Netflix's Jessica Jones And Punisher Canceled, But Marvel Gives Fans Hope For Return

@Sepewrath: Disney can't force anything and this is the thing you guys clearly don't seem to understand. If Disney can forcefully retake production rights, how come they can't make X-Men movies? How come they couldn't use Spider-Man, a Marvel property, in earlier Avengers movies? How come they can't make a HULK movie, but HULK can appear in their movies?

The answer: they don't have the rights for those properties. Fox owns the rights for X-Men (which is probably why Disney bought Fox; gives them access to a second superhero universe to work with). Sony owns the rights for Spider-Man movies, but they worked out a deal with Marvel so that they can use him. Universal owns the movie rights to the HULK, but Marvel owns the HULK itself, so they can use him in whatever they want, they just can't make a movie called "The HULK", or specifically about, the HULK.

The same scenario is likely true here. Netflix owns the television rights for the Defenders. They can do whatever they want until those rights expire for whatever reason. They stated the shows were very costly to produce. They stated viewership was way down. Marvel complained about working with them. Recipe for cancellation using actual facts? Sounds good to me.

@Sepewrath: More like Netflix didn't want to pay the obscene royalties that Disney was going to demand from futures seasons.

@reklawm: Disney+ has been confirmed to be "family friendly" meaning the more grim Defenders style characters and stories won't be on it. However Disney owns 20% of Hulu, and FOX owns 40% of Hulu, so once FOX is bought by Disney, 60% will be owned by Disney... so it's been theorized that Hulu will be the location where Disney puts it's less family friendly series... and it appears like all the Netflix series will be migrated to Hulu, or at least that appears to be the hopes of everyone involved.

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@Barzenak42: Don't be too sad just yet, Punisher and Daredevil, along with Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and The Defenders, are all very likely to make their debut on the soon to be Disney owned Hulu. The facts are all of the Marvel Netflix shows did very well (even though people criticized Iron Fist and Luke Cage, as a whole they did very well in ratings and viewership counts) they however were very expensive to make since they had to pay large royalties to Disney for use of their characters... it will actually be considerably cheaper for Hulu to make episodes of those shows since they won't have to pay royalties to themselves as they already own the characters. Because of this it's unlikely Hulu wouldn't pick up all these amazing shows.

@warmblur: Sorry to say it but luckily you're in the minority when it comes to that opinion. While season 2 of Jessica Jones wasn't as good as the groundbreaking season 1 was, it was still a well liked. As for Punisher, season 2 is widely considered to be superior to season 1 by the masses, not sure why you didn't like it but most did... and now that Netflix has cancelled all of the Marvel series, Disney is going to be free to pick up all the shows and put them on, the soon to be Disney owned, Hulu.

@warmblur: Season 2 of the Punished is WAY WAY better and more exciting then season one, not sure what show you watched.

@bat725: Almost none of what you said is remotely true. Netflix cancelled the series, they're now free for any network to pick up willing to pay Marvel for the character rights, you should probably do research on what a network cancelling a series is compared to a network letting a show end... cancellation means the network has 0 rights over the property anymore unless the characters were original creations of the network... since these are Marvel characters, Netflix doesn't own any of them, meaning since Netflix cancelled all their series, they've lost all rights to those characters.

Hulu, which will soon be 60% owned by Disney, is almost guaranteed to pick up all the Marvel Netflix series. All the series, despite a few loud whining children about Iron Fist and Luke Cage, did very well... and the main reason they were cancelled is because, as Netflix has reported multiple times, those shows are very expensive to make since they have to pay massive royalties to Marvel/Disney for the use of their characters... guess what? A Disney own service, ie Hulu, doesn't have to pay that royalty... meaning Hulu can pick up these successful series, and produce them at a considerably cheaper price than Netflix could. Something that everyone involved is hoping gets done.

Also just so you know, Disney already announced and confirmed that Disney+ will be Family friendly content ONLY... they will almost guaranteed be using Hulu for their non-family oriented movies and series. So the future of most of the non-cartoon Marvel series, will be on Hulu, not Disney+.

@bat725: Disney in fact with do their best to ruin every single decent character in the marvel universe. What they have done to the Star Wars universe is a travesty. I could write a short book on the destruction they have done to Star Wars.

@Terminator95: What Netflix should do is make a more longer lasting partnership with DC and get more of those stories going. Titan's (not a Netlfix exclusive) Was an awesome example of what they can do given a more freeing platform. I want to see more of that.

@rodoxthedark: Or because of the reason Netflix gave: viewership decreased by 60 to 70% for all of the shows. That's an enormous loss. Maybe Disney said "with those numbers this ain't worth doing" but Netflix is like the Walmart of the streaming world, so I can see the decision being entirely theirs.

@j3diknightdave: I think if Disney does bring Punisher back, they will tone it down, thus killing it.

@gamingdevil800: the main problem with JJ was that the first season was so ridiculously good that it was going to be hard to top or even come close. so it could only go one way, and that was down.

@Barighm: I mean, its totally a coincidence that all of those shows suddenly disappeared right around when disney got their hands on marvel and announced their stream service.

Maybe you are right but im not so sure that viewership drop is the only reason. Shows are often inconsistent and last i heard punisher lost less viewers with S2 compared to the others . You don't just cancel like 5 shows one after another.

@cylor: because if they don't cancel them Disney would sue there ass.

@cylor: from what ive heard netflix only cancelled them because they dont own the property and would cause issues in the future =/ especially with disney bringing their own streaming platform