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Xbox One Getting Free TV DVR Functionality in 2016, Chatpad Announced

Long-awaited feature coming next year; new chatpad accessory compatible with all Xbox One controllers arrives in November.

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Today during Microsoft's Gamescom briefing, the company announced that the Xbox One is getting full TV DVR functionality next year. This is not much of a surprise, as it was heavily rumored back in May.

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Currently, the Xbox One allows users to watch live TV, but the system itself does not support recording functionality. Instead, that process is handled by your existing cable box.

That's all changing in 2016, however, when the new TV DVR functionality for Xbox One goes live.

Microsoft's Mike Ybarra stressed that the TV DVR functionality will not negatively impact the overall Xbox One technical performance. Xbox One TV DVR will also work with the Xbox App SmartGlass app to allow users to schedule recordings on the go.

Xbox One TV DVR even works with Windows 10, allowing you to watch your recordings on a PC or any other connected device. The service will be available subscription-free next year.

Also during Microsoft's Gamescom briefing, the company announced a new Xbox One chatpad accessory. It works with all Xbox One controllers and will launch in November for $35.

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This is cool, wish the PS4 had this. The play TV kit worked well on PS3, and with the standby function it would be a nice to have

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@barcaazul: maybe they will I hope so

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I wonder...how does this work in conjunction with game streaming? Could I be recording a TV program while doing game streaming to my PC in another room? Erm, wait. I think when doing game streaming, you can't do sh!t else with the console.

500 GB hard drive...how much programming could fit on that? Along with all your games? Oh, yeah...I guess there's that too. Oh, and it doesn't fully replace my cable box anyway.

So, how is this feature really all that wonderful again? Apparently, Microsoft is still trying to cater to an audience that doesn't use their product to begin with.

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@otterbee: Expanding the Xbox One's storage capacity is as easy as plugging in a USB 3.0 hard drive. Plug a 5 TB drive into your 500 GB console and you've now got a 5.5 TB console.

They've already made clear that the use of an external drive is recommend both for capacity and to separate game operations from video operations.

Why would it need to replace your cable box? This is imposed by the cable company and not under Microsoft's control. If a later version support cable/satellite and not just OTA, it would mean you no longer need to pay the cable company for a DVR instead of a plain cable box. If a USB CableCard accessory were produced, then the cable box could be eliminated, leaving just the minimal rental cost of the CableCard.

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@otterbee: how big is a normal DVR box? Also there is no comment on using external HD or replacing the internal HD for something larger.

While companies have not fully replaced there boxes yet there is apps for Uverse, Fios, and TWC of I am not mistaken. Not to mention this allows you to replace your DVR with simply a basic digital box.

This is great innovation and could see use with SlingTV and possibly other options as well.

By the way I don't personally stream games but I would assume that the TV app would have to be active in order for this to work so not sure if streaming would effect the TV functionality but that could be a downside if iit did cause issues.

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Awesome. Love the chatpad.

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Edited By JustinGoSka

This is awesome. Before the I got my Xbox One I thought it would already have this feature already because it makes sense.

Don't really care about the keyboard though since I use smart glass.

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I know Charter is trying to develop a USB stick that you just screw the coaxial cable into it and stick it in the Xbox one. If it works it should be pretty sweet.

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it's a games console microsoft, people buy it for games. not fuvking tv.

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@ronan32: Simply not true. Microsoft found during the Xbox 360's career that a significant portion of the installed base was using it far more for stuff like Netflix than fro gaming. While something like a Roku is less expensive the Xbox 360 performed far better. The Xbox One ups the ante considerably in comparison to things like an AppleTV. So long as there is a revenue stream, it isn't in Microsoft's interest to tell people they can only use the Xbox as a game console. If it can be achieved with relatively inexpensive software development, adding more features to the Xbox is always going to add value.

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@ronan32: wow, did you miss all the games that will coming out for Xbox in the next year. Maybe someone should tell Sony that their console is a gaming console considering they haven't really been pumping the games out. At least tell Sony that their console was released in 2013 and not 1995.

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@ronan32: actually some of us use it for everything including the non-gaming apps.

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@ronan32: SONY HAS CABLE TV THRU PS4 for $50 a Month

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@kusto1891: that's good for them but I don't see Microsoft doing that instead they likely will try to lure all the other cable companies to make apps for the system and go about it that way. Sony's offering is a cable offering with a few things missing the last I checked. I think Xboxs alternative today would be Sling possibly or just an existing provider.

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@ronan32: it's good to have options. Instead of having a digital antenna and a roku or Apple TV you can use the Xbox and some apps.

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So; does this mean you can basically get rid of the cable box and use the Xbox One for pretty much all your entertainment and gaming needs?

That's my ideal scenario; where the only thing you need to stick under your TV a the console box, or two/three if you want some of the other systems too, and basically nothing else.

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@amaneuvering: Probably...but you'll need the Sling TV service to get cable channels.

This DVR announcement applies to only free over-the-air broadcast channels: NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, etc. And you need to be close enough to their broadcast towers for an antenna (indoor or outdoor) to pick-up the signal.

Under those circumstances, the Xbox One will give you full DVR capabilities for programming on the free OTA networks.

If you want ESPN, TNT, A&E and other cable networks, Sling has a streaming product which starts at $20 per month.

That package of programming will probably cost MUCH less than what most people pay their cable / satellite providers each month for programming and equipment. But for the Sling service you'll still want good high-speed internet and a sizable data allowance.

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@tjkraz: Does Sling TV allow you to DVR? If so, what device do you use to do that? They are only supported on a few select devices. None of which have DVR capabilities. Soon the XBO will, but that doesn't mean you'll be allowed to DVR Sling TV content.

Also, Sling TV is a SINGLE stream. You can't watch your Sling TV on multiple devices on the same account concurrently. Yet another limitation. Sling TV is great, but there is some fine print that many people aren't aware of that make it less desirable than, say, a TiVo Roamio w/ a basic cable sub.

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@amaneuvering: no this is for recording over the air TV not cable. The cable signal is scrambled and required a cable card and two way tuner to descramble and record.

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@oflow: No its NOT!!!! You moron!!! Its for recording cable tv shows.

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@Sevenstorms: I work for the cable company. Trust me it won't record cable without a cable card. The cable is scrambled with a codex.

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@Sevenstorms said:

@oflow: No its NOT!!!! You moron!!! Its for recording cable tv shows.

Not according to the information Microsoft revealed today. They specifically said that it would apply only to free, over-the-air TV. It will require the $70-80 tuner stick and an antenna to receive broadcast channels.

Most cable providers require some form of digital tuner box to unscramble their signal these days. No word on whether the DVR functions will work with those cable tuners.

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@tjkraz: Yup, that's what this article failed to make clear. I doubt the cable and satellite and whatever providers are going to allow their content to be recorded from the HDMI input.

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@hystavito: They really don't have a choice. The Supreme Court ruled on time shifting a looong time ago, when VHS roamed the earth. More recently, the FCC made it a requirement for cable/satellite companies to support CableCard to enable customers to use their own preferred equipment. I have a TiVo Premiere and rather than rent a cable box the CableCard is just $2.50 a month.

Keep in mind, Microsoft already knows how to control most of the cable boxes in current use, using the Kinect as an IR blaster. Recording the video stream from the HDMI IN shouldn't be a problem. The missing link for now would be a USB device for CableCard support.

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@tjkraz: Dang, so you mean you have to buy an additional accessory to do this as well? That's messed up.

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@otterbee: Xbox doesn't have an integrated TV tuner. There's no place for you to plug in an antenna and start receiving the signal.

Realistically if you want to "cut the cord" and ditch cable programming and hardware fees, is the one-time purchase of an $80 accessory really a deal-breaker?

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@tjkraz: Yes, because a better alternative is the following:

TiVo Roamio, Hulu Plus, NetFlix, and basic cable. And then my PS4 for gaming.

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@otterbee said:

@tjkraz: Yes, because a better alternative is the following:

TiVo Roamio, Hulu Plus, NetFlix, and basic cable. And then my PS4 for gaming.

Better for you perhaps but highly doubt it's cheaper.

I have Tivo myself and no regrets about buying it. But it is MUCH more expensive than an $80 USB tuner.

The USB turner plus Sling TV at $20 per month costs a LOT less than Tivo + basic cable.

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@tjkraz: And what capabilities do you sacrifice there? You don't have any DVR capabilities for Sling TV, and you only have the ability to watch Sling TV content on one device at a time. So, if there are multiple users in the home and they both want to watch different programs on Sling TV, it's not even possible.

Sure, there are cheaper alternatives...but at what "cost" of features and functionality?? Sling TV, this tuner you're talking about and an XBO is a non-starter for me (and many other people) because you lose some fairly standard features (DVR and multiple user) right off the bat.

I pay $80/month for DirecTV and that's the lowest package with multi-room DVR support (three additional rooms). I've yet to figure out a package that gives me a similar channel lineup, features and functionality for less than about $70/month. XBO certainly doesn't get me there with this offering.

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@otterbee: And that's fine. It's certainly not an option for everyone.

I'm just surprised that you poo-pooed the idea of a one-time $80 charge for a tuner stick--which turns the Xbox into a FREE DVR for all over-the-air networks--when you yourself likely paid 7-8 TIMES that amount for the Tivo (assuming lifetime programming sub.)

We all have to decide how much we're willing to pay for certain features. Many cord cutters will LOVE this feature and the $80 tuner is not even remotely a deal breaker.

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@tjkraz: I appreciate that. And actually, I'm not a TiVo owner. I desperately want to be a "cord cutter", but I have someone in the house that watches TV quite a bit. And they have their services, features and functionality that they don't want to give up. I've researched all of this intensely over the past few months. Nothing provides an equivalent service for substantially less than what we are paying now. It doesn't help that the person is "technology-challenged", so forcing them into a new user experience is very scary as well.

My guess is there are a great number of others that are in the same situation. So, this option that MS is providing is nothing but a cost-adder for many, rather than a cost-savings...because it doesn't offer them a true "cord cutting" scenario.

Also, my apologies for being a bit misleading in my current usage and the implication that I'm a TiVo user/subscriber. I was just outlining that you could get a much more equivalent usage model with a TiVo scenario. And while it's not a cost savings by any means...it offers more equivalent functionality.

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@otterbee: Your household sounds a lot like ours. We watch a lot of TV too and cord-cutting is not likely in our future. A year ago I spent about $800 on a 2-room Tivo setup, which knocked about $60-70 per month worth of hardware fees out of our cable bill. So that investment has already paid for itself.

Additionally the ability to stream live TV and recordings to tablets and phones from the Tivo is a huge feature for my two teens who now don't need costly TVs and even more cable equipment.

However, I have a friend who "cut the cord" more than 2 years ago. They exclusively use Hulu, Netflix and channels they can access via OTA antenna.

For them, something like this Xbox DVR would be a nice addition. Sure a lot of the broadcast content is available via Hulu...but not all of it. Plus you have news and other local programming which isn't streamed or time shifted in any meaningful fashion.

For people on a budget, it's a nice value-added feature. And perhaps Xbox will eventually support full DVR functions from cable or satellite sources. Windows Media Center was recording from cable sources for years...although MS seems to have done away with that.

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@oflow: Ah well. Still not quite there yet.

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f yeah

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Long-awaited?

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