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PES 2018 Improves On The Pitch Yet Again, But Its Lack Of Licenses Will Always Hold It Back

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PES 2018 is great, but there's one thing stopping it from hitting the heights of FIFA.

On the pitch, PES 2018 is fantastic. Every pass is beautiful, every tackle crunching, and every shot ferocious. If you've played any recent Pro Evo, that shouldn't come as a surprise. The series has improved dramatically since the PS3/Xbox 360 era, culminating in possibly the most fluid and satisfying football game ever released. FIFA's gameplay, meanwhile, has stagnated in recent years, becoming less responsive, more sluggish, and more frustrating to play.

Despite this, FIFA easily outsells PES every year for one simple reason: licenses. We're yet to see if EA's behemoth has improved over last year with FIFA 18, but we can count on it letting players realize their childhood dreams and play as Neymar, Ronaldo, Rooney, et al. PES, meanwhile, restricts you to a handful of licensed teams, with much of the English and Spanish leagues, among others, reduced to placeholders such as Man Blue, MD White, and London FC (Manchester City, Real Madrid, and Chelsea, respectively).

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Player licenses are thankfully not an issue, so you can still play as your favorite players. But when they're inexplicably playing in a plain green kit rather than their official red or white or blue strip, the fantasy of controlling your team is significantly diminished, and you feel like you're playing a knock-off XStation GameBox cartridge your dad brings back from the car boot sale.

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Once upon a time, these inaccuracies were amusing. Playing as "Gregs" rather than Ryan Giggs was funny when I was 10 years old, and even this year, looking at PES 2018's teams did spark a fun game of guessing who "West Glamorgan City," "East Dorsetshire," and "ST Yellow" were in real life. But it's becoming annoying, and it undermines the very reason many people play football games: to get their fix of their favorite club when it's not a Saturday afternoon.

PES is by no means alone in this regard--while FIFA has something of a monopoly on many league licenses, other popular games such as Football Manager also make do with a limited selection. That series, along with PES, has notably struggled to obtain any sort of license for the German Bundesliga, which is completely absent (even in make-believe form) from PES 2018 and only exists in Football Manager 2017 in an unofficial form. But where FM stands almost alone in the football management sim genre, save for a few also-ran mobile titles, PES has FIFA to compete with. Konami's problem is getting worse, too: FIFA's license library is expanding, with the Iceland national team a new addition this year and women's teams being introduced not too long ago. PES is also adding clubs--this season has brought new partnerships with Fulham and Inter Milan, and sees the series' exclusive arrangements with Barcelona and UEFA continue--but teams are being removed as quickly as they're added: Manchester United and Bayern Munich have been fully licensed in PES in recent years, but in 2018 we're back to Man Red and no Bayern at all.

You can mod teams' kits, badges, and names in, of course, and there's a very dedicated community out there to help fill in the gaps with some sterling replicas. But the majority of people who play football games will never realize that, much less know how to mod those details into their game, and never mind care--FIFA already has those kits, after all. Even as a huge fan of both football and video games, and a fairly recent convert to PES, I'm tiring of Konami's homebrew solution. Spending time importing and editing these details--I haven't even mentioned manager and stadium names or competition titles and badges--is a bind, especially when I have to do it every year. Football is perfect pick-up-and-play material, and this is anything but.

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So what's the solution? Assuming the lack of licenses is simply a money issue, Konami could stump up the cash to get the official Premier League brand. But after 18 years making Pro Evolution Soccer without any such arrangement, the publisher is clearly either unable or unwilling to acquire a catalog on the level of FIFA's. So the burden must fall to the developers: not only to continue making a superior football game but also to do a better job of replicating the stars we watch on TV and in stadiums around the world every week. While some clubs' kits are imitated fairly accurately, others are wildly different to their real-world counterparts: calling West Brom "West Midlands Stripes" is probably a hint they play in a striped kit, for example, and watch any Tottenham Hotspur game and you'll discover they don't play in dark blue. Finally, an expansion of leagues to include the Bundesliga, and preferably the lower English leagues, is a must. Not only is this a problem when it comes to playing as those teams--bad luck if you're a Wolfsburg fan, or if you support any team in League 1 or League 2--but it also restricts the players available for you to buy in Master League mode.

Until these problems are solved--or those licenses acquired--I fear PES will forever be written off by many as the runner-up to FIFA, no matter how accomplished the former's gameplay may get. FIFA's obsession with realism may be harming the series on the pitch--but for the moment, it's the very thing keeping it ahead.

For more on this year's Pro Evo, check out GameSpot's full PES 2018 review.


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Edited By Valduramma

Can not wait for this. On the pitch is where it matters to me. And the gameplay this year,judging by the beta and the demo, is too damn sexy to ignore.

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I played the online demo but the non assisted passing felt awful for me its almost like there is no 360 control. Might just be me but the game ferls like it wants you to play it with assists on.

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Edited By mari3k

While Pes was always better gameplaywise, and I play it since ISS-97 , it changed during the last 2-3 years.

Now Fifa is the real simulation und pes the arcade kick. So I dont care about licences and patches, cause I have fifa

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well, being written this article i can say one thing for sure, GS is stupidly ignorant, at least.

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Edited By nyran125

It only takes 10 - 30 minutes or so, to change all the names , you can download official badges from the premier league website and get the kits looking reasonably accurate. Even if not completely accurate, you can just.......CHANGE the names in barely any time at all.

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@nyran125: yeah but still no licensed stadiums, or proper team chants!

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Edited By mikajoakkinen

FIFA = realism? MUAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJA....AJAJAJAJA.. AHAHAHAHAHAH, AHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA, AHAH, AHAHHAHHHHAHAHAH..OMGLOL AHAHAH. XD XDXDXD

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Licenses? one word people: PATCH

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Edited By BarcaAzul

This year's game is fantastic on the pitch. FIFA has the licenses tied up till about 2022 I believe.

Like in football, I like the underdog. It takes no time to edit teams either.

The fluid play and responsiveness of this year's PES is a joy.

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Edited By swerobby1988

Licenses?? took me 10 mins on Pes 2017 to download kits on a usb and import them on PS4, i played with all Licensed kits thank you. I'll be doing the same this year.

This game as a complete package does not beat fifa, but it beats it hands down where it counts, and that's gameplay

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For me main problem of the pes is online play . There are lots of lag cheaters out there and KONAMI could not stop them since pes 2013. They're ruining the fun of the online gameplay. And KONAMI does not care these players. For them important point is the number of the players that play online. İf it is cheater or not no problem for them. I've writen maybe hundreds times to KONAMI to find a solution and made suggestions how to block them but incase they decrease the limit of the blockable player number to 25 in pes 2017, it was 100 in pes 2016. Because of this every year players who are buying pes is decreasing. I hope they will find a solution for this in pes 2018...

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This lack of licence debacle in PES has been going on since the ps1 days. Its the same argument in literally every pes review. Reviewers have not been able to go beyond that. At its best, pes 2018 plays a brilliant game of football and that you cant find on fifa. It retains the pes spirit, but you can still see cracks in some technical aspects, like shots being too simplistic comapred to even pes 5. Fix those niggle and pes will be unbeatable in just gameplay department.

If you want to capture the real spirit of football, play pes, if you like all the bells, whistles, trading and modes, fifa is you go to game.

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they should make a female football game, because all I see when I watch males play are drama queens and whiners on the field, the reason I watch Rugby.

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@phili878: Then why are you here reading a review about a football game rather than a rugby one, and you even had the time to read to the end and enter a nonsensical comment.

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@junioroz74: that is a good question.

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lmao PES sax man

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I want to like PES, I really do. But why doesn't any play testers pick up that the AI just don't foul enough. Last years game i went a complete season with 1 foul from the AI. No fouls means no FK's no pens, no red/yellow cards, now cmon, without all that how on earth can this be rated as the best football game. Fifa has its problems, but if your in a derby game ive had 2 sending offs a penalty & a few cards to go with all the usual football. PES, sort out the AI, I can get along with an option file for licences, but the AI needs sorting out for single players. The demo makes me worried again as I have played over 30 games & again had 2 fouls.

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@wigster11: they are gonna improve this with a patch

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@uzi9mm: Said that the last 2 years, didn't happen. But hopefully.

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I think a good option would just stop trying with the fake-leagues and fake-players. Instead they should embrace the "pure football" spirit and stay away from big cups that are all about money and brands anyway.

A local field, 22 local guys and possibly couple of dozen spectators in the stands. That's what football is about. Or alternatively the game could be all about creating stuff. On first boot the game randomly generates a bunch of teams and players and if you're not happy taking one of them into multiplayer then make your own.

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@PrpleTrtleBuBum: So an even more stripped back and barebones footballing experience? I see where you are going with this but then I think the game would sell even less. Don't forget they need to sell and make money as a business.

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@Fatgigi: You're most likely right. It's just that personally I'd rather see them go for something more unique than 2nd class mockery. At least in online it would be interesting to see what people name their teams and players and everything (though many probably would just be full of Rooneys and Messis lol)

Plus seeing as they're not paying for license anyway, it wouldn't even save money.

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well since when pes had all the licenses ? on ps2 the same problem was there and i remeber that the game was never judge for that but for what really matters , gameplay. the racing game i liked more till today was a game called burnout im sure everyone remenmbers it and you know what ? it had no licenses but hell it was fun , so if pes is better on what matters respect that

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How's this related to Destiny?

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Edited By oren66

It's all about the gameplay rather than decoration, and PES provides it this year unlike FIFA which feels the same with no heart.

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@oren66: not always, good presentation and licensed stadiums/atmosphere can add to the gameplay by making it more immense

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@uzi9mm:

All of these is there just to cover up a boring and a very predictable gameplay.

In 10 min i can patch PES to become a proper game with all the license and all the rest.

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@oren66: really? online match making? all the features that PES lacks you can patch that in 10 mins? FIFA is a deeper game than PES imo. I see why people like PES tho.

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Better buy them both on sale, they are not worth their full price every year...

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Edited By Fatgigi

Another thing which I feel needs to be mentioned. PES is incredibly far behind when it comes to presentation and I don't mean graphics. Fifa really nails a lot of the little things like menus, those mini game challenges, the journey, reliable online matchmaking (in PES it always seems I get matched against Barcelona no matter what) and not to mention the polish in FUT and other modes like career mode (at least judging on what I can see so far about fifa18). Ok, some of the things I mention here are not so little, but they could be considered complimentary to the main gameplay experience and it all adds up in making the buyer feel like they are getting value. Its very important to have satisfying gameplay and giving the player the best "feeling" when playing, however the presentation package as a whole is very important too and while I understand that PES might have a smaller budget for licences and such, they desperately need to get rid of all the clunkiness of the menus and just bring their game modes into the new age. Oh and also get rid of those stupid notifications/announcement every time I load the game. Cmon PES sort it out.

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Rewind 15 years and this article would be just as valid, nothing has changed.

PES has always been the football game for gaming fans, Fifa the football game for football fans, even before PES with ISS Pro konami created a great game first and foremost. You pick your camp.

Maybe the expectations these days are higher than they were 15 years ago, video games now are expected to have massive budgets and licensing is not exempt from that. It's when PES fails to deliver great gameplay that things begin to collapse, without the licensing PES absolutely has to deliver amazing gameplay, Fifa can coast on it's branding.

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You can add all the official kits and club names in few minutes. Personally i would trade licenses for game play any day. Player names are all official.

Another thing is EA locking licenses, you know i would like to see 2K lock NBA license so EA would find out how it feels to be fucked with haha. EA would be fuming

Another thing is that EA has sucked all the fun out of Fifa by trying to simulate a sport which cant really be fully simulated. I want to have fun with a footy game and thats what Pes does the best.

I wish someone would just make a good new Sensible Soccer so i dont have to bother with either of these two haha, not joking.

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@dudebropartyyo: I don't think losing the ability to make a fully licensed NBA game would really upset EA. Of its licensed sports empire, "NBA Live" ranks no better than 3rd.

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The lack of licenses is truly annoying, but that's not the only thing that makes PES weak. For me it's the look and atmosphere. The stadiums, the crowds, the way the players run and interact, it feels like a game from 2005, not 2017. I could get used to the gameplay, but the lack in all the other areas makes me not bother...

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@livedreamplay: You can add all the official kits and club names in few minutes. Personally i would trade licenses for game play any day. Will wait for Fifa demo and review, i found last two fifa's very disappointing after playing Fifa since 2002. Been forced to buy last 2 Pes games on sale for that reason. Ultimate team has become major cash grab as well. EA has sucked all the fun out of Fifa by trying to simulate a sport which cant really be fully simulated in a game. I want to have fun with a footy game and thats what Pes does the best.

But hey, everyone has different taste.

Another thing is EA locking licenses, you know i would like to see 2K lock NBA license so EA would find out how it feels to be fucked with haha.

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@dudebropartyyo: That's what I was saying, the licenses are annoying but it's not the main reason I'm not into PES. But yes, that's down to taste. I prefer the atmosphere, game modes, etc. at FIFA. Gameplay-wise I'm used to FIFA, but I could start getting into PES if they would fix their other sh*t.

EA are locking the licenses for huge bucks most likely. But yes, I think if 2k would spend in that direction NBA live would pretty much become obsolete.

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Edited By KillzoneSnake

If i buy PES why would i care about FIFA popularity? To even mention FIFA is silly. Most PES players know they can download an option file and get all licenses. So gameplay is less important than licenses? lol.... anyway PES18 Beta had better gameplay than demo so i pass.

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@KillzoneSnake: Ultimately, if all your friends play PES, you will play PES, if your friends play fifa you will play fifa.

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@KillzoneSnake: I think btea code is closer to the full game than the demo code.

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@dudebropartyyo: no beta was an old code

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