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PlayStation Now Beta Prices and Structure -- What Needs to Change?

Several GameSpot editors share their thoughts about PlayStation's new rental service and how it can improve.

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The beta test for Sony's PlayStation Now service opened to the public this week, and PlayStation 4 owners now have access to dozens of PlayStation 3 games. For a few dollars, players can try out one of the games instantly without the need to download. You can choose to rent a game for a number of different time periods, from four hours to 90 days.

As a service, it seems to work well besides a few latency issues, but we've noticed that some of the current prices are very high. For example, you can buy many of the games outright for less than it costs to rent them for a week.

However, Sony has noted that this is a beta test and the service will continue to change. "We are listening to our customers, and if customers want to see features or functions as part of PlayStation Now, they should feel free to let us know," the company said. What, then, is necessary to make PlayStation Now worth it? We asked several GameSpot editors to share their thoughts.

Let Us Buy the Full Game for a Discounted Price After Renting It -- Chris Pereira

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Beyond the obvious--having to pay more to rent a game than to buy it is dumb, beta or not--what I find most objectionable is the prospect of paying $7 for four hours of play. That's absurd, and paying $2-$3 for what amounts to a demo isn't much better. We need a subscription option. For now, seven days at $4-$7 is a reasonable value. That equals $1 or less per day, which feels almost astoundingly fair considering it's $50 for 90 days of F1 2013 or $20 for 30 days of Dirt 3.

What Now needs besides a subscription are discounted, full-game downloads. Sony has boasted about cloud saves letting you carry your save from a short rental to a long-term one (as if spending $5 and then $30 for Darksiders II is a great deal), but it should be trying to convert rentals into purchases. That's contrary to what seems like a trend toward services that take ownership out of our hands, but it would be a smart use of Now.

Make It Like Netflix -- Eddie Makuch

PlayStation Now rental prices, as they currently stand, are completely out of whack. Why would I spend $5 to play Metal Gear Solid 4 for four hours when I could buy it for $7 and play forever?

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At the moment, I'm not likely to adopt or recommend Sony's streaming service anytime soon. I want to try it and I certainly plan to, but I don't anticipate being a regular PlayStation Now user until prices come down or Sony introduces a Netflix-style program.

We know a subscription option is coming; Sony has said as much. But it remains to be seen how much this pass will cost and if we'll be able to share our subscription with family members like you can on Netflix. That would be a compelling value-add feature that I think would be well-received. If Sony were to add original PlayStation or PlayStation 2 titles to the library, that is something I would get excited about as well. PlayStation Now is breaking new ground for Sony and for the industry itself. Some level of growing pains are to be expected, but in its current form, pricing leaves much to be desired.

PlayStation Plus Already Does Everything -- Shaun McInnis

To me, the biggest problem with PlayStation Now is PlayStation Plus. Every month, like Santa Claus working a year-round shift, Plus delivers a free batch of games for me to enjoy. Sometimes, those are games I've already played. But most often, they're either brand-new, or they're games that I never really considered when they first came out and now I can try them out at no risk because, hey, they're free!

"I already have that low-risk counterpart to my regular purchases of full-priced games. Why bother with streaming rentals?"

To me, that's similar to the value proposition that PlayStation Now offers: a low-risk alternative to purchasing a game outright. After all, the benefit of plunking down a few bucks for a four-hour rental is that you're able to get a taste for the thing before you fully commit to it. But with Plus, I already get a pretty great selection of free titles for nothing more than the cost of an annual subscription. So I already have that low-risk counterpart to my regular purchases of full-priced games. Why bother with streaming rentals?

Maybe I'd think differently if I didn't have a Plus subscription, but Plus is a great value and Now... well, I don't know about you, but I'm probably not going to pay $50 to rent F1 2013 for 90 days any time soon.

Why Isn't PS Now a Part of PS Plus? -- Alex Newhouse

What PS Now desperately needs is some correspondence with PS Plus. As Shaun argued, Plus is such a good deal that it makes Now feel outright unfriendly toward the consumer, even if it's a good service. The PlayStation brand is fragmented between two competing services that both aim to deliver good games quickly and cheaply. If I'm already a Plus subscriber and am getting at least two new PS3 games per month, why would I ever try out Now?

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Sony should instead create a Now option heavily subsidized for existing Plus subscribers. It wouldn't be hard to add an $80 Plus tier that gives you PS Now perks. It doesn't even have to be unlimited Now access. It could simply give subscribers a certain amount of rental time to distribute among the games of their choice.

The individual rental prices can stay if they're significantly reduced, but Sony needs to work to entice its core audience. If these players get Now rentals included in their Plus subscription, that will feel more like a good deal. That'll also make Now seem more like a legitimate solution for backwards compatibility. Additionally, it will encourage Plus subscribers to try out the service and spread the word.

At the moment, PS Plus and PS Now reflect two wildly different business philosophies. For PS Now to be successful, it has to shift to be more consumer-friendly. Hopefully, as PS Now moves closer to a full release, we will see it merge in some way with PS Plus.

Be Bold With Your Prices, Sony, Don't Be a Dick -- Justin Haywald

When I think about the value I get from PlayStation Plus, the pricing for PlayStation Now seems absolutely baffling. With Plus, I feel like I come out ahead--I can access some great games (often games I was considering buying anyway), and the discounted price that I get for buying my Plus subscription on Black Friday makes the deal even better.

"Be bold, Sony. Charge $5 for a week-long game rental, or offer a subscription for Plus subscribers that's a flat $5/month for unlimited access."

But with rentals in Now broken out into four distinct time categories, prices that run as high as $49.99, and no way to access digital games you've purchased previously on PSN, Now feels like a greedy system solely designed to take your money. I know that PS Plus, along with Netflix and Steam Sales, are also organized just to make more money for companies, but I at least feel like I'm getting the better deal in those cases.

Sony says that it lets publishers set their own prices for this sort of content, but it's a place where Sony needs to step in and own its own service. Looking at the prices now, it feels like the company did market research during which it determined the max amount that people would spend on titles based on genre and time since release, then passed those numbers on to the publishers. But Sony needs to be like iTunes when that company pushed the boundaries of digital music with flat $1 song downloads and $10 for an album.

Be bold, Sony. Charge $5 for a week-long game rental, or offer a subscription for Plus subscribers that's a flat $5/month for unlimited access. That would make it the same price as EA Access, which, although it offers fewer games, isn't limited by streaming tech or restricted to last-gen titles.

If the future of "backwards compatibility" is renting games that I stream to my console at a premium price, I'm going to stick with shopping for bargains on Steam and just downloading my monthly free Plus games.

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Owning a game and playing for free via cloud streaming is not a viable option, Chris Pereira. The actual service of streaming is costly and bandwidth intensive. Imagine the cost to Sony if you were to leave your game paused and they don't get a single penny from that stream.


A subscription service for a large but limited selection of games is more advantageous for everyone. That is, even if I buy the entire library of games, I can only physically play one at a time anyway. So instead of letting us buy entire games to which we'll never enjoy a boxed copy or even a local downloaded copy, it's better to let us buy into a single subscription of a large library of titles.

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@elheber Onlive let's you buy each game. Just saying. Edit: Yeah, i got that one wrong. I don't think it's onlive that lets you buy nowadays

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Haven't used it for a long time, thought it was a sub.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I used it to buy Batman AA along time ago. But i lost my accoutn and never used it again anyway. Terrible lag for me.


If they removed it, i wouldn't know. Sorry if i'm mistaken. But yes, there is a sub. Website says it's 10 a month

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Hoping it will be like onlive.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Hopefully not onlive crashed and burned horrifically.

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Nice read Gamespot and here's my thought on PS Now. Now needs to be part of PS+ so that Sony can get even more subscribers to join and it would benefit Sony for having good reputation. Of course, if Sony needs to increase PS+ price to the same as Xbox Gold, then we can forgive them for doing that, it's understandable if Sony needs to increase Plus just because we can play unlimited old PS games. So there,PS Now needs to be part of Plus and it would put Gold to shame. As of now, PS+ is still a Hell of a deal then Now.

I'll wait for Sony's final decision on PS Now.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> make it the same as gold and make Gold a shame ?? LOL fail. if they add this with PS+ its going to be WAY more then 60 dollars with PS+

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The problem with subscriptions is, going by these prices, they're going to be very high. Being it an unlimited or limited sub, it's likely they'll cost simply too much. And why can't buy them anyway? OnLive lets you buy them and gives a monthly sub for 10.


IMO, if this is all because of higher costs for Sony, they should have sticked with their own exclusive owned IP's, offered a 5$ month/60$ a year alternative sub to stream exclusive PS3 titles. Might have been more cost effective.


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With Sony catering to what the the publishers want I don't see a subscription model costing less than $50 a month. The publishers want to get their customers and Sony wants to get their cut and also offset their costs. I can see it being operated like a cable modem where you have your basic gaming lineup for a flat fee then to add certain high dollar franchises or top publishers you have to pay another premium fee like you would with HBO.

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@rasterror Exactly. And while i don't think 50 is going to happen, it's definitely going to be 10 mininum. But then why pay?


Why would you pay atleast 120 a year, every year, to play PS3 games, on whatever device, when you can just buy a PS3, buy the games you want to play, and even sell them used, rent them, etc?


The reason why an unlimited sub is probably going to cost so much is because of so many games. But 95% of people will want to play less than 50% of them. If Sony can get to 10 like OnLive, that'd be awesome. But i can't see it happening.

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And you think Activision, Ubisoft, Capcom, and so many others are gonna be fine with sharing a $10 a month pie? Yeah right.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> exactly 10 buks a month is not gonna get you everything and onlive is not a good example because there's a ton they dont have for the very reason really we are looking at a 20 buk min for the sub price and even then companies like EA and activision are gonna want more. That's a problem because those companies make or break a service like this once use onlive as an example.

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PS+ is way better deal...

Imo,PS Now should offer PS1 games(and have beter pricing than current one)...the legendary ones,which are hard to find.

Vagrant Story,Lunar 1+2,Parasite Eve,Ogre Tactics...just to name few.

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@sladakrobot just a matter of time before plus games are being distributed by now , for one simple reason sony can make more money if they pay devs on number of minutes played instead of a per download basis

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you know back in the day, Blockbuster was what.. $5.99 for 7 days, just saying.

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So far PS Now looks to be one of the worst values ever. I know it's just a beta right now, but those prices are insane. Oh Sony, continuing to do everything half-assed.

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Why use this service when you can rent from RedBox for much cheaper? Yeah, the game selection on RedBox isn't as good, but it's also not ripping us off like PS Now.

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So basically for now until they change the prices its cheaper or better value, if there are several games you want to play, to just buy an old system and the games from amazon.

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Why can't we just play our PS3 games in our PS4... Oh wait the same reason as Xbone, you want people to be buy into shitty schemes you have worked out to make even more money *facepalm*

I wouldn't mind If we could just pay for the games to be kept in our ownership to have the convenience to always play it on our PS4 but I'm not going to pay $5-7 for 4 hours gameplay.....

A fortnight to rent a game DIGITALLY should only cost $5-7 for oldish games I mean you've already made a bulk of cash off from these games on retail why not make an investment by giving gamers an incentive to actually rent them for a decent value?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> youre wrong im to tired to keep explaining though why the new consoles don't have bc.

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Well, that's pretty disappointing. I didn't have much interest in the PS Now service when they announced it but I remained cautiously optimistic. Looks like the optimism was unfounded. PS Now just looks terrible, I really hope Sony get's a handle on what they are doing with this thing or they could be out a lot of money.

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I see free games with PS Plus being stopped.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> No what happens is as the console gets older you get older games(like ps3). Eventually it'll mostly be games you either passed on or already owned(that's what I ran into on ps3). It is a bit insulting that fanboys were celebrating Sony now charging for online play... That kind of gives away that PS+ wasn't much of a deal for most people.

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Merge PS+ with PS now and up the monthly sub fee to $9,99

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I think it should be separated with a ps+ discount....not everyone will be able to afford the 10/month.....I would not have an issue but I can see some would.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Its not even an issue of afford, why would I want to pay that much for a service that I only want for online gaming?


PS Now needs a subscription for sure but only for those that want it...

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> So kind of like with Sky TV where you buy the basic package and then can add the movies or sports packages for an extra, if you want to. That makes more sense than forcing it on people who only want the online side of PS+, but I still think a discount for those with PS+ would make it a much better deal.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> So you are saying..if I only would want the sports package...I will be forced to buy the basic packages aswell?


I am not sure I see the difference in selecting one as optional but not the other

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Killer6b9 said that he wants Sony to just make it part of the PS+ subscription, but ArabrockermanX said that he has no interest in PS Now and wouldn't want the PS+ sub to go up for something he wouldn't use. So what I was saying is that if Sony were to add it into PS+ sub they would probably do a tier based system similar to Sky, PS+ Basic and then PS+ platinum with a built in PS Now sub. So those that only want multiplayer could buy the Basic, and those that want PS+ and PS Now could buy the platinum. I suppose a better comparison would be Xbox Live Silver and Gold.


Personally I think it would be better for the customers, if they went with sub based PS Now, for both stay separate from one another. That way it makes the choice of what you want easier, you don't have to buy something you don't want to get something you do.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Hope not, Sky is a rip-off. Should be capped,

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I absolutely agree with you about Sky, I don't have it myself, but I was just using the way their service is setup as an example. You don't have to buy the sports channels if you don't like sports and just want to enjoy the types of shows on Sky 1.


People who aren't interested in PS Now shouldn't have to pay extra for PS+ with I PS Now included if they don't want it. But a PS+ with a discounted PS Now pricing, say like a PS+ Platinum could be a good way to go.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Yeah, on a second thought that is probably true. Still, sub model for PS Now is the only way for me to even consider it.

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Sub please, a nice yearly one.

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Wouldnt it be much easier if one could simply buy PS1/2/3 games on PS now for 20-50 bucks and just own them forever?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Since it is digital, you may want to remove "forever" from that statement

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Well I meant as long as the service lives of course, but you get the point.

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There are still editors to share their thoughts?

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