Splinter Cell's complexity hurting its popularity, says Raymond

complex?? Nah. You just need proper timing and good decision skill to go through your objectives. That is what Splinter Cell IS. If people want to go gun blazing, just play COD.

Sadly, I do agree with this it seems most folks like to jump in and start blowing things away then thinking / planning about the approach first. I've always liked the SC / Ghost Recon series because of the planning aspect since it seems to me more realistic. I agree that if SC - Blacklist contains elements that also make it appealing to the itchy trigger finger folks then the game should do well.

This franchise has become too simple.

dumbest article I've seen on here yet....but there sadly is truth behind these comments as pathetic as that sounds.

never cared for splinter cell to begin with, but her statement upsets me.

Splinter Cell too complex? I thought they actually simplified SC with the release of Conviction.

This is ridiculously funny I'd say. If complexity is the case, just shut this brand down and go making more Assassin's Creed games, for the leading characters in that franchise are more appealing to those who are used to these "simpler" games.

Please keep making complex games. I like complex and difficult games. Games that make you think, that force you to plan. Games today are too easy. In my day, we had thinking mans games!!!! God I feel so old right now. I actually used the phrase "in my day".

Wasn't Splinter Cell Conviction this already dumbed down to a fully linear "kill 1 alone guy silently -> mark and execute 3 guys in the next room -> repeat" third person shooter with this exact, convenient level setup all the way through the campaign ?
What "complexity" is she talking about ?

I was only playing like 4 or 5 missions over at a friend's place, because I'd never buy it because of uPlay and UbiSoft DRM nonsense, but what I saw of it was majorly unimpressive when I compare it to the vastly better, older Splinter Cell titles.

I also highly doubt that this new soon to be released Splinter Cell Blacklist will bring any new fresh wind in, make it any more challenging or add actual replay value. (Mod tools, map editor, mission editor ? No ? Then get lost)

Hell, even Stealth Bastard Deluxe has more complexity and gameplay value than all recent Splinter Cell games combined.

yeah she sure is conviction was tough as hell!fail to plan ur next move and u pay dearly!but i loved that game for sure!looking forward to black list!

We have enough games out in the market for the short attention span run and gun crowd please dont take whats left of this franchise and dumb it down just to capture more of the market, save something for those of us who actually enjoy having to do a little thinking and planning.

Splinter cell has gone down hill since chaos theory. It had a great campaign and the best xbox live experience that I have played. Going to dumb it down more? Yep, another SC game I won't buy. Which is sad because chaos theory is my all time favorite game.

Its funny that games like these are rated m but they market them to 12 year old kids, i think splinter cell has already been dumbed down way too fucking much.

How do they pretend to "recapture" the feeling of the first games if they're already bitching about the complexity??. Who the hell put moronic ppl as head of an studio? Raymond is just a pretty face without brains, she thinks we all gamers are a bunch of drooling fat idiots. They just don't understand that this shit of dumbing down games are killing the industry, you can't have unique games, everything is reduced to overly easy mechanics and qte's, "hard modes" that are a joke, and bunch of multiplayer dlc and short SP campaigns

Dear god, the last thing we need is a game that requires people to think! When I sit down to play a stealth game I dont want to have to make decisions. I need the game to tell me exactly what to do and when to do it. I don't have time to be making all these decisions on my own.

Are people actually excited about Blacklist?, i've read a few comments saying how they're hoping is recaptures what Splinter Cell once was which i find really funny.

Since Micheal Ironside is no longer voicing Sam Fisher which is for me a big part of the game, and because of that i dont feel like this is a Splinter Cell game at all, but instead just some knockoff trying to copy a great franchise.

Im confused, so shes saying to succeed games have to copy what most other games do, instead of trying to make your game unique and stand out from the crowd she wants SC to blend in and become as generic as most of the other games.

And anyone who found any of the previous SC games complex in anyway should stay away from games with an actual plot in them in general.

Uh, I hate to be that guy, but Conviction was not "complex". You literally just marked people and the game would hold your hand for the rest of it. I liked Conviction but it is NOT complex whatsoever. I highly doubt Blacklist will even be different.

@PSYCHOV3N0M Once upon a time I seriously had crush on her .

Just one more thing

Jade Raymond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y3FzVQi-R8

Splinter Cell used to be a thinking game. At least till Conviction came along, which while good, took it to the action route. Double Agent, conceptually, was really the pinnacle of the Splinter Cell series. Let's hope Blacklist really brings the super stealth back !!!

Oh, I get it. She's trying to create buzz because there has been very little about Splinter Cell as of late. I think the last one didn't sell well, but I am not positive. If I am wrong, hate all you want Splinter Cell fans.

I loves me some complexity in games. That is why RPGs are my favorites. I will defend us gamers and say they are talking about the general population who are dumb, not the majority of us. At least that's what I would like to think.

Call of Duty keeps it simple. Call of Duty sells great. Therefore EVERYTHING needs to be dumbed down. Who can argue with that?

splinter cell especially chaos theory was well balanced, it gave you everything you needed to be the perfect hunter in the shadows. all but fear in the enemy's eyes like batman.

I came in here to see if there was a picture of Jade Raymond. Alas, there isn't :-\

I do have to say that I have been somewhat disappointed at the direction the gameplay headed after SC: Double Agent. The latest installment, Conviction, was too easy and too far from its traditional stealth concept. BUT, I am definitely going to check out Blacklist.

AC2 was fun and kinda challenging. It was the first AC I played. AC:Brotherhood was mind numblingly easy. Catering to the lowest common denominator is fine from a business standpoint, but I have no respect for those developers since I'd personally like something more challenging for $60.

I loved AC2 and haven't bought an Ubisoft game since.

I also like the original SC's back in the day. The single player experiences more recently have been embarrassingly short and make it seem like the developers are just going through the motions when making the newer games.

Ubisoft isn't quite as bad as EA or Acticvision, but they're quickly closing in. $$ > quality.

@AncientDozer Really? She just called you dumb and you are still saying no Ironside no deal?

Why do I see this as "These games that make people think need to die because we need to make games easier and people need to become dumb." It's like, **** money man, give me a game I'd be proud to play because of the challenge it may give me. All Call of Duty games from now on should have the same difficulty settings as they always have, but make easy as easy as Veteran; that'd be cool. I'm just thinking how this really seems like another step back for humanity.

The fundamental problem is that game studios, at the end of the day are businesses, and a business is there to make money, unfortunately mindless games like COD have set the standard for successful sales. Now every money-hungry pig publisher wants to transform every game into a run and gun spuzz fest to chase that COD dollar, so we lose awesome games like Splinter Cell because mindless morons and adolescent kids have contributed to high sales in games with no substance, which dictates the market trend. Splinter Cell could be as awesome as it used to be and make more money than if they implement a watered down COD element to it, but these greedy idiots are too stupid and just think they can make the next MW beater, which ends up falling flat. So every game is now infected with some degree of COD and they wonder why sales suck.

As a gamer, I am insulted. She is basically saying that gamers are dumb, and that only dumbed down, linear games sell...

You guys Ruined your franchise with double agent and conviction. I loved the first 3 splinter cells (Chaos Theory is my favorite). Pandora Tomorrow had an epic multiplayer, but you guys tried to fix it when it wasn't broken and made it worse. Those games were challenging and unforgiving, but I still loved them. Most developers feel they got to dumb down there game to make it more accessible forgetting what made there game popular in the first place.

you know this make me think the complexity hurt game sales why? we are some kind of dumbass that just pick easy games?