Miyamoto worried over abundance of gun-focused games

@DukeMagnum

I see where your coming from but Thats irrelevent considering Nintendo has been Making Online Games on Wii and 3DS that work, so i dont understand how Miyamoto's confusion on Pikmin 3 means there isnt gonna be other great working online games.

Speaking of which, Nintendo stated they dont want to be the best in Online service but obviously not to be slouchy, and speaking of which again, People are ignoring how much of a step Miiverse is.

Nintendo does things their way, right now atleast, we can see NSMBU has some sort of achievement system but whether its the game or is basically Nintendo's Achievements is lesser known, dont want to throw you off but you cant ignore these.

@DukeMagnum

I do agree that the absence of online is a missed opportunity but considering that the 1st two Pikmin games were single player experiences, then I'm sure the 3rd one will definitely have a fully realized single player campaign. Even the fact that you can play two completely different ways has me sold since I can play through it one way then switch the next time around.

I guess you can call not including online lazy, but when considering the polish and creativity that all the other games he's played a major role in developing have, it's really hard to believe he's anything but lazy. Remember we're in an era where now the average game tends to not extend past 10 hours, yet Nintendo always seems to come out with games that go well past that mark and still provide an extremely fun and unforgettable experience that will indeed make many players want to come back and play again. I used to trade in my games all the time so I can get new ones, except my Nintendo games because they are games I know I will come back and play through again.

@abHS4L88 Look, I appreciate the single player experiences. I respect it, even. If this was meant to be a single player game and that's that, then leave out the multiplayer. But when he says the following, it's hard to believe that Pikmin is truly intended to be a deep single player only experience:

“You have to be very careful that you don’t drop frames as you’re trying to sync up with other players over what could be a very great physical distance, over the internet.

But in the situation of Pikmin, for example, since you would have lots of individual, small creatures, the Pikmin, whose every movement and location is going to be really important in the game, it would be very difficult to sync up over an internet connection.

“So what we’ve decided to do is focus on the single-player and local multiplayer aspects, which are really fun. But unfortunately, no online multiplayer for Pikmin 3. But the co-op local multiplayer is really fun.”

It sounds like Nintendo either doesn't know how to write proper netcode or they're too lazy to do so. Since this is something that's been done before on at least a 28.8k modem, I have to believe it's laziness. I didn't say he wasn't working on a lot of projects; I said he was working on them lazily, not devoting effort into making them all they could be.

They know that their core customers will accept whatever they do, and the people with a Wii (or Wii U in this case) who aren't core customers don't know any better. Developmentally, Nintendo is years behind what other games are doing, and I'm not speaking in terms of graphics. They get a pass over and over, because like you said, you can't get those games anywhere else.

@DukeMagnum

They also stated with Pikmin 3 that it is more of a single player experience with the inclusion of multiplayer.

And okay, I may be wrong about Miyamoto not having anything to do with the NSMB series but regardless, that doesn't make him a lazy developer. How can he be possibly lazy when he's been developing Skyward Sword, Pikmin 3, Super Mario Land 3D, overseeing the production of NSMB U and NSMB2 along with the development of the Wii U itself AND an original IP? Most game developers are able to focus on just one or two titles at a time, not this man, he's constantly working his ass off to ensure that the industry has many quality experiences that you really cannot find else where.

So yeah, I may have been wrong about his involvement, but that all the more proves why he's not lazy, especially considering how much different the upcoming NSMB titles are from each other.

@abHS4L88 @indicaX I know, I just have a penchant for making pithy, sarcastic remarks.

@fightingfish18

I believe I was the same when I was a kid, but here's the thing, was that all we cared about? Or what we mainly talked about? I'm pretty sure you guys have played different types of games other than pretend cops and robbers, whereas now it's all they do.

@Khasym

The difference between a toy gun and CoD, is that a toy gun doesn't dictate how you play with it, it's up to you and your friends to determine who you are, what world or setting you're in, why you're battling each other, it's not, oh you're a soldier go kill each other because we're at war. In a child's mind, they can be an alien race called the Baituks from the planet Xiantu in the far reaches of the galaxy battling their sworn enemies, the Tarkians, for control of the planet's resources.

Miyamoto isn't say, nor am I saying, that developers are completely at fault. For me, along with parenting, it's also the huge focus on the FPS genre. I mean even last generation FPS games were really only prominent on the XBox and was mostly Halo, but this generation it exploded with more and more developers trying to cash in on this genre that, when focused on the multiplayer, tends to be rather mindless and shallow. Yes it's loads of fun, I used to play these games and if I'm at a friend's house who plays it, maybe I'll join in, but the fact that these experiences really only shift depending on who you play online (and even then it doesn't make that much of a difference). IGN reported on article about how games are becoming easier and require less thinking and strategy than before, which is completely true.

Chuck E. Cheese, I don't even want to know what their pizza is made out of.

@MrWhalo

Cheek E Cheese or GameStop? I'll keep myself protected XD

@abHS4L88 Yeah, I'm sure it is hell working there. Plus, I think it raises your chance of getting some form of Hepatitis by 100%. Lol.

@MrWhalo

Lol, I have friends who tell me working at Chuck E. Cheese is hell so I'll pass. I actually work at an afterschool program at the elementary school down my street. I just wanted to work at GameStop for the summer since I wasn't able to do summer program, also since there are a few games I want still and 5 games I want coming out next month so it'd be nice to get a discount XD. Plus as much as I said it'd drive me nuts, I think I could handle it, just have to resist the urge to speak, haha.