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PS3 hits 14.4M as Sony game income rises

Despite a doubling of PS3 revs, Japanese giant sees flat quarterly revenues and sinking profits due to lackluster electronic sales.

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A burden on the Japanese electronics giant following the PlayStation 3's 2006 launch, Sony Computer Entertainment has steadily risen, attaining profitability during the third of its 2007 fiscal year. Though the division's annual revenue was still in the red for the year, its losses halved from the prior year, thanks to lowered production costs, increased PS3 and PSP sales, and still-strong PlayStation 2 and software sales.

For the first fiscal quarter ended June 30, Sony's games division reaped ¥229.6 billion ($2.1 billion), a 17 percent increase over the ¥196.6 billion ($1.8 billion) the business brought in over the same period last year. PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable sales drove growth for SCE, and the publisher noted that the stalwart PlayStation 2 continues to show signs of age, seeing a slip in year-over-year sales. Despite the slip, the publisher noted that PS2 software and hardware sales continue to contribute to the games division's operating income, which stood at ¥5.4 billion ($50 million) on the quarter, up from a loss of ¥29.2 billion ($270 million) a year ago.

Global quarterly sales for the PlayStation 3 hit 1.56 million, a 123 percent increase over a year prior and 260,000 units more than the 1.3 million Xbox 360s Microsoft sold during the same period. Sony has now sold more than 14.4 million PS3s globally since its November 2006 launch. In comparison, Microsoft has sold over 20 million Xbox 360s internationally since its November 2005 launch as of last week. Nintendo, which will release its quarterly financials tomorrow, reported 24.4 million Wiis were sold worldwide from November 2006 to the end of March 2008.

While not quite as dramatic as the PS3's gains, PSP sales rose 75 percent to 3.72 million units for the quarter. PS2 sales slid 43 percent, down to 1.51 million units for the three-month period.

But while SCE soared, Sony Corp's overall revenues were grounded. For the quarter, Sony saw revenues of ¥1.98 trillon ($18.3 billion), a marginal .1 percent gain over the ¥1.97 trillon ($18.2 billion) posted over the same period of time a year ago. Underlining that stalled momentum, Sony said that net income was down a staggering 47.4 percent over a year prior, falling from ¥66.3 billion ($613 million) to ¥34.9 billion ($323 million).

Sony divisions suffering most significantly were its film and electronics segments. Facing a tough comparison against last year's megablockbuster Spider-Man 3, Sony noted that the Adam Sandler-led You Don't Mess With the Zohan was the biggest contributor to the division's ¥159.6 billion ($1.5 billion). That tally represents a 31 percent year-over-year decrease in sales, and as financial news service Bloomberg notes, the ¥8.3 billion ($76.7 million) loss is the division's first in seven quarters.

Sony's electronics business fell on equally hard times. While the division saw revenues grow a diminutive .7 percent to ¥1.4 trillon ($12.9 billion), operating income was way down, falling 57 percent to ¥44 billion ($406 million). Sony attributed the yen's growing strength against the dollar as a primary cause for the tumble, also noting increased price competition and a decrease in equity for its Sony Ericsson mobile division. These causes offset gains made by the company's flagship Bravia LCD televisions, which saw increased sales and profitability in all regions, the company said.

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For all of you who are saying the 360 is outselling the PS3 currently. You do realize you are wrong, right...PS3 is still, as of July 29, outselling Xbox 360. Not to burst your bubble or anything.

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SalarianChemist i think a controller named the Dual Shock 3 would disagree with your comment that the ps3 lacks rumble

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The article is about Sony's profits and what not.. How did things turn into a huge Soul Caliber 4 discussion? lol

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systemfan1188 "I think little big planet comes out in Sept? It gets sooo much attention but looks completley stupid." Because all other games make perfect sense, shooting aliens (RFOM), playing pretend soldiers like little boys (COD4), taking control of a plumber and jumping on mushrooms and enemies heads (Mario) or being a man/demon hybrid hacking up make beleive monsters (DMC) - most people i know play games as an escape, Little Big Planet looks a good bet to be excellent - for those with imaginations and a rounded sense of fun, for the rest I guess it will be "stupid" By the way, before anyone gets the wrong idea, i love the games i have mentioned above.

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ok salarian chemist is on fkn heroin if he thinks the xboxs d-pad id good for fighting games the 360s d pad is complete ****

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SalarianChemist=Fanboy if you dont like PS3 don't read things about PS3

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SALARIAN FAILS EPICALLY 1. dpad << LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> 2. Who did Team XBOX confirm it with exactly Kotaku? 3. Posting a Soul Caliber ploy on Sony revenue article???? FAIL

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I'm getting my facts from reliable sources: TeamXbox said in their review today what other websites had been saying for quite some time: The Xbox 360 version of Soul Caliber 4 will be getting Darth Vader as Downloadable Content. Previously, other websites had said that Vader would be available "As downloadable content that may or may not be free." They also said that the PS3 version may or may not initially see a download of Yoda. That was the entire reason why the Xbox 360 version was shown with the download, not the PS3 version. Also, all Xbox 360 games are upconverted to 1080p, because the Xbox 360 has a built in chip that can provide that feature. Playstation 3 does not have a similar chip, which means that game remains at the native resolution of 720p. Also, the PS3 controller does not Rumble, while the Xbox 360 version does. PS3 does not have Achievements, and Xbox 360 does. Xbox 360 games let you play custom music on the background, while PS3 games don't. And very few PS3 games let you talk while playing, while every Xbox 360 game lets you talk while playing. That's where I got my facts.

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SalarianChemist do you even know anything about the PS3?

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Miss_Wacy said "360 has a rubbish D pad." Ugh! I know! It boggles the mind that they haven't fixed that yet. I'd buy new controllers for my 360 if they addressed this issue.

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SalarianChemist There has also been leaks that the ps3 will have yoda, why are you here spouting about upconverts? Upconverted 1080p isn't has good as normal 1080p, also the Ps3 has rumbles and who knows is namco bandai is working on implementing Trophies in a patch, and that video is still technically rumor

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SalarianChemist: 360 has a rubbish D pad, your a fanboy, IGN comfirmed ps3 looks much better then the 360 version

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salarian........where r u getting ur facts???? none of what ur saying is listed or true....u sound like a paranoid little fanboy

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This is merely a REFLECTION OF THE TIMES that we are growing in. While our economy is suffering and the dollar looses its value, Video Games across the XBOX,Wii,PS3 spectrum are exploding and the interest in this entertainment medium is surpassing all others at an alarming rate.

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Soul Caliber 4 Confirmed: Darth Vader is in the Xbox 360 version. "Teamxbox confirmed in their review of Soul Caliber 4 that Darth Vader will be available as "DLC" (Downloadable Content) in the Xbox 360 version of the game. There is no reason for me to consider the PS3 version now. Xbox 360 has the graphics edge, since it can be upconverted to 1080p, while the Playstation 3 version stays at only 720p. Xbox 360 has a great 8-way D-pad, that we know works great in fighting games like Virtua Figher 5 and Dead or Alive 4. Xbox 360 has Achievements and Rumbles and lets you talk while playing...PS3 doesn't have any of those features. I am so happy that Vader is in the Xbox 360 version, because I would have been sacrificing a lot just to get Vader on the PS3. Thank you Namco!" Now, the question is, why did the website called 1up delete the comments of people who reported this fact! I certainly hope that Sony isn't paying major websites to keep it a secret! _________________________ Update & Response: According to what I read, it said, "Yoda may or may not be available as DLC for the Playstation 3, and if he is it will likely not be initially available when the Darth Vader download is released for the Xbox 360." That's the whole reason why the video of Darth Vader vs Yoda is with the Xbox 360 version of the game, not the Playstation 3 version. Plus, the Xbox 360 version is upconverted to 1080p resolution, while the PS3 version stays at only 720p resolution. And the Xbox 360 version Rumbles, let's you talk while playing, and has Achievements. Those are things that would be foolish for people to not take advantage of. Now that it has been confirmed the Xbox 360 version of Soul Caliber 4 has both characters, there is no question that the Xbox 360 version is the one to get.

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grognard said "I base my forecast on Sony's and Microsoft's financial reports, not fanboy sites like VGChartz." And I've told you before that that's fine but obviously there must be something to vgchartz.com's numbers to be almost bang on the Sony and Microsoft's official numbers and to be used by such publications as Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, and The New York Times. Besides, if you're going by the official numbers then you'll agree with my assessment, because that's where my numbers are coming from. So far in calendar 2008, up till the end of June the PS3 has outsold the 360 by approx 1.5 million consoles, based on official numbers. Now continue that out the rest of this year, next year and what do you get? You get the PS3 hitting parity with the 360 by about the end of 2009. If you're using the "official" numbers, how are you different from me?

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Mystoksor Agree with you one hundred percent!

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you know why they losing money why should i buy bravia TV for 3000$ when i can buy better TV for less than that

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@salarianchemist:thank got 360 users get vader. PS3 still needs yoda though; what idiot decided that the two jedi in the game shouldn't be able to fight each other -_-

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SalarianChemist maybe because its confirmed Yoda is in the ps3 version as DLC? nice job trying to sway people by not reporting this little fact

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@Anime Gamer Maybe you should of looked at the link i posted rather then come with the lare because if you had you would of seen the 360 out sold the PS3 last week. And previous weeks where the PS3 has beaten the 360 it is by 20-80k max. Again at that rate it will take years to claw back the gap. Those are the true facts and the true figures. If you disagree with them then take it up with the people who track/report them, however they will probably just think your a crazed fanboy or something.

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Sony is about to swat that bothersome fly called Xbox 360.

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anime_gamer007 i think he was probably referring to this week where the Price drop pushed sales in America to just push past the ps3 worldwide, in the other territories its barely a contest and with America it only inched out a 7k unit worldwide victory

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ShadoweaverCode said "Not the Blu-Ray capabilities, i'm talking about the massive let down of gamers that were expecting the next massive PS2, only to find out that Sony went more with movie watching then having a great gaming machine. It's fine though because Xbox360 was there to pick up their slack in the gaming industry." Apparently that wasn't necessary, given that the PS3 is selling much faster than the 360 did (just look at how long it took the 360 to hit the 14 million mark compared to the PS3). I think you're revising history more than a little here.

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I want a Bravia LCD televisions and You Dont Mess with the ZOhan was a seriously unny movie, lo!!

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OMG sony is losing money in a sh*tty economy selling hardware that's cheaper than the sum of its manufactured parts?!?!?! Quit fueling the console war with pointless, obvious articles like this.

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Good to know the PS3 is gaining space. What we need is a good RPG for it.

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Yuck_Too said "Now you're ignoreing the fact that in the last 3 months the PS3 outsold the 360 by only 260,000 units to that would show drastically slowing PS3 sales compared to the 6-month numbers." I'm ignoring it because it happens every year...console sales slow in the summer, then pick up again in the fall leading into the holiday season. That's how it's been for years now. Also, these are shipped numbers and Sony has been ramping down production and shipment of the 40gb PS3's preparing for their replacements coming next month. I'd be very surprised if this number doesn't dramatically climb next quarter when the new 80GB consoles begin their push to retail.

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I'm sure sony will turn a profit by the end of the generation, but it was a dumb decision to put the fates of PS3 and blu-ray in the same boat. Not only because if one failed, so would the other (and in turn, sony as well), but because to make it buyable they need to sell it for quite a bit less than what it costs to make. "We'll just make up for it with game sales" says sony; not going to happen if everyone's buying it solely for its capabilities as a blu-ray player.

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"There hasn't been anything good that's exclusive for it laltey. PS3 had MGS back in June " Oh my god I remember that. Man was that before or after Bush took office?

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@ Makaatsu Actually the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide as of now. I believe it is YOU who needs to check the sales figures. I think you're thinking of total global sales in which case, yes the 360 has sold more.

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systemfan1188 actually theres not much in september for the Ps3, they do have Socom and LBP in october then R2 in november and then there is wild cards like WIpeout HD and the multiplats, exclusive wise the ps3 has more this holiday season and LBP looks stupid? thats a genre breaking game! How they used it for Sony's conference was absolutely brilliant and really shows how the game can be used outside of just pure gaming. The fact that the lips of the Sackboys sync with headset chat means it will be easy to make machinema(think i spelled that right) and it just looks fun. Im sorry of its not dark or bloody enough for you

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so...Sony has 6mill left to close the gap? i give it until holiday season 2009 before Sony takes that lead back. i don't think either will catch the Wii any time soon but that's more of a $200 family toy than a gaming console.

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Hurrah?

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Obviously companies will cut costs as time goes on, MS made $426 million of profit this ending fiscal year on their entertainment division.

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"It's hard to factor in the slowing sales of the X360 (especially since I think we might have an uptick in sales in the next couple of months with the temp. price reduction on the low-end X360)." 360 will have higher sales this fall due to games: Fable II, Fall Out 3 (I know..non exlcusive but still), and still have Gears of War 2 in November. Plus the holiday season is coming up as well. 360 will see sales pickup. There hasn't been anything good that's exclusive for it laltey. PS3 had MGS back in June - that was a big jump in their sales right there. It will mellow out until they have another big title release...Resistance 2 I thinks the next thing for them...exclusive wise. Actually I think little big planet comes out in Sept? It gets sooo much attention but looks completley stupid.

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i wish i had a PS3 :(

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Personally i don't care much i own both 360 and ps3, sure its a good thing for sony but i still think sony has to think about its game selection for ps3 (cuz 360 does) don't get it wrong im not going for 360 i got my ps3 first but than i got 360 cuz of its game selection All i want is to have great time while playing games doesn't matter on which system.

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I have always been a critic of the pS3 and I have always owned one since launch. I now actually buy more games on my PS3 than my Xbox for the simple fact that the graphics are better. You can argue that till you are blue in the face, but it is reality Xbox fanboys and I have 3 Xbox's, 2 pros and 1 Elite. I have liked the changes that the PS3 has been going through and appreciate the better availability of games for the system, which will only get better and I am very excited for Killzone 2 and Resistance 2. That alone is a huge reason to own one...

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Yeah what imperial agent said. Sorry to state the brutally obvious but the ps3 is also outselling the ps2, that doesnt mean that ps3 is more prosperous nor popular. Just because PS2 came out a fair while ago. Same goes for 360. Fanboyism is really , really stupid.

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@Darkride Think you need to check the current sales figures my friend. The 360 is outselling the PS3 worlwide currently. So that means the gap between the 360 and the PS3 is increasing. You imply it will take a year for PS3 to catch up, that is impossible as they would have to be selling more each month by 583k a month without the 360 selling 1 console for the next 12 months. Impossible and deluded. << LINK REMOVED >>

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@darkride66 - I base my forecast on Sony's and Microsoft's financial reports, not fanboy sites like VGChartz. According to Sony's OWN sales projections they will not catch up to 360 this gen. Stringer has made it perfectly clear that they will not sacrifice profit margin for market share and expects worldwide sales of PS3 to be essentially flat this fiscal year. I thought you believed everything Sony told you...

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Slowing sales of the 360? Umm...did you all miss the same bit of news where MS said sales of the 360 have increased 34% over the same time frame last year?

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360 sales will slow down inevitably, duh! everyone who wants one most likely already bought one! not even the universe can expand forever.

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darkride66 posted: "You're all ignoring the fact that PS3 sales are growing while 360 sales growth has slowed." That's true and that's why I specifically stated in my post "If these averages hold up". Averages are tricky things, no? LOL.... It's hard to factor in the slowing sales of the X360 (especially since I think we might have an uptick in sales in the next couple of months with the temp. price reduction on the low-end X360). I, personally really don't care who sells more this gen. (although it's an interesting topic). I have my PS3, I'm happy with it, and there are lots of games that I'm looking forward to playing (both that are already out and coming out in the future). 8)

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darkride - What possible negative things have been said about the PS3's Blu-Ray capabilities? Not the Blu-Ray capabilities, i'm talking about the massive let down of gamers that were expecting the next massive PS2, only to find out that Sony went more with movie watching then having a great gaming machine. It's fine though because Xbox360 was there to pick up their slack in the gaming industry. More and more you hear about Xbox360's being used for gaming. Even G4 admitted after the Sony conference that PS3's are doing great things for Blu-ray and that MS had the best press conference for the gaming world.

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grognard said " Wii will win by a large margin, followed by 360 and PS3 in third." How do you figure that one? At the current rate the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide it should overtake the 360 next year, or early 2010. What do you think is going to change in the next year so that this doesn't happen?

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--darkride66 -- Now you're ignoreing the fact that in the last 3 months the PS3 outsold the 360 by only 260,000 units so that would show drastically slowing PS3 sales compared to the 6-month numbers. 1.5 Million over 6 months: First 3 months = 1.24 Million followed by Second 3 months = 260,000 With that trend what will the next 3-months bring.

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It's interesting to note that PlayStation 3 hardware sales dropped to 1.56 from 2.33 million units, compared to its previous period. At the current pace it will only take PS3 about 20 more quarters to close the sales gap. ;) The story for this cycle has been told. Wii will win by a large margin, followed by 360 and PS3 in third. The good news is they should all end up being profitable at the end (Nintendo and MS already are and Sony is getting there).

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