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Microsoft's Proposed Strategy To "Spend Sony Out Of Business" Revealed In 2019 Internal Email

Head of Xbox Game Studios Matt Booty wrote the company needed to "avoid a situation where Tencent, Google, Amazon, or even Sony have become the next Disney of games."

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As part of the ongoing trial between the Federal Trade Commission and Microsoft, an internal email from Xbox Game Studios chief Matt Booty encouraging Microsoft CFO Tim Stuart to "spend Sony out of business" has been made public. The email, which was sent in December 2019, explains Microsoft's aggressive acquisition plans, which almost resulted in the company purchasing Sega, Niantic, and Bungie.

In the email, first shared by The Verge, Booty writes, "We (Microsoft) are in a very unique position to go spend Sony out of business. If we think that video game content matters in 10 years, we might look back and say, 'Totally would have been worth it to lose $2B or $3B in 2020 to avoid a situation where Tencent, Google, Amazon, or even Sony have become the Disney of games and own most of the valuable content.""

Booty went on to explain how it is "practically impossible" for a company to start a new streaming service due to Disney's competitive holdings, before drawing a comparison between video streaming services and the future of the games industry:

"In games, Google is three to four years away from being able to have a studio up and running. Amazon has shown no ability to execute on game content. Content is the one moat that we have, in terms of a catalog that runs on current devices and capability to create new. Sony is really the only other player who could compete with Game Pass and we have a two year and 10 million subs lead."

In the years since the email was sent, both Sony and Microsoft have increased their portfolios through major studio acquisitions. In 2021, Sony purchased Returnal-developer Housemarque and noted remake developer Bluepoint Games, followed by Destiny-developer Bungie in 2022. In the same time frame, Microsoft has acquired Bethesda, Arkane, and Tango Gameworks parent-studio ZeniMax Media, as well as initiated the process of purchasing Activision Blizzard, the latter of which being responsible for the company's ongoing trial against the FTC.

In addition to Booty's email, several other pieces of information regarding Microsoft's business and strategies have been revealed throughout the trial, such as Xbox explaining Starfield was planned for PS5 prior to Microsoft acquiring ZeniMax, and Microsoft claiming to have "lost the console war."

Update: Following publication, a Microsoft spokesperson reached out to GameSpot with this statement: “This email is three and a half years old and predates the announcement of our acquisition by 25 months. It refers to industry trends we never pursued and is unrelated to the acquisition.”

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So essentially, they chose not to invest in making good games but rather force the competition out.

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Microsoft has always been an evil company, but there are no good billionaires. None of them cares one bit about any of us, except for our labor and all the cents they can squeeze out of us to make their next billion.

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"unrelated to the acquisition"
Yeah, we talked about spending Sony out of the market, and now that we're trying to do just that, it's unrelated!

Microsoft don't look like they manage the studios they acquire very well to be honest. I'm not particularly looking forward to Starfield

I'm at the stage now where there's more games released than I realistically can play in my free time, so I'll continue committing to having a playstation and gaming PC, anything that falls on a system outside of that, I'll happily forego.

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Wondered when this would be reported on.

There is the argument that yes this is business, and that is what it's all about.

But on the other, its an absolutely monsterous mindset from a company that time and time again has shown that it is clearly not to be trusted. Competition in the market place is not just nice to have - it's esential .

If Microsoft is successful in achieving its goals, then the landscape of gaming would look incredibly bleak.

And no, this is clearly still Microsoft's end game despite their protestations. They do not want Sony in the market. And as i said on another article, i hope developers really take note of Microsoft showing their true colours here.

Its hilarious to see this come out at the same time as they have been working to portray themselves as poor little microsoft who - in their words - have lost the console wars. When, in reality, they are clearly heating things up to a level never before seen in the industry.

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@strrckshn: Lest we forget that Sony basically extinguished many a console in their day. Microsoft has extinguished zero. Also, Sony is quite good at killing themselves, so Microsoft doesn't really even need to help them. Their lackluster innovation and research had them basically go from a market leader in many consumer electronics segments to, basically, a top 10 (maybe) in TVs and First place in video game consoles. So the Playstation is really their only viable business at this point. So of course they're scared. However, Sony could easily enough snuff themselves from the market without any help, just like they have with every other division at the company.

As far as Microsoft goes, even if this deal did NOT go through, they could just as easily pay $60 Billion, but all dev costs, ongoing, for exclusive rights to all AB titles. So no ownership, but THIS would be spending Sony out of the market. Buying a company and committing to continue developing titles for your competitor is not. Also don't forget that Sony is far and away the leader in exclusive titles, by a factor of like 10 to 1. So please don't act like it's "Poor little Sony" either.

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@crazknuk:Lest we forget that Sony basically extinguished many a console in their day. Microsoft has extinguished zero.

Limiting your thinking to consoles is a mistake. We're talking about video games in general. Outside of mobile gaming, Windows is the largest platform for video gaming, with the largest installed base and many of the biggest games, even those that are otherwise exclusive to either Sony or MS consoles. Microsoft owns that.

Never mind as well that this is the company that created "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" as a strategy for conquering product categories through anticompetitive maneuvering, with a litany of has-been competitors across myriad product categories who have fallen by the wayside in past decades.

With Microsoft's interference in browsers, OSes, office software, media formats, and yes, even video games, there's an argument to be made that we're a good decade or more behind where we could have been at this point if Microsoft hadn't been allowed to operate as they have.

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@aichon: I agree with you to an extent. However, I would also go as far as to say that the EEE paradigm isn't a Microsoft creation, but is the exact goal of capitalism. Microsoft was simply the first tech company to REALLY execute on that idea effectively. Now, though, you can point to Google, controlling the vast majority of the Internet, Internet Advertising, etc. and Amazon who is controlling the vast majority of online retail. We don't want to admit that, though. I mean how could that be, Google's mission is to do no evil! <devil horns here> and Amazon offers me free shipping and all I pay is a reasonable annual fee that equates to like 2 shipments anywhere else on the web...... wait a second.....

The biggest difference is that with Google and Amazon, both operate within an infrastructure that is NOT within their own control, so everyone has the same opportunity to create the next Google or Amazon :) Shit, even Apple was basically screwing every single one of their customers by explicitly making older platforms run slower in each subsequent OS and they basically got nothing. The only real different here is the stigma. Microsoft has had previous legal cases around this, so they are bad. Everyone else is ok, because we don't want to lose them. Well, hate to break it to everyone, but if we lost Windows tomorrow, it would set the world back 20 years because there is literally no viable alternative and even those ones which COULD be would never be because the Linux collective doesn't want their community all gummed up with grandmas and grandpas who can't figure how to install something on their Ubuntu. Basically, if you can't grep, get wrecked.

Honestly, I see a lot of people preach about these subjects, but they generally look at it with rosey goggles and think that they would have been so much better off with something else, but that's usually not the reality, and where it is we see that MS products die. Where is Bing, IE, Zune? Define a litany of competitors that they've dismantled? Honestly, Microsoft is big and they will do what big companies do and try to crush competitors with money. That's nothing new though, look at GE in the 80s. If you don't know who GE is, then enough said.

Circling back to gaming, though, I own both a PS5 and a Xbox Series X and a PC...ish (mid-tier gaming laptop). Between the consoles, though, Xbox is a much superior user experience and much more polished, but I play both about the same amount. That being said, if all games were available on both consoles, I feel like I would choose XBox over PS5 simply because of the innovation towards a connected environment, where PS5 seems to burn those bridges any time the subject comes up. If you're interested to see WHY Sony is going to die, that's the reason. Not 100% their fault, though, since they simply DON'T have the money to throw down a well to create integrations with your whole life. For what it's worth, both have mobile apps which are mostly annoying and unusable, from what I've seen.

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@aichon: Are you sure that's not a North Korean blogger? :P

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@aichon: The "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" strategy is nuts. I've worked in tech for 20 years and hadn't heard of it until I read your comment. Did a bit a reading on it, guess you learn something new everyday. Thanks.

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@ThePlantain: I've been linking articles about this kind of shit for 20 years.

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None of the three are completely innocent, but I feel like MS definitely takes the cake for being the most evil lol. Like sure, have a few exclusives, but still share the majority of games (Sega, Capcom, FromSoft etc.) so everyone can still enjoy most of them. Don't now threaten to buy up everyone and have a monopoly.

And like, Sony bought Bluepoint and Housemarque, but compare those to Bethesda and Activision. Yeah, not the same thing. And you can't say Bungie because it's been explicitly stated that they're staying multi.

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@mooglestar: I would say Sony has taken that title this generation. They've certainly been resting on their laurels the most, dragging their feet with a lot of high profile pro-consumer issues (like cross-platform support). And have still been buying the most exclusives off of the other platforms.

I don't think the Bethesda and ABK purchase plays into that much yet (since most of the games to come out on Bethesda's side has been multiplat)

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@m4a5: *coughNintendocough*

Sony has multiplatted over half their modern first party titles...

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@Barighm: They are certainly up there with how they treat their fans (copyright strikes and canceling tournaments), and requiring a subscription to backup saves off of the Switch.

But they did release the Switch in the most complete state of the 3 consoles, and are relatively pro cross-platform (from what I've seen).

Unless I'm missing why you think Nintendo is actually the most evil this gen towards consumers..?

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I don't think there's anything here we didn't already know.
Microsoft have shown very decisively
that they don't understand games well enough to make their own,
so simply buying up everyone else's
is pretty much the strategy I'd be taking were I in their position.

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I have a reasonably decent amount of money invested in Microsoft stock, which has been doing very well recently because of Chat GPT. I just listened to an interview with the CEO of Microsoft on the podcast "Freakanomics" - he seems like a really smart and decent person. He made the comment that competition was rarely a "zero sum game" and that growing the pie often leads to more success than just dominating the pie.

I don't think he'd be on board with this notion.

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Well, duh. That's always been their strategy.

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All that money and Microsoft still can't be bothered to create a line-up of franchises people want to play.

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Maybe that should put their unlimited funds into actual game development then 🤷‍♂️ Sony/PlayStation have built a reputation based on their high quality games while Microsoft are only really known for having money.

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The email sorta implies Nintendo and Sony will merge. Nintendo isn't mentioned despite being the actual Disney of gaming.

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@Elranzer: You'd think but that would have to interfere with some kind of monopoly law in Japan. That said, mobile phones are the biggest players there so...maybe not.

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@Elranzer: good point, but they are only the "Disney of gaming" when it comes to creativity. Regarding market leadership, Sony is really much ahead

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@G-Corleone said:

@Elranzer: good point, but they are only the "Disney of gaming" when it comes to creativity. Regarding market leadership, Sony is really much ahead

True, but to be fair, Nintendo is also INSANELY profitable.

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Yeah, they won't be going out of business because MS outspends them, unless they themselves mismanage their resources to a stupid degree.

Just sounds like hyperbole at best.

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Why is Sony the only company allowed to monopolize the gaming industry or purchase publishers without any question Sony is a evil company these are fake emails that Sony has put out to stop the sale and it is pretty pathetic

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@dethmetal420: I'll join in the chorus asking what major franchise Sony has permanently locked out from other companies with their acquisitions.

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@dethmetal420: Sony has never exclusivized a major multiplatform franchise, at least I can't think of any, and the closest they have ever come is FF, but it's still multiplat in some form. The reality is they just recently multiplatted most of their core franchises. Frankly, Nintendo is much worse.

As far as exclusives are concerned, they're ALL evil, so don't kid yourself.

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@Barighm: I don't think it's fair to ask Nintendo to put Mario out on all other platforms. Their IP are really all they have - there is no major, mainstream 3rd party support for the Switch.

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@dethmetal420: Sony aren't the ones trying to purchase ongoing franchises and blocking other platforms of future sequels.

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@pcps4xb: that's almost exactly what they did/have been doing for almost 20 years... Just not on as big a scale of this MS-ActiBlizz bid

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@OnettRage: which ongoing IP have they purchased and blocked sequels ?

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@dethmetal420: You have officially smoked yourself stupid.

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@stickemup: he's half baked

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@dethmetal420

"these are fake emails that Sony has put out to stop the sale and it is pretty pathetic"

What are you talking about? Did you not read the full story? Microsoft themselves acknowledged the emails with their statement. Try again.

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@dethmetal420: can't tell if trolling or delusional.

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@Daian: haha! Same

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@Daian: How about both at the same time?

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To be clear, Nintendo already IS the Disney of video games. Mario is a bigger IP than Mickey Mouse, and if M$ or Disney could, they would’ve bought Nintendo a long time ago.

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@bat725: MS DID try to buy Nintendo. They were literally laughed out of the room:

"Microsoft was laughed out of the room, says Kevin Bachus, a director for third-party relations on the Xbox project. "They just laughed their asses off," Bachus said to Bloomberg. "Like, imagine an hour of somebody just laughing at you. That was kind of how that meeting went."

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@Barighm: ms has always been a company made off of jealousy and envy. now that they are sinking faster then ever, they are grabbing at what ever they can as a life raft to keep relavent, their demise will be sooner then later.

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@bat725: As owner of Mario and partial/majority owner of Pokemon, Nintendo also already owns most of the valuable IP.

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Booty needs to pull his head out of his ass. There is no scenario where Microsoft spends PlayStation out of business. It has one of the most loyal fan bases I've ever seen and several of the best developers on the planet. Microsoft may be able to spend their way a bit further up the ladder but putting Sony out of business? Completely absurd. This kind of Stupid just can't be taken seriously. Who made this guy chief of anything?

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@bdrtfm: Well, that's funny, because between the two of us I'm surprised that I'm the one who believes they CAN spend Sony out of business. That's exactly what they're attempting to do by investing in AI: if you own all the most awesome developer tools and keep all the new games made with them under your umbrella, you shortchange Sony which is still operating on mostly a traditional hardware model. There will be a flood of independently developed games. It's essentially what YouTube did to traditional TV viewing.

Of course, my opinion was totally different before the rise of AI.

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@bdrtfm: Microsoft ain't putting no Sony out of business, that's never going to happen. That Booty has a loose screw. It will be next to impossible to put out of business the evil empire of Sony. They will keep doing what their doing. That's continuing to monopolize everything and anything.

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find it very funny a microsoft spokesperson was told to try and mitigate this info apparently this is the thing that scares them wonder what else there is to this line of details

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So Microsoft wants a full-on video game monopoly then.

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@somberfox: Pretty sure any gaming company would want that. Since dreams and fantasies are free.

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That woulda caused no Persona games on PlayStation. Persona only being on Xbox would've seen no sales.

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