Stop Trying To Make Destiny

Destiny itself sucks

I think the problem with gamepass in general is the day 1 model. They gave up the traditional sales model for subscription service, which resulted in lost revenue and more importantly PROFIT. They then are pressured to make up the profit with the GaaS model being implemented in a bunch of these games. I'm not going to say that GaaS is a bad thing or a good thing, but publishers that have no or very little experience with it should not be jumping right into it, at least not with their biggest games. Redfall and halo infinite aren't titles where you experiment with.

The focus is lost now with the subscription model, and hopefully they figure it out. Because eventhough gamepass is amazing and I want it to continue...you have to be realistic.

The one good thing from all this is that with these blunders, at least bethesda and 343 both gained valuable experience and will only grow from this. Even rare has a bunch of experience with GaaS and MMO with sea of thieves.

Agree to disagree, I played D1 from day 1 to D2 release and I loved the game before the taken king even before the first expansion too because I had a clan which made the entire experience amazing and fun. D2 however DIED around 2nd expansion , clans got disbanded and so on. I'm amazed it is still releasing content, tried to get back in but then realising it is waaaay too many expansion to BUY to get up to speed and no I don't like skipping content like many nowadays do.

old destiny good, new destiny not so much. I might even tryout redfall if it's on gamepass if you now are comparing it with OLD destiny.

sorry free to play games like destiny are the future, so much so that destiny was forced to become a free to play games.

heres why

1 you know how betas are free? well free to play came can release in beta and get free testers and data to help with development.

2 more people will play a bad free game than pay for a bad game you have to buy.

3 ea itself probably makes more money on mobile sports games than its console sales.more people are playing fifa on mobile than on there consoles any given hour.

4there are to many many games that failed in the past because they cost money but they were good and never got a fan base. a game like league would fail if it was 19.99 at launch.

5. f2p saved the gaming industry there are to many games for them all to cost money. f2p is kinda saying”we think our game is so good, we think your willing to buy a few things to support the game in the cash shop”

instead of being like cyber punk and promising the world and delivering poop for 69.99

Never could get into Destiny. My son normally loves those types of games and he couldn't get into it either. Its one of those love or hate games I guess.

If as a developer you have to clone other people's work, maybe you're in the wrong business. When I first heard about Redfall, I thought it was going to be more like The Witcher. Then when I saw gameplay, it looked like it was going to be more like Left4Dead. Then it comes out and I'm told its more like Destiny or Borderlands but a really bad Destiny or Borderlands. No idea how anyone could have thought that a game based on vampires would make for a good looter shooter but they were clearly wrong. I remember when I started playing Outer Worlds and a Destiny like menu popped up for armor, weapons, consumables, mats etc. and I was like, ahh shit. That garbage got old long ago. Please stop doing that and come up with your own new ideas.

" Stop trying to make Destiny"

Proceeds to promote the F out of every single one of them...

Mogan is on the hunt so watch yo moufs against Destiny

On a serious note. Borderlands was a game that kind of brought looter shooters to the spotlights.

Bungie had better ideas on how to capitalize on this genre.

Also, looter shooters were cool like in 2017. Now we are past that and should focus on new trending ideas like open world souls-like a la Elden Ring and The Lords of the Fallen. Or more Action oriented games like Sifu which also was a huge success.

Destiny is every developers wet dream lol. First you had to pay for the base game, then the next expansion and then the next two expansions on top of that. Just like the first game, it costs over $120 to play Destiny fully through.

The obsession with online games started when they saw how much money Fornite made selling cosmetics to naive kids. Way more money for way less effort. No wonder they keep trying to replicate Fortnite.

It's funny that you talk about not chasing trends while chasing the trend of comparing any game like this to Destiny. The odd thing is, from my experience and reading others the game is much more like Borderlands then it is Destiny.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but the cursor thing was popularized by No Man Sky, which came out a year before Destiny. A lot of games suddenly started using it after 2016, and I have no idea why. I'd really appreciate if all these games gave us the option of a traditional highlighter system as well, even if it's not the default.

How they can redeem this game in 1 week:

1 add local drop in play,

2 have a player turn infected if hit by a legendary vampire and join the story mission stopping you, they level up faster, but die when the sun rises or when you stealth kill them instantly,

3 fix the PFS counter to 60fps.

Ah honestly I dunno if they can save this game, it's looking like that arma 3 style Swedish robot apocalypse game, at first it was cool, but was poorly made, but high quality world.

The next is back4blood that games on life support solely because it's world building isn't interesting and it's bosses are sponge buckets.

The only redeemer was evolve it got alot of hate but was interesting.

The slew of new shows on this site is a breath of fresh air and something that has been much needed -- and lacking -- in gaming journalism for years. I really hope Gamespot can refocus on the core competency of analyzing the gaming industry and editorializing it with insightful takes. Minimize the social activism and cater to the core audience: gamers. After all, this is why we visit the site in the first place.

Cheers on the new direction. I hope it can be sustained.

It's a genre based entirely around peer pressure... maybe people are growing tired of it. They incentivize farming for loot indefinitely just to keep up with your friends who only play that game. It's Farmville with guns. Multiplayer games should have the players working together towards a common and meaningful goal, not just beeg number.

Love this!

So the trend messed up Suicide Squad and Redfall. Not great...

Meanwhile the last game I paid had a classic and cohesive campaign. I don't want anything else really.
Maybe a fun coop experience that doesn't try to become a job. Killing Floor 2 managed to do that for some time.