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In Spider-Man 2, Spider-Cop Is A Big Reason Why Peter Parker Must Step Aside

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Insomniac Games didn't just take the note about Spider-Cop being antithetical to Spider-Man, they made it a major part of Peter Parker's character development.

There's a joke in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 that, if you're at all tied into discussions about Insomniac's Spider-Man games, feels pointed. It comes up during side-plot moments with Wraith, a vigilante who wants Peter Parker's Spider-Man to help her put an end to a fire-obsessed killer cult. When Spider-Man asks Wraith if she has any tattoos, she quips, "Just the one of Spider-Cop's gravestone."

It's a joke that requires some familiarity with the first Marvel's Spider-Man. The 2018 game saw Peter constantly working with New York Police Department captain Yuri Watanabe--the character who, after the events of the first game and its DLC, becomes Wraith. When they worked together, Peter often jokingly pretended to be a hardboiled, Dirty Harry-like detective character he called Spider-Cop, much to Yuri's annoyance. So on the surface, the "Spider-Cop's gravestone" gag is a callback to their previous close relationship and a dunk on Peter's dorky sense of humor, while also highlighting the dark turn Yuri has taken since.

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But the death of Spider-Cop also references a larger discussion surrounding the first Spider-Man, and it's a microcosm of character elements at work in Spider-Man 2. In the first game, Insomniac "turned Spider-Man into a damn cop," as Deadspin's Tom Ley put it. But in the sequel, the developer turned that criticism into character development that's an essential part of the story. And, indirectly, it's also one of the main reasons that Peter Parker chooses to step away from his superhero role and let Miles Morales take over.

Marvel's Spider-Man saw Peter working with the NYPD a lot, something that rubbed many players the wrong way. After all, a big part of the character's deal is the "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man," the conception of a superhero with close ties to his community. Meanwhile, the NYPD's history of dealing with that community is, uh, not great, to put it very mildly. Spidey helped the police take on organized crime and break up muggings, but he also assisted in repairing surveillance towers, which echoed actual controversial surveillance technology used by the NYPD. These side quests left an uncomfortable and lingering feeling that Spidey works too closely and uncritically with the police, and had a seemingly pro-cop stance at a time when, in the real world, major protests focused on police brutality and calls for reform were taking place.

Things changed significantly with the Spider-Man games going forward. The Spider-Man: Miles Morales spinoff includes a Black Lives Matter tribute while also almost removing cops altogether--and, as Eliana Dockterman notes in an article for Time, side-steps a lot of the larger discussion in doing so. There are also fewer cops around in Spider-Man 2, with Peter and Miles relying on their own community-focused, Citizen-like app where people can request help from the Spider-Men directly, both for major developments like crimes and disasters, and minor acts of service such as assisting with a school project.

In an early mission in which you expand the reach of the app, Insomniac draws a clear line separating it from the surveillance criticisms. When Peter sees that Miles' friend Ganke wants to use drones as part of the project, he says, "We don't spy on people." The scene makes clear that the Spider-Men use a much more privacy friendly system to find out where they're needed.

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Instead of focusing on helping out police, as Chris Plante at Polygon notes, here, Spider-Man is a firefighter. When you come across the fire cultists Yuri is chasing, putting out the flames of their arson is as important an objective as beating them up--which is the main thrust of the game.

Wraith's joke is true: Spider-Cop is dead in Spider-Man 2. Or at least, that's how things first appear.

While the NYPD plays a much more subdued role in Spider-Man 2, ideas about the effectiveness of policing and incarceration are still central to the story. Even if he's never mentioned, Spider-Cop lives on in Peter Parker and a big part of Peter's character development centers on dealing with him.

(Warning: Spoilers for the plot of Marvel's Spider-Man 2 beyond this point.)

The main plot thread of Spider-Man 2 focuses on how Peter Parker gets ahold of a new spider-suit that gives him incredible power, but turns out to be a living alien creature that bonds with him and affects his mind. The Black Suit story is well-trodden ground for Spider-Man media--Peter gets addicted to the power the alien symbiote affords him, but it reveals and amplifies the darker elements of his personality. The symbiote usually goes on to become the villain (and anti-hero) Venom, but in Spider-Man 2, part of the symbiote remains inside Peter, threatening to corrupt him.

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To save Peter from the symbiote, Miles Morales teams up with Martin Li, aka Mister Negative, a major antagonist from the first game. Miles and Li have a history--when Li bombed a political rally in a bid to take revenge on Norman Osborn, he killed Miles's father, a police officer. Miles spends much of the game struggling with rage and a desire for vengeance against Li, but in the end, they work together, using Li's powers to delve into Peter's mind and destroy the symbiote within him.

It's during that foray into Peter's subconscious that we get some quick but essential character moments. The landscape plays out like a dream, with strange, disjointed locations through which the characters must pass. The darkest place in Peter's mind is represented by The Raft, a prison for supervillains populated by all the people Spider-Man has helped lock up. Li mentions that it makes sense that Spider-Man would spend a lot of time thinking about the prison, given how many people he has personally put there.

"He's protecting New York," Miles says in Peter's defense.

"Maybe not every problem can be solved with a cell," Li replies, a sentiment with which Miles agrees.

Soon after, the pair are attacked by a seemingly endless horde of enemies--projections of escaped criminals. "Everyone he puts away, they keep coming back," Miles says during the fight, with Li responding that it must be a source of endless frustration as the criminals Peter defeats break free to cause more pain, despite his best efforts.

The battle ends, finally, when the symbiote still inside Peter's mind kills all the criminals. As Miles and Li continue, they walk down a hallway in which Peter's many nemeses have each been cocooned in the oily black tendrils of the symbiote and killed. Even a representation of Li is among the dead littering Peter's mind.

"It killed them all," says Miles.

"The problem's solved," Li responds.

"That's not what Pete thinks," Miles tells him.

"No, but it might be how he feels," Li says.

Later, by working together to save Peter, Miles and Li come to an understanding. While Miles tells Li that he can't forgive him, he does give Li the opportunity to pursue his own redemption. After Peter is saved, Li turns himself back into the police, telling the Spideys that he intends to try to set right his past actions.

"Reforming your greatest enemy," Peter says to Miles as Li walks away. "Can't say I've ever done that."

Then, thinking about the situation and this outcome even more, Peter continues, "Why would this city need me when it has you?"

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Not every problem can be solved with a cell, but that's often the only solution a game like this affords the hero and the player. Insomniac spends much of Spider-Man 2 dealing with this fact and subverting it. That line of thinking starts with the opening battle against the rampaging villain Flint Marko, otherwise known as Sandman, in which the two Spider-Men team up to take Marko down. But it's only after Marko has been thrown behind bars that the Spideys discover the rampage was the result of Marko coming under attack by the game's major antagonist, Kraven, and trying to defend himself and protect his daughter. Peter and Miles contemplate helping Marko in the end as they work to come to terms with the fact that they fought Marko rather than try to help him.

Peter and Miles have separate side missions that focus on particular villains, and all of them continue to play with the themes of incarceration, recidivism, and redemption. Peter's story with Wraith sees Yuri becoming an angry, Batman-like vigilante, willing to kill members of the cult she's chasing if she deems it necessary. Yuri's willingness to take on an extrajudicial authority over life and death is directly in line with debates and protests over how police exercise their power. It's all a grim reflection of the person Peter expressly does not want to be, and yet is in danger of becoming under the right circumstances.

Meanwhile, Miles' specific missions focus on former villains and go even further in teaching him lessons about how he judges people. One deals with Quentin Beck, formerly the illusionist villain Mysterio, who is trying to launch a new entertainment business. His venues keep trapping people inside them, forcing Miles to fight through computer simulations to save the civilians, and each makes it seem as though Beck is up to something dastardly. In the end, it's a frame job by Beck's business partners, though Beck comes dangerously close to taking the fall for the scheme. The entire ordeal ends with Beck just looking tired. The story sheds some light, in a heightened way, on what incarcerated people really go through after their release--they often struggle to put their lives back together and people regularly take advantage of them.

Miles also has a story centering on his uncle, Aaron Davis, formerly the Prowler in Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales. As Miles goes around the city recovering Prowler tech from Aaron's stashes, he learns more about the relationship between his uncle and father. As the mission concludes, Miles briefly believes Aaron is falling back into his criminal past and stealing things from Miles' mother's apartment that belonged to his father. It turns out that Aaron, too, is trying to make amends and move on with his life. The story brings Miles to a lesson about examining his assumptions.

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Second chances have always been essential to the Spider-Man story, but Spider-Man 2 looks at what is required to even be allowed a second chance. It explores the idea that Spider-Cop lives in Peter Parker's head--and maybe, by extension, in the heads of the developers. The game literally ventures into Peter's mind and finds incarceration and execution in its darkest corners. We're watching Spider-Man 2 grapple with Peter's internalized beliefs and assumptions as he struggles to be the hero he wants to be, and his experience with the Venom symbiote teaches Peter that he has work to do on himself. It's not hard to project Peter learning a lesson about his own biases onto the developers at Insomniac, working through them in making a game about it.

Insomniac has said that Miles Morales will be the main hero going forward in its series, with Peter Parker stepping back. Spider-Man 2 uses its story to show us why that's necessary. Yes, Peter struggles to balance having a life with being a hero, but that's only a piece of a larger issue. The story of Peter Parker in Spider-Man 2 is about coming to terms with the idea that he's not the best man for this job anymore because of the differences between how he sees the world and how Miles does.

Despite what Wraith says, it's only at the end of Spider-Man 2 that Spider-Cop is truly dead. Free of his influence, it'll be interesting to see what kind of Spider-Man stories Insomniac tells in the future.

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Spidey shouldn't be pro-cop, actual fans of the comics know that despite all the fascist-leaning losers in these comments acting as if they ever read these comics. But he was never anti-cop either, just at odds with them and unfairly attacked by them and reactionaries like J.J.J. that demonized do-gooders like him. Also Peter believes in reform, a core part of his character is believing people can change.

But they got his relationship with cops wrong in that first game for sure. But saying that is why Peter should stand down is stupid and Peter would never take a break, that misses the point of his character and that whole power and responsibility thing.

And the people claiming it's just a comic book story and shouldn't reflect the real world obviously don't get why these comics were so good and so successful or anything about Stan lee and his writing. Go read some of his soap box's that were published in almost every comic back int he day. You might get upset that comics went "woke" in the 60's, or that Marvel comics and especially Spidey comics have always been "woke".

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@parabolee: and yet the reality is that the medium is dying a slow agonizing death...when you look at how many comic book shops closed last year alone and how manga is increasingly eclipsing DC and Marvel combined, it tells the tale of modern comics being out of touch and not delivering the experience that modern readers are looking for (all while back issues are flying off of shelves).

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@sneakywolfny: Nah...more like just an angry gamergater-type canard fed by the wishcasting that there will be overt evidence that "wokeness" is killing the industry. There were some closures of some famous old stores, but plenty are opening as well.

"Seven Comics Stores Close, Ten Comic Stores Open, One Re-Opens"

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/seven-comics-stores-close-ten-comic-stores-open-one-re-opens/

To be fair though, the COVID pandemic did create a real problem for many of them for a couple years. That seems to be correcting itself though.

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@esqueejy: I mean, in all fairness, the manga thing is probably the more alarming of the two. Businesses start and end (and none last forever). But the cultural shift and interest seems to overwhelmingly be heading eastward - especially with younger audiences

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@sneakywolfny: What's alarming about it? Every comic book store I've ever been to seems to have a section dedicated to that material and that helps keep the business going for all of the material. People shifting to preferring Glade instead of Febreeze for a bit ain't no thing.

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@esqueejy: ...the rising tide raising all ships thing doesn't hold up for manga and western comics the way that it does with DC in relation to Marvel due to how vastly different the products are right down to narrative structure...but I guess time will tell.

however microcosmic and representative this is, middle schoolers in NY seem to be of a pretty widely shared sentiment that Marvel and DC are "corny" and would prefer to read/watch Naruto, Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, etc. Based on what I've heard, it seems as though an opportunity was lost to capture the next generation of enthusiasts/readers...but I can only go by the NY kids in this age group I've encountered.

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@sneakywolfny: The substance of the products has nothing to do with whether people buying them, whether they favor one or the other or not, helps keeps the stores open.

I don't think it's a matter of failing to capture them though. They are most certainly consuming Marvel and DC. It's just that the oversaturation of movie, TV and gaming media for those products is making the print version less desirable. Sure, the manga/anime stuff all has its own movie, TV and gaming media, but nothing like what Marvel, and to a lesser extent DC, are churning out....which I would think we can agree is actually doing themselves a disservice, diluting the brands and products and creating a sense of fatigue in the target audience.

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@parabolee: you don't even know what " woke" means in regards to entertainment.

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@silentchief: Doesn't matter to them. The cult of anti-wokeness is a bubble in which they define everything for themselves and manufacture their own comforting alternate reality thru orthodoxy. Heck...FL is even banning DICTIONARIES at this point (yes, look it up).

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@silentchief: Doesn't matter to them. The cult of anti-wokeness is a bubble in which they define everything for themselves and manufacture their own comforting alternate reality thru orthodoxy. Heck...FL is even banning DICTIONARIES at this point (yes, look it up).

You are calling " anti wokeness" a cult. The projection coming from you is mind boggling. Progressives have run multi billion dollar franchises into the ground and they are completely oblivious to the reason why as they surround themselves in echo chambers. As far as banning dictionaries could it be because they " changed the defenition of gender" to made up bull shit that Progressives came up with 4 years ago?

" woke" in terms of entertainment means" to put progressives messaging and ideas at the forefront of the experience at the expense of everything else."

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@silentchief: It is a cult. Calling it out for its cultishness is not a denial that there are people who take being woke too far and also behave in a cultish manner (see horseshoe theory). Both can certainly be true simultaneously. That I spoke of one does not inherently or automatically mean I consider the opposite to be true of the other.

But your attempt to redefine woke to fit YOUR anti-woke narrative is just nonsense and proved my point. "Woke" has a definition and meaning. Your use of it with sneering disdain in an attempt to turn it into an epithet that it is not, just like the right has worked very hard to use "liberal" and "leftist" with sneering disdain in order to try to hijack their meaning to likewise turn them into insults, does not work the language alchemy you think it does.

And no, not really...Budweiser/AB is fine, as are Target and Disney and so many others. One-off failures (like the god awful The Marvels, which was bad because it was bad, not because it featured a mainly female starring cast) or temporary dips in stock value caused by social media tanties are not evidence of these corporations being run into the ground.

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@esqueejy: No I'm just telling you exactly what it means when people are referring to it in entertainment. If you want to continue to be ignorant that's on you. The original defenition of " woke" was used by leftist to praise those who recognized social injustice and racial inequality. As cringe inducing as that term is the right hijacked it to mock them to criticize the very content that panders to them. This isn't rocket science it just takes a small amount of social awareness and removing yourself from an echo chamber.

And yes really. This shows your lack of ability to understand reality. AB still hasn't recovered fully and went on a full apology tour firing their marketing director and going out of their way to win back their core audience. Disney on the other hand has doubled down. So what has that done for them? They lost their top spot at the box office for the first time in nearly a decade, they have laid off 7000 employees , had to fire 20% of Pixar staff and most importantly have lost 123 billion dollars in stock value over the past 3 years. If that's your defenition of " doing fine" I'd tell you your basic understanding of business is abysmal. Again continue to ignore reality while everyone else calls out the failures with 100% accuracy. "The Marvels" failed because it was girl power cringe created by a diversity hire director for an audience that doesn't care for the product. It's simple really and the fact is it's the biggest failure in MCU history and everyone but woke cultist saw it coming.

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@silentchief: And your belief that the right is permitted to "hijack" defined terminology to redefine in ways they consider politically convenient is where you go wrong.

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@esqueejy: there are elements of repackaged Maoist Marxism with an identity hierarchy replacing the traditional classist one under the claim of progress depending on how extreme it goes...

by way of state examples and in no way a pun on your use of the word orthodoxy, in NY it hasn't been uncommon lately to see people of certain religious backgrounds threatened and stalked at their places of work and at times attacked based on what they were born as with rhetoric around them being oppressors or part of a "cabal" all while using terms like "anti-colonial", "oppression" and "racism".

The door on extremist ideology swings both ways

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@sneakywolfny: Nope. But thanks for the Faux News MAGAt kkkult talking point regurgitation.

That being said, yes, the horseshoe theory of the political spectrum does have merit.

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@esqueejy: just because you say it isn't true as loudly as possible while attaching names to it doesn't make it not true. There most definitely are elements of Marxism present in progressive ideology - not all - but it has taken root. So much so certain people within the education system that espouse said ideology are self-proclaimed Marxists that actively denounce capitalism...

In one example, just last year in NY we had a self-proclaimed Black Marxist teacher at Hunter College that threatened a reporter with a machete seeking an interview as to why she had physically aggressed students hosting a pro-life table on campus...free speech and all that - regardless of whether you agree or not.

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@sneakywolfny: You are deliberately conflating the fact that actual Marxists happen to exist, sprinkled everywhere, in the academic community and all other industries, with the idea that "wokeness" caused it. It's a logical fallacy, but a very convenient one for right wing propagandists seeking to demagogue liberalism and to generate cultural resentment and moral panic in the target audience.

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@esqueejy: no one is "deliberately conflating" anything and I never said that Marxism was a result of "wokeness". If anything, certain aspects of "wokeness" are a result of Marxism and demagogues itself via it's commissars of what is currently deemed allowable, accepted and progressive rhetoric...

...to my earlier point, progressive and protected speech in NYC periodically speaks out against and can call for violence against people of a certain religious group based on their (attempted) ascribed status on the hierarchy of intersectionality - which is directly derivative of Marx's class theory...like it or not

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@sneakywolfny: You may desperately want to equate "wokeness" with the most extreme examples you can find...because that's precisely what the right wing propaganda machine does in order to demagogue it...but they ain't it. And don't fall for the classic propaganda tactic of frequently highlighting the infrequent and cherry-picking the outliers for repetition in order to make it seem more frequent and more representative of liberals/progressives/the left as a whole. And no, idiots who are the most vocal, like, say, Nina Turner, are not our "commissars". Most liberals roll their eyes at those people and would rather they stop going too far and thereby damaging progress. This is in stark contrast to the sh-t we're seeing with MAGAt KKKult, who just tossed out a Speaker and now want to toss out his replacement because they're not getting the extremist BS they're demanding, like a government shutdown and draconian deportation policies...banning books...EVEN DICTIONARIES AND ENCYCLOPEDIAS...spending all day on Twitter spewing vitriol and targeting people as a form of stochastic terrorism in order to rile people into doing sh-t like dialing in a bomb threat to the NY Judge and even a bomb threat on the NY school that is temporarily being used for immigrants applying for asylum because of deadly winter storms that are incoming. Sure, you're going to go straight for the knee-jerk "Antifa and BLM" blather that right wing propaganda focuses on as a bothsiderism shield, but that crap isn't even remotely as widespread, constant and unrelenting as the sh-t Mango Messiah's kkkult is engaged in and the FBI has confirmed it. The Great Replacement freakout and "end game" of the Southern Strategy started on November 4, 2008 and we all know why.

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@esqueejy: that was an entertaining emotional bit - however and unfortunately, once a hierarchy of oppression was implemented, this play by play drew from class theory...that is the beginning and end of my argument and in my first comment I even said "based on how extreme it goes"

You and your feelings about right wing extremists on Twitter are your own problem.

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@sneakywolfny: it’s not worth the effort arguing with that one. He is an ideologue and he’s convinced himself it’s a good vs evil battle and he’s on the right side. He’s never been wrong about anything, never even considered it a possibility. I’m sure he’s a blast at parties.

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You really need to learn the difference between the real world and a comic book world. Then proceed to not write pretentious anti cop propaganda.

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@Daian: Nothing propaganda about it. It is a demonstrable, neutral, observable, empirical fact that the NYPD has a long-standing history of problematic and broken relations with the community. The author stating that fact is not biased or pretentious or "anti cop propaganda."

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Saw the headline, expected to read "cops bad amirite?" Knew it.

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@WarGreymon77: Convicted felon Bernie Kerik says hi.

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@esqueejy: So by that logic, the Black guy that robbed the convenience store, armed of course, or dealt drugs, crack of course, means all other Black people participate in such activities.

Or are you applying a double standard to the police over the standard of the citizen? Just trying to figure out the point of your (I'm sure) witty comment.

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@BIG_BOSS_927: I responded to a trite over-simplification with a trite over-simplification and you failed to read the sarcasm?

/golfclaps

The original poster's mischaracterization of the article as "cops bad amirite?" is pathetic. It is an observable fact that the NYPD has poor relations with the community, particularly certain communities and neighborhoods. Kerik and his so-called "leadership"...and the pervasiveness of his mentality among the ranks...is a big contributing factor to that fact's existence.

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No matter how much they try to cute it up and tow the current political lines, there's no consistent way for a game about beating the shit out of people extrajudiciously can also be anti-police.

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"Everyone he puts away, they keep coming back," Miles says during the fight, with Li responding that it must be a source of endless frustration as the criminals Peter defeats break free to cause more pain" "

This sounds like an indictment of the liberal CJ system "reform" taking place in places like NYC where violent offenders are sent right back out into the street instead of being locked up like they should be.

Also, everyone hates cops until something happens to them like they get robbed and or assaulted, then the writers of these kinds of articles would be the first to scream for the police.

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@IcyBlaze_XZ: Sure, if you're wearing those glasses.

More like just an anodyne observation about the frustrations caused by recidivism.

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Its so simple, Peter Parker would never quit, with all that power comes great responsability, simple as that, he will not retire, he is a tool of doing the right thing, that is above him.

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I checked out of this article when it started talking about NYPD's history. I am not one to start blabbing on about things being "too woke", but this is a comic book adaptation. I get that some parts of it are meant to reflect our own reality, but I can do without every single thing being about our own world. At the end of the day, it's still just a Spider-Man story. The NYPD of his world is not the NYPD of our world. Spider-Man has ALWAYS helped the cops, albeit as a vigilante, but he is still a crime fighter. Suddenly trying to say "Well, Spider-Man shouldn't do that because the real world NYPD has a history of abusing their power" is silly and shoe horns in issues that don't need to be there. Just let it be a Spider-Man story in a comic book world.

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@Pierce_Sparrow: "Suddenly trying to say "Well, Spider-Man shouldn't do that because the real world NYPD has a history of abusing their power" is silly"

It's also not what is being said.

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@Pierce_Sparrow: Also, you have to look at real world actions of people who claim ACAB. What happens when their homes get broken into or they have a stalker and so on? They CALL THE COPS.

If ACAB was real, then they would never actually call the cops because that would be just throwing gasoline on the fire, but each and every time a prominent anti-cop person is attacked or threatened, they invariably call the cops.

There are places in the world where people will NEVER call the cops, because they are truly corrupt to the core, but that is not true in the US. There are certainly bad cops, as there are bad people in all walks of life, but they are not the majority, nor even a plurality of cops. Most cops are just trying to do their job and have an honest desire to help people.

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Lost me at Deadspin... but already know this is going to be another whine fest.

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