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Mass Effect 2's Jack Was Supposed To Be Pansexual, Until Fox News Got In The Way

Conservative backlash against the first Mass Effect game led BioWare to be more cautious about depicting queer relationships in the sequel.

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Mass Effect 2's Jack was originally supposed to be pansexual, but her romance arc was changed after BioWare looked at the media reception to romances in the original game, as reported by The Gamer.

Since Mass Effect 2's release 11 years ago, fans have wondered why Jack was could only be romanced by a male Commander Shepard, since she makes references to being with partners of different genders in some of her voice lines. After the original game's launch in 2007, Fox News held a panel about the game's depictions of sex and sexuality. The panel criticized both Mass Effect 1's sex scenes and the ability to romance Liara T'Soni as either a male or female Shepard.

Talking about the development of Jack's romance in an interview with The Gamer, writer Brian Kindregan said: "She was essentially pansexual for most of the development of that romance." But the Fox News panel created a domino effect that changed things.

"Mass Effect had been pretty heavily and really unfairly criticized in the US by Fox News, which at the time... maybe more people in the world thought that there was a connection between reality and what gets discussed on Fox News," Kindregan said. "The development team of Mass Effect 2 was a pretty progressive, open-minded team, but I think there was a concern at pretty high levels that if [the first] Mass Effect, which only had one gay relationship, Liara - which on paper was technically not a gay relationship because she was from a mono-gendered species - I think there was a concern that if that had drawn fire, that Mass Effect 2 had to be a little bit careful."

Courtenay Taylor, the actress who voiced Jack, also was under the impression that Jack was supposed to be a pansexual character. In an interview with The Gamer, she said: "It’s funny to me because my understanding was always that she was pansexual. So I don’t know if that’s just something I inferred from the character or something that she said that maybe got cut. I was surprised there wasn’t a female romance possible because that was my understanding."

Despite this understanding from both her original writer and actor, Jack was made a heterosexual romance option, and with Liara only appearing in DLC, the only queer romances available were Kelly Chambers, Samara, and Morinth. No queer men were made available at all, and Samara and Morinth aren't actual romance options, as Samara will turn Shepard down and Morinth will literally kill them.

With the Mass Effect: Legendary Collection, some fans are hoping that some of the relationships and characters BioWare dropped the ball on the first time will get a second chance. Mass Effect 2 will be included in this collection, which may be releasing in March. We'll have to wait and see if those hopes come to fruition.

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At this point Gamespot is just clickbaiting us with these hot take articles that have no actual impact on the world of gaming. The entire media is a clown show.

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@Diminished: "The entire media is a clown show."

You are 1,000,000% correct. And we feed it.

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@cj_topspin: Sure but we're handing out red pills left and right to those still thinking this stuff is "important" social commentary. Pretty soon we'll feed them to death and they'll just become mockeries for everyone to point and laugh at.

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@Diminished: And yet this article got 200 replies somehow. I saw it when it had no replies.

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@Barighm said:

@Diminished: And yet this article got 200 replies somehow. I saw it when it had no replies.

You're on the front end of everything! You read a gaming article first! I'm impressed!

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@Barighm: Yeah but look at all of them 200 replies but only 10 likes as of this writing and the majority of the comments are making fun of the article. Ratio'd

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Well... this just started off a posting fight

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@megawavez: Not so much of a fight. Like one or two people supporting the article and the rest are just taking the piss out of the those people and the article.

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Oh, I guess Bioware wasn't really that adamant about their "artistic integrity" after all. What a disingenuous excuse. Must be nice to throw Fox news under the bus after all these years. Just a bit of retroactive virtue-signalling from Bioware here, nothing more.

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@defiler: Game makers have always feared the media, because the media gets them in front of the eyes of politicians who go out of their way to destroy their products. Unfortunately at that time, people still believe Fox News to be more than conspiracy theory, pandering trash; so getting attacked by them probably did force them re-evaluate. Last thing they wanted is some senator talking about how their game(despite its M rating) was warping the minds of American children and having a movement formed against it.

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@defiler: It's always nice to throw Fox News under the bus... but I totally get your point, turns out BIOWARE isn't as stunning and BRAVE as they want us to believe.

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It's easy to identify the commenters who didn't bother to read the article, which clearly states that this happened back in 2007 when Fox News Channel still had some credibility. Before they become full blown "political entertainment", as they call it.

So yes, they very well could have influenced people's decisions about this game.

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Here we go! Not all roses on either side!

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What a fantastic piece of journalism... gamespot is going full buzzfeed

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I'd love to know what the thought process for something like this is, because I feel like there isn't one thing that Fox News can possibly say that will make gamers give a shit about a particular game... I think it would've sold however many copies that it would go on to sell regardless.

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@jinzo9988: You're probably right, but I think gaming was in a much different place even just 10 years ago. It's taken a long time to build enough what clout the hobby has as is. I can imagine a studio that got as much flak from the mild sexiness of the first game might want to avoid explaining advanced concepts of sexuality to parents buying this game for their kids.

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@jinzo9988: Their commentary wasn't aimed at gamers.

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@thecupidstunts: Then why'd they care? People that don't game aren't paying their bills. They're not going to buy the game regardless.

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@jinzo9988: Because sex in videogames was an easy tool to use for pushing political, religious, and moral agendas. It's that simple.

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I am all for taking all romance options out. I never participate even if available because it is silly. And VG makers should not bow to any political party right or left and just make their vision. If you do not like it then do not buy it. Pretty simple actually

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@clawson34: all except the default. Boy girl , mom dad. You cant call that bais because that is natural biology. Imagine taking all breath holding mechanics because some people don't like to or can't breathe threw their nose lol

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@clawson34: "I am all for taking all romance options out."

Yes, who cares about creative liberty to tell a story...

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@blindbsnake: I specifically said that they should make their vision and bow to no one ideology either way. I guess it was just easier to read the first sentence .

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@clawson34: "I guess it was just easier to read the first sentence ."

Are you blaming me for your own statement?

The romance is a structural part of their storytelling. So it makes no sense to say that you are "all for taking all romance options out" and then say "they should make their vision". So, choose a logic...

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@blindbsnake: Since the romances are optional, it's not a structural part of their storytelling, now is it?

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@Thanatos2k: You probably mean the main story... because romance option (while optional) its one featured they really invested and gave attention. Thats what I said " a structural part of their storytelling".

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@blindbsnake:

I, ME personally would be perfectly fine with them removing romance options. That is me though and my personal feelings matter little when a game maker is producing their vision. If I do not want to play games with that then it is my choice which I can choose to exercise.

But also I firmly believe that a company should follow their own vision no matter what I as in ME personally believe because it is their product, their story and their art.

So yes being a person of rational thought I can see it both ways because their are options for all of us. I would never purposely play a Bioware game again for many reasons but if they want you to be able to make out and be a space ho then go for it. My feelings on removing the option from games should not even be taken into account.

If you still do not get it then I do not know what to tell you. My time in America has been certainly entertaining though and thank you all for the laughs.

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@clawson34: Oh... But I understand your comment perfectly. What baffles me the most is that this feature of the game is optional. So, in the end of the day it means more options for everyone, which I believe is the best thing for a game of "choices".

"I would never purposely play a Bioware game again for many reasons..."

Oh, me too... Its just that I would love to have these kind of reasons, easy to dodge... my problems with Bioware is way deeper than that...

"My time in America has been certainly entertaining though and thank you all for the laughs."

You lost me here... But I´m not "American" so...

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@clawson34: Thankfully you have no real power over this choice. I love romance options in games. Adds more depth to the characters. Shepard romancing Liara, Geralt romancing Triss, the Warden romancing Morrigan - all these, and more, add to these characters growth and makes the game even greater because of it. I feel sorry for you that you actively avoid romance archs in games, to give your character more depth than just "kill bad guy".

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@_Shuyin_: When I specifically said I then it was my belief it was my opinion and mine alone. Much like in the very next sentence said the makers of game should make their vision and bow to no one.

And please...feel sorry for me...because I think video game romance love or fucking wise is cringe at worst but generally silly. There are plenty of games that have depth but no romance in them.

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@_Shuyin_: Some people play video games. Some people play interactive movies.

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14 year old boys are idiots. That is clear. The Republican Party in America is magically composed of 14 year old boys.

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This article seems recycled from like 8 years ago. Does anyone still even argue over this kind of nonsense any more? I find that if someone needs to jam a character’s sexual preference in my face, they probably have some other motive behind that character than just pure creativity. Aside from that, what kind of a dejected adult cares about the sexuality of a cartoon?

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@jsprunk: "Does anyone still even argue over this kind of nonsense any more?"

Look no further than the thread we are posting in for your answer to that question.

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@jsprunk: "Aside from that, what kind of a dejected adult cares about the sexuality of a cartoon?"

Oh... You would be surprised...LOL

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Right wingers hate political correctness...........until a right wing news outlet wants to censor something because they think that being gay is "icky".

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@crashchaos: And they get antsy when liberals, leftists, and even those who hate their political god-heroes (Trump) who play their own game in being politically incorrect.

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@crashchaos: Except no one on the right said to censor it. The entire video clip was about informing people about what’s in a game that’s rated as AO and Microsoft being scummy Microsoft, marketing the game to kids.

Nice try though. 😅😂🤣

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@crashchaos: You're absolutely wrong about that. I'm super conservative, and super Christian, and SUPER Hetero (single, ladies, if anyone's interested,) and I hate this Censorship just as I hate ALL Censorship.

Anyone on the "right" who is in favor of Censoring others based on their own beliefs is, to me, just as ignorant as anyone on the "left" who is in favor of Censoring. In that neither side's actual core beliefs are pro-censorship. Liberals are supposed to be about Liberty, which is to say "Do as you want, so long as you are not curtailing someone else's liberty. And Conservatives are supposed to be Conserving something. What's that thing? Why, the values we were founded on... chief among them being the ability to say and do what you want, so long as you are not infringing on someone else's rights.

Sadly, Politics these days has become Gladiatorial Combat, whereas it is supposed to be Gentlemanly Boxing. Conservatives should look at Mass Effect 2 and say "Well, I'm not interested in pansexuality, and so my Shepherd will do THIS," or at least "I choose not to buy this game myself," and leave it at that. Just as Liberals should have looked at Ender's Game and said "It's a fine story, but I disagree with Mr. Card's beliefs," or the equivalent "I choose not to purchase this book myself."

We've lost respect for each other, not as members of a political group, but as Individual Human Beings. And as crappy as Individual Human Beings can be, we are supposed to give each other the benefit of the doubt and only bring about conflict when it is absolutely necessary.

Besides, anyone with any problem with Jack in Mass Effect 2 should be saying "It's terrible that the dialogue option "I care about you, Jack," meant "Let's Have Sex," when I assumed it meant "Listen, Jack, I don't want a quick tumble, I want to be your friend and help you get through all your trauma," and then my Good Christian Man Shepherd had to replay TWO HOURS because I hadn't saved, and then even after I turned Jack down, there was no real resolution to her storyline until that one mission in Mass Effect 3.

It seems I've written a novel again. Oh well.

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@bluestorm83: so much this. literally a bunch of wasted time and energy to argue about something that's completely optional. its not like the game is like "I'm commander shephard, i'm hear to doink people in order to save the galaxy"

if ya don't like it dont do it dang it lol

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@stiefjac: Exactly! In ME1, I banged Ashley because it was an achievement... and then saved her, instead of Kaiden, because I felt obligated to. Then I played the game again, this time did NOT sleep with her, and saved Kaiden, because, well, Ashley's a Soldier, and I feel like she'd understand the hard choice better. Kaiden never asked for the Biotics and the pain and the tumors and whatever else comes with being a Space Science Wizard. But he made the best of the crap hand he was dealt, and I can admire and empathize with that.

And canonically, I felt that this worked better. I genuinely felt SO bad in ME3, when I also turned Kaiden down. He'd been my best bro in ME1 and ME3, but my Shep just wasn't into dudes. I was sad for him. But, just like in reality, sometimes when you're not looking for what someone else is looking for, you've got to break someone's heart.

But the point stands. There may be a game where you nail chicks and dudes to save the galaxy. In fact, since the Internet Exists, I am SURE that game exists, probably dozens of them. But Mass Effect wasn't that game. It was the game where you can play a character 90% exactly the way that you, or an Idealized You, would act in both real life and Sci-Fi situations.

So the guy who wants to be a girl and have sex with the other girl who can levitate things and is covered in tattoos and wears nothing but suspenders? He can do that. Or at least if that was the writers' original intent they SHOULD HAVE been able to do that. But the guy who wants to still be a guy, and wants to help that suspender-psychic to come to terms with the way that she's built this Invincible, Uncaring persona because she can't yet deal with her emotional turmoil, he can do that too.

Man, I SO miss the incredible quality of Mass Effect's storytelling before they took a big Tri-Colored Dump on the universe in that ending. Maybe the new ME will be good enough to make me break my boycott and give it a try.

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@bluestorm83: I like your view... But I can't surpass this part: "super Christian" and "my Good Christian Man Shepherd"...

I pity for what your super Good Christian Man Shepherd will become... in ME3...

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@blindbsnake: He died. He always tried to do the right thing for the most people, and when faced with Space Robot Hitler Satan, and three choices that all amounted to "Space Robot Hitler Satan is right in this one of three ways," I hated every single ending, until they patched it with the "Refuse" ending, and then I refused to acquiesce to Starboy's flawed crappy "VCR that Flashes '12:00' every 100,000 years and kills everyone," logic pattern and Shepherd died and everyone else died too.

My own Head Canon is that my Shepherd got on a Comm to Joker, and had him crash the Normandy right into the Starboy's center point at Mass Effect enabled speeds, causing the kind of kinetic force impact that would have taken him out, killing everyone on the ship, and probably the Citadel, and maybe even Earth nearby, and the entire Sol system, who can say, but would have resulted in the Reapers being freed from Starboy's control and influence. At which point, I'm sure many of them, maddened by their origins and untold aeons of forced genocide, would lash out at everything around them, bringing about a kind of war that would end a LOT of sentient life in the galaxy... but at the very least ensuring a 100% end of the cycles, and a new potential for freedom and peace for everyone who survives.

100% not a real ending, sure, but still 100% better than the debacle that Bioware gave me, that was such a complete betrayal of the game's overriding themes of "Do your best, stand with your friends, don't let overwhelming odds stop you from being the hero that people need, and we can all overcome, together, despite our differences," that I literally wanted to vomit for days.

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@bluestorm83: "I hated every single ending, until they patched it with the "Refuse" ending"

Ok... My respect for you went 1000% up... And now you "super Christian" and "my Good Christian Man Shepherd" starts to make sense in my mind.

Yet, lets not forget that the refusal ending is also a middle finger for ME1 and ME2 fans... Supermac hates the honorable Shepard...

"that was such a complete betrayal of the game's overriding themes"

My friend... My respect for you is great. I truly love to see people that understand what that ending means. The betrayal of all values of the Paragon (and even renegade) Shepard. A betrayal for ME1 and ME2 main themes. A betrayal to all the goodness and honor in ME universe.

Good games my friend...

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@blindbsnake: Yep. Every time I saw my brother and cousins, I'd try and encourage them to play Mass Effect, for the story. I ALMOST succeeded with my brother. He was like "Hey, what was that Sci-Fi RPG you had me start that time, but then I stopped? I'm in the mood for a great Sci-Fi RPG." By that time, ME3 had been out for about half a year. I said "Mass Effect, but don't bother. The ending to the last game is so bad that it invalidates everything that comes before it."

The worst part? People who didn't understand why we were so upset. Can't tell you how many times people said to me "You just want a fairytale ending where everyone lives!" No, not at all. My biggest Hero's greatest victory was the time he got the crap kicked out of him by centurions, was falsely condemned, and then was nailed to a cross until he died, at which point he was stabbed with a spear, just for good measure. I'm so completely and totally onboard with a story where the Good Guys lose everything for the greater cause. What I hate is a story where the Good Guys lose not only the war but their ideology, and then where the writers forget that Exploding Mass Relays take out entire star systems, and when the Normandy MIRACULOUSLY crashes on some Eden World, and everyone seems fine... that Quarrians and Krogan are Dextro-Amino based life forms, whereas everyone else is Levo-Amino based, meaning that in a best case scenario, two of my friends are either going to starve to death or die HORRIBLY when they try to eat Levo-Amino based food and it destroys their organs. WHOOPS!

Sigh. It's like the official endings were badly written fan fiction by someone who had only the most cursory information on the setting.

Well, here's hoping that the new ME reveals that they learned how stupid they were, that the Indoctrination Theory was real, and we can salvage that wonderful, involved, realized world.

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@bluestorm83: "You just want a fairytale ending where everyone lives!"

I never cared about a happy ending, I just wanted an honorable ending. My Shepard was never a mass murderer, a rapist or a dictator...

"the Good Guys lose everything for the greater cause."

Yes. Most people want to do some crime for the "greater cause", the easy route. To lose everything for the greater cause is the way to go. A hero path. Sadly, many people believe that "the greater good" is somehow a free path to do evil actions.

"What I hate is a story where the Good Guys lose not only the war but their ideology..."

Damn... This is like to hear myself talking... Very nice to see someone who understand the full price of ME3.

"It's like the official endings were badly written fan fiction by someone who had only the most cursory information on the setting."

Nah... The endings is a result of a nihilistic view about reality. Two morons who thought that the violation of organic condition is somehow a good thing. They wanted an artistic ending, and they left us with three evil crimes.

The funny thing is that what Shepard says in the "refusal" ending truly reflects what my ME1 and ME2 would have said.

But the endings are just a part of the narrative disaster. ME3 destroyed ME1 main plot (Sovereign suicidal attack, and the major strategy of the reapers) and the most stupid deus ex device I ever saw. (A weapon that no one knows what it is, what it does, if works or even if the schematics are complete becomes the only war strategy).(but it gets worse, this weapon needs to fit in an unknown device... guess logic from an engineering perspective is out of the equation)

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@blindbsnake: Ugh, that's right, I even forgot about the origins of the Crucible.

"We found some information that ancient civilizations all tried to build this thing. Nobody knows what it is, or what it does, or who came up with it, or anything at all about it. But we DO know that all previous Galactic Civilizations put all their resources into building it. And then they all died."

"Okay. You know what this thing sounds like to me? It sounds like a FANTASTIC IDEA!!!!"

Sigh.

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@bluestorm83: I respect your response. :)

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