Hotline Miami 2 sexual assault scene under review

They could very easily implement an option for choosing to view it or not in the settings.

keep it in the game, the people who complain dont need to play it

its 18+ or 21+ get over it u grown up kids trapped inside...

Have a game with extreme ultra-violence and nobody panics... but include an 8-bit sexual assault scene, and everyone loses their minds! Let's talk about the hypocrisy of gamers and the arbitrary lines they draw in the sand, I take offense when political correctness stifles expression, and here we have a case of uptight gamers that don't mind violence but condemn another type of violence when it's used in a more artistic manner because why - it's hard to stomach? that's the point. Movies have included scenes (ex: History of Violence) such as that with dramatic effect, yet Hotline Miami can't do it? If you're going to condemn violence, condemn all violence not just that which you deem inappropriate. Otherwise, the world isn't meant to please you and if you're offended or not smart enough to understand story or character development then please go play a different game and take your stifling opinions somewhere else.

This is a game for a highly mature player base, that means it is for people who can think straight and tell right from wrong. Even if the game is violent, it is true to its storyboard and can tell it in hyper-coloured bloody and violent scene to tell the tale properly. It makes the story more realistic and more near reality. If you can't handle it then this ain't for you.

" We didn't add the scene just to be controversial."

Riiiight....

Mankind is violent by nature. Wars have taken place for thousands of years, and hundreds of millions have perished through countless acts of violence & terror. We have read about it through history books & seen it firsthand, and unfortunately have become de-sensitized to it.

Now unfortunately we are also seeing an escalation in acts of sexual violence, & unless hotline miami does something to sensitize & educate(?) all of us to this atrocious act, then i guess it will just be another placeholder kinda thing, 'there is anyway so much of violence, so what the hell is wrong with 1 scene like this?'

Guys get splattered all over the place, and the thing people care about is a single case of sexual assault.

I couldn't be affected, but... Oh man here comes Fox News.

Wedin seems like a very thoughtful guy. I trust that they'll do the right thing and figure out a way to present this in context, or cut it if it continues to provoke horrific emotional reactions.

i dont get why this is such a big deal that kind of stuff is always in movies and nobody cares but god forbid it be in a video game.

If you're that sensitive, stay away from such games. Play games rated for six-year old children. Draw ponies. Watch Disney Channel. Don't play games that deal with crime and violence. Also, if footballs trigger some trauma of yours, don't ask that football be played without footballs. Stay out of the stadium.

I'm not gonna say how I feel about the scene, but I will say I respect the guy for talking about it instead of just immediately backing down or telling critics to **** off.

Xbox one is available in 13 countries Nov. 22. 2013 .. i feel bad for sony Japan fans they wont be seeing the Ps4 till Feb. of 2014 ps 4 is japan's product i just dont understand how sony could be such a sale out

I feel as though I'm becoming more and more disgusted in the general gaming community as the days go by. It's one thing to endlessly rationalize murder in your games, but now we have people encouraging developers to include sexual assault as a game mechanic simply for the sake of the violence already associated with the medium.

How in the hell is the industry supposed to evolve from crap like this, when the community encourages MORE acts of aggression and violence, simply because they're all fickle gamers who will jump to defend the industry from any naysayers, regardless of the situation at hand? Short answer: It won't.

I've said it a few times now, but I seriously can't say it enough since the majority here clearly thinks otherwise, which is disgusting. Sexual assault does NOT need to be a game mechanic, ever, and anyone encouraging it is deeply disturbed, plain and simple.

showing a man murdering 100 people in many different ways = fine

rape scene = wrong

I'm not saying that rape is ok but if you dont mind killing you dont mind rape or any other kind of stuffs, it is a game A GAME! everybody should know that, and it is rated M so it is not for kids who may or may not understand that it is A GAME!

if you dont like the GAME dont play it, why are they making such a problem i cant understand...

I get where people are coming from in comparing violence to sexual assault in video games, since they're both unnecessary forms of aggression in media. But at the same time, 'killing' has been sort of a thing since the beginning of video games, and more than anything at this point, it's simply a game mechanic. There's way to rationalize violence, even when it's not rational, in a video game (as ridiculous as that sounds). I don't wait sexual assault being a GAME MECHANIC. Period.

This is the difference in video games and movies. In a movie, you 'observe' sexual assault, and quite frankly that disturbs me far more than seeing someone get shot. I don't want sexual assault being an interactive experience, at any point, ever, and anyone encouraging it is wrong.

That said, I love Dennaton and Hotline Miami, and regardless of its content, I will be playing this game. But if sexual assault is going to be part of that content, maybe not make it interactive. That's what people dislike more than anything else, I promise.

There is never an excuse for censorship, free expression is nearly dead as it is, everything is required to be politically correct. Any of you folks have a problem with this, let me give you a suggestion....DON'T PLAY IT. Afraid your kid will see it? BE A PARENT.

Why can't it be that simple? If ya don't like something, don't look at it, play it, or otherwise associate with it. No one has the right NOT to be offended.

Censor the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Censor Schindler's List. Some stories just are not as impacting or emotive if you tidy up the most unpleasant aspects of them.

Now that said, it could very well be that in the final game this is unnecessary and tasteless, despite what the devs are saying. But until such time as you can prove that, how about not jumping to be offended.

I'm usually against censorship, but I feel that this should be removed or heavily altered. I'm not sure that the Hotline Miami storyline is so deep as one as in a book, to have a necessity for going so far to explain something... and as other mentioned, this kind of violence is more frequent in real life and can affect in VERY bad ways the players.

So be sensible, and use your creativity to get around this.

just watched it and it seemed kind of distasteful but as he said you need to play the whole thing to understand

Idk, i know this may seem unkind, but it's not meant to be; don't censor stuff like that. The first one was brutally violent. It didn't shy away from that. I know that some people have been hurt by sexual assault. I've had friends sexually assaulted. I may not even enjoy the scene if it popped up in the game. But do we enjoy sexual assault in other forms of media? No. It's there to add to the poignancy of the show, or in this case, the game.

I think in a way, that scene of sexual assault may make you question yourself while playing the game, sorta like spec ops did when it made you feel like a horrible person for playing it xD.

I guess what i'm saying is that having something bother you in a game or other forms of entertainment isn't necessarily bad, or something we have to censor. I mean, would you rather it didn't bug you and you became desensitized to it?

To be honest, I didn't notice it.

It's only a video game...

Isn't this game rated M?

Because walking into an office building and brutally murdering every single person inside with your bare hands doesn't make anyone bat an eye.

Screw our society and anyone who thinks a scene of sexual assault is worse somehow.

Granted, it is rather difficult to skirt this line without being accused of hypocrisy. Saying one form of violence, i.e. shooting someone dead, while another, i.e. sexual assault, is acceptable is going to be a tough one. As a society, we are somewhat de-sensitized to someone being shot to death or otherwise. The other...well, that one is not so acceptable. It makes people uncomfortable, they don't want to talk about it, etc. Others perhaps not so much.

For me, personally, I don't play a lot of shooters. And the ones I have played are not based off reality like Call of Duty or that type. N64 Metroid for me. When I have played the other type of FPS, I'm ok with the gun violence for the sole reason that I know what I am seeing is not real. I'm not really killing that soldier I just shot in the game. In fact, if I press the reset button, that same soldier will be there to be shot again. Never would I want to pick up an assault rifle and shoot a real combatant dead. Killing is wrong.

I also know that I would not want to play a game where the character I am portraying is sexually assaulting someone. Nor would I want to see a scene depicting someone else doing it. The developer said " We didn't add the scene just to be controversial. There is a meaning to these two characters. There's a lot more to them than just this scene." Almost as if the scene is supposed to be a way to connect the characters. There are other ways to do that in any story. And even hinting that a character was sexually assaulted is UNNECESSAY. There is no need to go there.

The developer also mentions pushing the envelope. "They've done the violence. Now do sexual assault." No, no, and no. If the feedback from players saying it hurt them to see this type of scene in the game, then you should strongly reconsider why you are creating the scene in the first place in the manner you have. There is always another way. "Pushing the envelope" is just sort of a cop out.

This does not sound like a game I would want to purchase. But that is just me.

So brutally murdering a bunch of people is OK, but sexual assault is going too far?

What about the part in the original game where you killed a bunch of cops? Or all of the unarmed people you killed? Where was the outrage over that?

Always supporter of free speech inside art, even when it hurts. But I would not put in a demo something that without it's context becomes directly wrong.

Is like puting a video of a guy assaulting somebody in the street and kicking him in the head; It is wrong. Now put the context that the guy getting his ass haded actually murdered the agressonr's wife and he attacks him in a moment of rage. Does it make it better? nope! but it gives it context and some sense.

Bottonline. If they had kept this outside the demo there would have no problems at all.

(Hell, "Dragon Age Origins" has an off-screen rape in the city elf storyline and nobody ever mentioned it)

The first was great! PLEASE don't censor this!

Where did my other post go....Oh well continue to attack the imaginary problem folks. SAVE THE PIXELS!!!

The first game had a woman that had been sexually assaulted. Jacket rescued her from the nightclub, it didn't show the rape, but it did add to the story I feel.

Not seeing why this a big deal. There are depictions (implied or shown) of men and women being sexually assaulted in movies, T.V. shows and books. Now I ask, why is it a big deal because a scene of sexual assault (implied or shown) a problem for a video game exploring darker and mature themes?

Is it an issue of morals? Mass murdering is a big thing in video games. You have the hero and his allies going around killing scores of bad guys. Were it not for their label as heroes and the label of the victims as bad guys, the heroes would be mass murderers. But I guess the question is this: Is it morally justifiable to kill those who are evil and have the intent to kill you? Do these people have it coming to them because they are a part of some nefarious organization or should they be put on trail to atone for the crimes? It seems like the general consensus is to not bat an eyelash at the killings. Killing innocents is most certainly unacceptable in video games. No dispute there. Remember No Russian from MW2? Yeah.

Now on to rape or sexual assault in a work of fiction. Usually the victim is some innocent unsuspecting individual. It's usually a female. You don't see much males getting raped unless its in a prison. I assume the woman is about to be raped in HM2 is some innocent unsuspecting victim. Once again I ask, if it is depicted in other forms of media, why is it a problem for video games?

Now what if this rape victim was one of the bad guys. You know, the type that are the cannon fodder for heroes in any video game genre that involves killing. In other words, this rape victim is evil. Would that make the depiction of rape scene in HM2 acceptable? Furthermore, If they don't deserve to get raped, why to do they deserve to get gunned down, sliced up, obliterated, or [insert gruesome form of killing here]?

As a closing remark: Heroes don't rape their victims. That's terrible. They kill them. That's much better. Wait...what?

TL DR version: Two questions are being asked: Why is the depiction of sexual assault unacceptable in video games when it is shown in other forms of media? Also, if the rape victim is a evil (regardless of gender), would it become acceptable? If the answer is no, why would killing them be better?

yeah, lets start a pointless petition to remove the scene from the game, how about that?! are people really that bored?