have them make new areas (far harbor size perhaps), they can make more realistic goals for themselves, and even better if they succeed they can start on another new area.

That's too bad, I really enjoyed 3 far more than NV and 4 (Out of the Bethesda Fallout games). Maybe one day we will get some true remakes of these.

This isn't on Bethesda, the modder waited 2 yrs to check on the voice acting. Bethesda doesn't own the VA, so they can't give permission. If the modder went ahead, ppl like Liam Neison could sue them. The modder doesn't wanna erase all the VA.

So its just something that sucks, but happens sometimes.

Such a shame.

I wasn't looking forward to this necessarily, but it would've been cool to experience if it ever got to that phase.

Good. All these kinds of projects need to be cancelled. They never see the light of day anyway, and by the time they do, the next sequel has already released. Still waiting on Morroblivion. Modders shouldn't waste their time. I'd rather see their talents spent on something we can actually use