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What Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker And Knights Of The Old Republic Have In Common

The characters of Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker have a fair amount in common with Revan.

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker has a whole lot of plot threads to wrap up with, many of which were first spun in The Force Awakens. It also introduces a whole lot of new elements and ideas--most notably, the return of the series' ultimate evil, Sith Lord and Galactic Emperor Sheev Palpatine. We've known for a while that Palpatine would be making a return thanks to trailers, but exactly how he'd come back and what he'd be up to has been a mystery.

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Now that Rise of Skywalker is out in theaters, we have our answer: Palpatine apparently survived the destruction of the Death Star II back in Return of the Jedi and has been working behind the scenes for decades, instigating the rise of the First Order and trying to regain his ridiculous amount of power. While the First Order has been formidable in its own right, we learn in The Rise of Skywalker that Palpatine has more tricks up his sleeve.

But Palpatine's return isn't a new idea. In fact, the plot of The Rise of Skywalker has a whole lot in common with other Star Wars stories, ranging from the original films to old Expanded Universe comics and novels--but none more so than Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Though the story of the 2003 video game takes place thousands of years before Palpatine's rise, a bunch of the plot points of KOTOR and TROS are pretty much the same. Allow me to explain.

KOTOR starts in the aftermath of a major war that has devastated the Galactic Republic--the Mandalorian Wars. Those spooky Boba Fett-looking warriors (a tribe of which is central to the Disney+ series The Mandalorian) raised a massive army and nearly brought the Republic down in a horrific conflict that devastated countless worlds. When things were at their most dire, a group of Jedi led by a knight named Revan and his friend, Malak, broke with the Jedi Order, which had chosen to remain neutral. The Jedi joined the Republic to defeat the Mandalorians, but afterward, Revan and Malak disappeared into the Unknown Regions. Eventually, they returned, but had fallen to the Dark Side, and led a massive Sith Armada bent on destroying the Republic and taking over the galaxy. It turns out, the pair discovered an ancient alien space station called the Star Forge, capable of creating an entire fleet of ships in an incredibly short period.

The Star Forge made Revan and Malak powerful enough to threaten the entire galaxy.
The Star Forge made Revan and Malak powerful enough to threaten the entire galaxy.

That story is a whole lot like the setup for The Rise of Skywalker, in which Kylo Ren discovers the legendary Sith planet, Exegol (also in the Unknown Regions), and discovers it's where Emperor Palpatine has been holed up, marshaling his strength. As with Revan and Malak and the Star Forge, Palpatine has managed to use Exegol to create an entire fleet of Star Destroyers that could smack down the entire galaxy.

In KOTOR, the player spends most of the game trying to dig up information on and then find the Star Forge, which is pretty much what goes on in The Rise of Skywalker. Rey, Poe, and Finn travel across the galaxy in search of information on Exegol, which they obtain from a Sith dagger. That leads them to an artifact called the Sith Wayfinder, which provides a map to Exegol and the giant fleet Palpatine has waiting there.

KOTOR's protagonist is a nascent Jedi who has visions of Revan and discovers information about the Star Forge, and near the end of the game, turns out to be none other than Revan himself (or herself, depending on the character you create). The Jedi had brainwashed the injured Revan after Malak tried to kill him, intent on using his power against his former apprentice.

That's not unlike the arcs of both Kylo Ren and Rey in The Rise of Skywalker. Ren is a fallen Jedi who discovers a ridiculous Sith power, but who eventually is turned back to the Light Side to battle to stop a former evil ally in Palpatine. You could also liken Revan to Rey, who, like Revan, discovers she has the Dark Side in her past and the potential to go bad. The Rise of Skywalker reveals that Rey is the granddaughter of Palpatine, and that information acts as a shadow over her, often making her wonder if she won't fall to the Dark Side herself.

Palpatine's return echoes the idea that villains are really working to stop a bigger, badder Sith threat.
Palpatine's return echoes the idea that villains are really working to stop a bigger, badder Sith threat.

Some of the story beats of KOTOR and Revan are picked up in the MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic, creating even more parallels. It turns out that the thing that drove Revan and Malak to the Dark Side in the first place was not the ridiculous amount of power they discovered in the Star Forge, or the horrors they saw during the Mandalorian Wars. Instead, it was something worse: The pair discovered a secret, immortal Sith emperor out in the vast reaches of space, who was himself marshaling power for an attack on the galaxy. That's basically what's going on in The Old Republic, but if and when you find Revan in that game, you learn that he and Malak meant to take over the galaxy partially so they could strengthen up its defenses against the much bigger threat in the Sith Emperor. That's at least similar to what's up with Kylo Ren--he might be trying to tighten his grip on the galaxy, but he's also spending most of The Rise of Skywalker trying to turn Rey to his side so that the two can defeat the worse threat represented by Palpatine and his armada.

It's not a perfect comparison, but there are a lot of similarities between where The Rise of Skywalker goes in its plot, and the path KOTOR trod back in 2003. As mentioned, this isn't the only old Star Wars story The Rise of Skywalker draws on--a revitalized Palpatine who can transfer his spirit between bodies was the drive behind the Dark Empire comics in the 1990s, for instance. But while most Star Wars video game plots either just borrow the plots of the films or have nothing much to do with them, The Rise of Skywalker's similarities to KOTOR might be the closest the Star Wars saga has come to doing things the other way around--the films being influenced by the games, for once.

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how u gonna mention kotor elements and not mention the force link idea that they started???

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I dont think anything in the last movie had an original ideal to be honest.

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The Knights of the Fallen Empire/Eternal Throne expansions in SWTOR as somewhat similar to RoS in that the story they tell is very obviously not what was originally planned when the previous story content was released. They try to setup and justify a major change to that era's history, that didn't have any foreshadowing, and it comes off pretty sloppy. Even though KotFE/ET manage to tell a pretty interesting story, for an MMO, there's a lot of hand waving of logic and hurried explanations to justify the new story's setup and why nobody'd ever heard of anything from it before.

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These guys actually liked The Last Jedi? Personally, I liked Rice of Skywalker better. It wasn't a great movie, but certainly more enjoyable than Last Jedi.

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If only the games or novels had more influence over the movies...a movie version of the admiral Thrawn trilogy would have been so much cooler...

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So, the new trilogy started out by recycling the plot of the original trilogy, and finished by recycling the plot of the games? Why am I not surprised. Tell Disney to just give me my novels and go away, please.

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Kotor had the best storyline of any star wars media. The latest trilogy was just boring and bland. None of the characters stood out.

Hell... all they needed to do was have HK-47 show up in these movies and i'd have been gushing over them like a teenage girl. But ultimately, I think Star Wars is no longer for me.

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I mean, Rise of Skywalker did kinda feel like it had a video game plot.

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Like KOTOR 2, it was released rushed and incomplete?

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@Thanatos2k: Now why did you go insult KotoR2 like that? Comparing it to any of these Star Wars movies... *shakes head*

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@Barighm: Yeah KOTOR 2 eventually got finished through fan efforts, but that terrible movie never will.

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@Thanatos2k: It wasn't fan efforts, it was the actual developers releasing patches post-launch. Obsidian was forced to release a rushed product because of lucas arts deadlines.

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@scarlloty: Uh no, the restored content mod was not made by the developers.

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@Barighm: I mean, KotOR 2 WAS rushed and incomplete at launch. It took a bunch of patching to make that game good. It was really good once the patching happened, but it was still a really rough launch. On PC, anyway, I never played the Xbox version.

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@mogan: KotoR2 was actually a respectable product, though. Do I really need to use /joke tags? Sheesh.

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@Barighm: It was a respectable product after a bunch of patching, sure.

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Bit of stretch the more I think about this comparison it just highlights how KOTOR did everything better narrative wise.

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@gamingdevil800:

I cry every time I hear Bioware pitched KotoR 3 to EA (apparently a few times now). Heck, it doesn't even have to be KotoR 3. It could just be a very similar RPG in the new universe.

I suppose I could play The Old Republic but...I don't wanna.

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@Barighm: With 6 to 7 years to develop the monstrosity known as Anthem and the massive failure of Mass Effect: Andromeda with a franchise that could literally print money. Why would anyone at EA listen to Bioware?

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@xADx: Anthem is getting a reboot and they've started pre-production on a new Mass Effect. Andromeda wasn't really that bad. It was just unpolished...and kind of dumb, but it played well.

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@xADx: They pitched KotOR 3 years and years ago, dude. Way before Anthem or Andromeda.

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