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Konami Says Last-Minute PS Plus Change Was Sony's Decision

"This decision was made by Sony."

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When the PS Plus games lineup for July 2019 was announced, PES 2019 was listed as one of the free PS4 games that PlayStation Plus members would be able to download throughout the month. That was later changed, however, with Detroit: Become Human replacing the soccer game at the last minute. The news was shared just hours before the month's games were set to go live, but it was accompanied by no real explanation for why an adjustment was changed. Konami responded to questions about the news by stating it was Sony's decision to change the PlayStation Plus lineup.

In a short statement, a Konami spokesperson told GameSpot: "This decision was made by Sony and so please make an inquiry to Sony."

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In its own statement, Sony admitted it had taken the decision itself but declined to elaborate: "We have decided to make a change to the PS Plus games lineup this month, and will be offering Detroit: Become Human Digital Deluxe Edition instead of PES 2019. This was a decision we decided to make as a company, and we apologize for any inconvenience."

European PES brand manager Lennart Bobzien, meanwhile, told GameSpot on the day of the change that it was not planned and had taken Konami by surprise: "I cannot really tell you what happened because I just found out today, in the morning when I opened my laptop. I can't really explain."

PES 2019's successor is on the way later this year. It's officially titled eFootball: PES 2020--see why PES has changed its name here--and will include Manchester United as a licensed team. It won't, however, feature any women's teams.

PES 2020 launches for PS4, Xbox One, and PC on September 10. A demo version, which includes online and offline match types as well as the game's edit mode, will launch on July 30. Stay tuned to GameSpot for a full PES 2020 gameplay preview.

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lolololol women's soccer teams... rofl

Can't... stop... laughing.

Other than the United States' recent infatuation with Women's League Soccer, the rest of the world can give two rat's feces about women's league. There's TONS more money in Men's League, and TONS more international interest.

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@CyberEarth: Very true. I mean, it's fine for women to play footy of course, it's good exercise and a lot of fun, but I literally couldn't have any less interest in either watching them or playing a women's footy game. And it's very poor quality. I'd rather watch / play as my local team and they are in the 7th level of the English football pyramid (ie , 6 levels below the Premiership). It's a better quality of football.

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I already beat Detroit become human so that sucks for me.

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Who cares? Sony are garbage and the game is shite anyway.

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@gamerbum: Lol, put some cream on those cheeks.

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To be fair it's one of the more worthwhile titles ever released through ps plus. Good move from Sony.

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EA

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Yawn, who cares why these days?

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I hope they actually contacted him, and he didn't just open his laptop and see some article announcing it.

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The plot thickens

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I already own Detroit, so this was a bit of a letdown. That being said, I don’t really play soccer games. All the same, it seems shady... like EA might have either whined or made an offer of their own if Sony took it down.

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I can tell you exactly what happened to cause the removal... EA pissed and moaned to Sony about it. They did it back during the original xbox days when Microsoft was making NFL Fever. EA whined and cried and threatened not to release Madden on Xbox anymore unless MS stopped making NFL Fever.

No doubt to me what happened. EA cried again and used sleazy tactics to block competition getting more exposure to those soccer fans who may never had played PES before but would have with it being free.

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@Slyster1181:

Europe is PS4 territory THANKS to FIFA, so maybe. If FIFA happened to be an XBOX exclusive, I could see things changing. but EA has just as much to lose since PS4 is the leading console in sales.

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@Slyster1181: think for half a second here, what would microsoft care if EA didnt sell madden on xbox? they had nfl fever, a better game........none of that happened lol

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@Slyster1181: Do you honestly think EA is gonna threaten Sony when they would have far more to lose with lootbox revenue? I can see them asking Sony but anything beyond that would be unlikely.

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I call bluff. Its Soccer season right now. That would have been huge. Even though I'm a Fifa guy I wouldnt have minded getting my hands on PES. On a side note. If it was sony's decision to take it off the PS+ list then why doesn't Konami just step up for its fans and release it for free digitally on their own?

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Sony did it because people were complaining about the PS Plus games for July. Personally, I was looking to PES 2019, but I’m not complaining for getting Detroit instead.

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Works for me - I don't enjoy football games but have really been enjoying Detroit Becomes Human since downloading it yesterday.

Thanks, Sony!

PS. Just saw Wolfman152's comment and have to agree with some of it - I usually play on XBOX One but the free Detroit download encouraged me to boot up my PS4 for the first time in ages. It'll take more than one excellent free download to make a more permanent switch over, though.

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Absolutely it was a great Decision!! I’m even wondering what’s this article is trying to address.

Believe or not, By Sony making the change to add Detroit Becomes Human a AAA single player campaign game it made me re-activate my PS PLUS subscription which I had not done in over nearly two years because I game mostly on my Xbox X.

These past few weeks Sony has re-assured me they truly care about their gaming audiences and with their directions with next-gen PS5 & Their commitment to HARDCORE GAMERS, and their focus on big budgeted AAA single player campaign games the company have WON me over from Xbox. I plan on switching my main gaming platform from Xbox X to PS5 once it’s available for Pre-order.

Thank You Sony for making this last minute switch on PS PLUS line up & adding Detroit Becomes Human. I’m back as a PS PLUS subscriber because of the change and a PS5 fanboy. Can’t wait to pre-order the system.

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@wolfman152: Honestly, you sound like a shill.

What rational person would be a 'PS5 fanboy' when we know very little about the system and haven't played any of the actual games?

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@50_Ft_Kingie: I'm a PS5 fanboy since they announced b/c with PS4.

Does it mean I'll be pre-ordering one? No. But it does mean I'll be closely following news stories and will make a decision when it comes out (mostly depending on games available - namely exclusives).

Microsoft lost me when they said two-tiered systems and cloud-gaming focus. Sorry, not into that. I can do that on PC, and all of MS's games will be on PC. No reason at all for me to buy their console right now.

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@50_Ft_Kingie: what up Kingie!! Well my friend from the leakages & rumors I seriously believe come next-gen consoles there won’t be any disadvantages in specs and power between PS5 and Scarlet like we see now with X vs Pro. It will be an even playing field!

Next-gen consoles won’t be about power, it will be about who will deliver best content or games. Microsoft E3 2019 was disappointing for me, aside from Halo Infinite and Gears 5 the rest didn’t appeal to me. As an Xbox gamer they didn’t reassured or closed me on great games to come. Instead they focus on streaming, PC, Smartphones, xcloud yatta yatta yatta. Ideas that I don’t care much. Their direction is not one that I agree with.

However, Sony who didn’t participate in this year E3 unexpectedly came out of no where and spoke to Hardcore gamers and I was listening. Sony CEO reassured they’re focus on bigger budget AAA games for PS5 that this current generation PS4 has dominated. They got the hint that AAA games is what sells consoles and not much indie games which I mostly saw in Microsoft E3.

I very much like the direction Sony is going and power & specs between both next-gen consoles being nearly the same won’t matter, it will be about GAMES! and Sony by making last minute changes to their July PS PLUS line up game to add DETROIT BECOMES HUMAN a AAA game tells me their serious on their word. This is my reason why I’m switching. (Game is awesome, been playing since I downloaded)

Sony solidified their commitment to AAA games and Microsoft to me solidified their commitment to PC, Smartphones, xcloud & streaming.

Hey I don’t think it’s not bad move for Microsoft, I guess them being first a PC company giant but it’s not what I wanted to hear as a console gamer. That’s just my opinion my friend!

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@wolfman152: Nice try Sony!

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And what a great decision it was. Thank you SONY, finally I'll play my PS4 again, just because of Detroit Become Human.

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Sony playstation is garbage anyway. Every single one of their exclusives are mediocre overrated one play bore fests.

I’ve got way more hours played on Xbox and Ninty exclusives.

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@gamerbum: You got some Phil Spencer cream on your lips there buddy! Need a napkin?

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@gamerbum: .....What Xbox exclusives???

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@gamerbum: go play bloodborne and eat your words then come back here and lie about hating it

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@gamerbum: Damn, a real example of a person that's so salty because he can't play some of the best games of all time, so much that he comperes them to XBox exclusives! That's just insulting.

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@gamerbum: lol typicall xbot trolling

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@gamerbum: Nice try fanboi.

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Just an opinion little miss pony. No need to get you panties in s bunch.

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@gamerbum: It's the closest you'll ever get to panties...

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@gamerbum: your opinion is shit xbot now go play some crackshit 3

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Konami is garbage anyway, so two birds one stone. After finding out about how they treated and handled Hideo, it's hard to support them. Plus, they're pretty much invisible and dead now that MGS came to a close.

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@Person4: To be fair, Kojima flushes money down the toilet for years on end with little results. I hope we one day get the full story on what happened.

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@Person4: I tried to like mgsv. But every second was boring for me. The only Konami game I liked was tmnt 2

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@spiddyman007: Contra??? Castlevania?!? Gradius? Silent Hill? Skate or Die? Frogger?

If you love Japanese fare, they did Twin Bee and Goemon. You could include Suikoden in that as well.

They also did some pioneering arcade games like Lethal Enforcers, X-Men (had multiple view screens), and Dance Dance Revolution.

Sure, they don't put out much these days, but Konami has tons of great IPs to use if they wanted.

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For me it was a bonus as I'm interested to play Detroit, but it's a shame because if you like football, give PES a go. It's a great game

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Konami has went knuckle deep in the the Chinese mobile market 7-8 yrs ago and had to do a quick 180 as they found that market harder to turn a profit then they imagined. But they have been killing it with PES console titles (once decrying 8th gen gaming was dead and mobile was the future) and switch titles, also esports. So the big decision to only focus on mobile pre-8th gen really slowed the company down but they are now doing really well with the console market.

Should they have kept Hideo Kojima??? Yeah, I think so, the loss of momentum in consoles, bad pr with terrible working conditions actually cost the company money in the long run. They are doing well now, but could have been doing really well 4 yrs ago when there were close to 100million 8th gen consoles. They still have not re-listed back on the exchange and as a company still hate or shun console gaming - wanting to branch out into online gambling and mobile.

The asian developer slump/crash is no more and they are doing very well. I think 9th gen will be ever bigger and better for gamers.

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