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Xbox One passes PS4 on Amazon chart

Microsoft's next-gen console grabs the lead back after policy reversal announcement.

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The Xbox One has overtaken the PlayStation 4 on Amazon's video game best-seller chart, one day after Microsoft announced a dramatic policy reversal.

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The Xbox One was tracking ahead of the PS4 earlier this month, MCV points out, though it fell behind after Sony's E3 announcements of pricing ($400) and policies (plays used game, won't require Internet connection).

Notably, there is only one Xbox One SKU on the Amazon best-seller chart--the Day One Edition. Meanwhile, five separate PS4 bundles grace the preorder chart.

Microsoft yesterday announced new policies that put the Xbox One more on par with the PS4.

The new terms state players are free to trade in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc-based games in the same way that they can today on the Xbox 360. In addition, Microsoft has done away with 24-hour Internet "check-ins" and lifted the Xbox One region lock.

Though Microsoft has backtracked on some of its policies, the company has no plans to revisit the platform's $500 price point.

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pre orders are from fanboys, wait untill lauch, than we see who goes to town, until than? this PC gamer will grab the popcorn... ohh what is it? STEAM SALE! gtg biaches!

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@wizzzer_thy_133 PC = Poorman's console, LOL

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@LittleSaintGoph @wizzzer_thy_133 even though I have consoles and ultrabook=not a gaming pc, but you do know that gaming pcs are expensive than console? consoles are cheaper alternative of gaming pcs.

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@LittleSaintGoph @wizzzer_thy_133 You do realise that a console is basically an antiquated PC right. PC's are more powerful than consoles can ever dream of being. PC's are a hardcode gamers paradise, especially if you care about speed and performance. Exclusive titles and content is the only edge consoles have on them.

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@StarlightHunter @LittleSaintGoph @wizzzer_thy_133 Lol because I was being serious...

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@LittleSaintGoph @wizzzer_thy_133 "PC = Poorman's console, LOL"

That was like... the DUMBEST thing I ever heard in my whole gamming life...

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@Eraldus @LittleSaintGoph @wizzzer_thy_133 I owned you so much

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@wizzzer_thy_133 Dont think your not a fanboy just because you are a PC Gamer. You just flaunted your gaming system of choice fanboy.

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@bakagami @jinflorida @hordaak Why so mad? Sony employee? Sony fanboy tactics are so stupid aren't they?

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This gen I've been enjoying games on 360, PS3 and PC and I'm honestly baffled that so many people are preordering a console that is less powerful and more expensive based on small video clips of games. Overall I'm fairly underwhelmed by the launch titles on both sides so far and the only ones I want to play are not exclusives so my choice is a no brainer really. Microsoft have pushed me away with all the rubbish from the launch and their initial arrogance and inability to communicate about features, plus I have no interest in the kinect at all so why should I be forced to pay for one??! The only positive really is that competition will hopefully drive companies to invest in the publishers to create better games, so we are all benefiting from this. With a price drop and some great new (not a sequel/prequel) exclusives I may well get an xbox one in the future but right now MS have a lot of work to do to regain my trust. I'm not telling anyone what to do, just expressing an opinion

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That's cool, that'll thin out the gibbering masses on PSN.

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What the fanboys on both sides fail to see is that without each console competing against each other, the gamers wouldn't get a great selection of exclusives. Love or hate whichever side you want, but without each other, we would suffer the Madden Syndrome. FYI: that is when there is no competition and things become stale. An example is when Madden Football games got the exclusive NFL rights, they didn't really have to put out anything worthwhile. I will own both next gen consoles eventually but not because one is made by Sony or Microsoft. I purchase for the exclusives and both companies always have good exclusives.

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Ps4 having unlimited preorder at Gamestop now they are doing so well. Amazon Ps4 still outselling Xbox with 5 SKUs in the top 10 and only one xbox Model. So good going for clawing back to a respectable level Xbox. Second place isnt so bad Xbox.

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Really, almost five thousand comments

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it isnt selling better. if you look at amazons list there is 1 xbox one (at first place) then the ps4 (at second) then the 4th and 5th spots are also ps4s with bundles, and about the 7th is another ps4 bundle.

lol

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@GodooTheGod Criss Angel really can fly! Xbox ONE is in first place! (and for all of you out there who just got excited, a little secret... smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors, smoke..... and mirrors)

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Im a gamestop employee.As of yesterday ps4 had 435 preorders .The Xbox 1 had 350 in my store. But before xbox changed their policies it was 350 ps4 to 200 xbox 1s. the Xbox is selling better right now 150 to 85 since the policy change. Microsoft saw the ps4 was going to destroy them causing the change. Ps4 is still leading,but my guess it will be 50/50 when its all said and done.I dont bash either system il just buy both,both systems have great exclusives.i do prefer the ps4 however.

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@tdtd1 Initial bump until the news wears off. Seeingas this isnt such a huge jump? I expect the numbers to come down below PS4 very soon.

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

Amazon says PS4 best seller of 2013 so far!

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@GrandChahee ahaha most best sellers are xbox live memberships ;)

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I think its a good thing that MS changed their policy's for those gamers without internet. but at the same time I think that move may do nothing more but hold the industry back for the future .I mean if the gamers of 2001 were as connected and discounted from the main picture as gamers are today we would all still be stuck with weaker dial-up and never made the big jump to broadband because their so scared of change.. and can only so whats infront of their eyes and with that fear only think of dooms day scenarios.. for always connected even know xbox 360 is always connected most of the time anyway

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@Dangerous231 I agree with you 100% on this one. If we ever want to move forward and go full digital (which is going to happen sooner or later, no doubt about it) then we need to man up and just let it happen. I don't know about everyone else out there but I like to rip my band-aid off right away and not just leave it there to fester and cause more problems.

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@TheVoidWalekr @Dangerous231 Yeah, it's such a shame that short sighted internet n00bs throw their dummy out of the pram without ever having the brains to stop and think. Microsoft's DRM policies were a step towards the future of gaming. A console version of Steam. Personally, I was looking forward to sharing my games with my friends and selling digital copies of games....which now has been undone.

However, since all these n00bs and Sony fanboys have forced Microsoft to change their policies, they have also inadvertently put the XB1 back on track and is now overtaking Sony's console....again.

The XB1 will continue its utter domination of the (hardcore gamer) console market with its brilliant LIVE service and now, cloud gaming out of the box :) Microsoft will still implement its policies for the better of gaming and gamers, but they'll do it when the PS4's pants are around its ankles being properly spanked...again ;)

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@LittleSaintGoph @neilcottee @TheVoidWalekr @Dangerous231 Yeah, so delusional, Sony are doing cloud gaming too....just not until 2014. Do a bit of research you mouth-breathing knuckle dragger...most Devs are extremely excited by the potential of cloud gaming...I suppose you think they are delusional too? Or my bet is you will be willing to suck them off when they tell you how good the Sony cloud is. How's about thinking for yourself before leaving a comment?

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@CivilWarOnDrugs @neilcottee The reason why I said "hardcore gamer" console market, was because I wanted to refer to xbox/playstation systems...not the wii/wiiU which we all know has also been very successful, but not aimed at the hardcore gamer, unlike the other two systems.....but take it how you want it...your IQ has no bearing on my argument.

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@neilcottee Would you happen to know any hardcore gamers, by chance? You might want to check with them before speaking for them. Just sayin'.
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@neilcottee @TheVoidWalekr @Dangerous231 Cloud gaming out of the box, can't stop laughing, what a delusional moron you are.

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@neilcottee @TheVoidWalekr @Dangerous231 A step toward screwing us ! If I wanted something like Steam, I'll just go get one now !!

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This article is completely inaccurate. If the Xbox One was actually selling more you would think that the Xbox controller would be selling more and would have passed the PS4 controller. However, the Dualshock 4 is at #8, and the Xbox One controller is at #11. They both come with one, so it doesn't add up. I guess Xbox players could have less friends, but that seems pretty odd.

Game sales are also a completely pointless statistic since all PS4 are being sold as a bundle now on Amazon. If you wanted to go by this the PS4 would have the 3 top selling games and the top selling controller, but somehow the Xbox One console is selling more. Let's all post articles without thinking. Sounds like a pretty good idea.

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@brian6671 it's called online gaming....we do that, and do it well

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@brian6671 He points this out in the 3rd paragraph beginning with, "Notably, there is only....." I agree that Gamespot and IGN "journalism" isn't exactly Pulitzer worthy, but we can at least try to read through the whole thing before flaming the writers. It makes us seem more intelligent as well. :)

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@bandofhawks @brian6671 True, but it's the headline that is doing most of the damage here. Clarifying that there are more PS4 SKU's doesn't negate the fact that many will just scan the headline then go around saying that Xbone is outselling the PS4, which is completely incorrect. And they know this

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@brian6671 Also, wouldn't that be an inconsistency with Amazon's charts, instead of Gamespot? All the stuff you pointed out.

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People seem to forget that both Microsoft and Sony are both giant corporations that are just trying to make as much money as possible. You have to be supremely naive if you actually believe that Sony "cares about us" and Microsoft doesn't. Microsoft's public relations handled the Xbox One about as poorly as a 15 year-old with no social skills. Meanwhile, Sony immediately capitalized on Microsoft's mistakes and they made it seem that they really cared what we all think. Newsflash: THEY DON'T CARE! The only reason they would want to make it appear AS IF they actually care is just so you can buy their products and increase their bottom dollar. They're both MEGA-corporations. With that being said, the Xbox One, contrary to what any of the Sony fanboys have been telling you Microsoft fanboys, isn't going anywhere. People are still going to buy it, and Microsoft will eventually fix the problems that are plaguing it, hardware-wise. You know why? Cause it's business. It's all just business, people. Just buy the console you want to buy, and play the games you want to play. We're all gamers, after all.

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@bandofhawks My PS3 stopped working for an unexplained reason. My warranty was 4 years out of the date. I called Sony up, explained it. We troubleshooted different ideas for about an hour over the phone. At the end of which I was told, "Well I really have no idea, we'd be interested in finding out, when are you availible" I told them the next day, they replied " Ok, we will have a delivery of a new PS3 to your house at 10am, and we will collect your old one, no charge".


They don't care?

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I don't know... Sony cared enough to give us awesome free games when psn got hacked so we wouldn't leave them. They also gave us free something when psn was down (I can't remember what it was they gave). They created Home, which was a free community. I understand there's no such thing as a free lunch, that in return for this free stuff, we give back our trust and eventually money, but when real people do that it's normal... When a corporation does that, everyone loses their mind!

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@SOLDIER-No2 Haha. It's all PR, my friend. I'm sure the eggheads at Sony were losing their minds when PSN got hacked. Luckily they have people their smart enough to take advantage of a lousy situation. "Lets turn this situation around and earn back some goodwill from our consumers in the process!! Then they'll never doubt us again, hehehehe. "

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True, while I won't go so far as to say they "care," I do think that Microsoft fails at reading their audience, while Sony does a great job at it. Sony's ad campaigns in themselves are games, which of course gamers love. For example, the e3 booth in Home was an entire scavenger game. So is their youtube ad. They're not great games, but Sony knows what we appreciate. That's why they get my money.

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@SOLDIER-No2 customer perception and going that extra mile to cater to them. Sony has taught us that goodwill can be just as valuable as margins.

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@SOLDIER-No2 Yep. Hopefully Microsoft has learned the importance of customer perception. They had a pass last generation because of how well the 360 did compared to the PS3, but they're in the hole now.

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I see what you're saying. I'm just seeing Sony as being in a different camp from MS, even just slightly. Because MS didn't do anything to pay back for the troubles caused by the red ring incident, to my knowledge.

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I think the big lesson learned here is that PR and public perception is everything when you're trying to gain an edge in the market. Microsoft would do well to learn from its mistakes and Sony.

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@bandofhawks thank you Captain Obvious, what would we ever do without you?

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@bakagami @bandofhawks Haha, it's ok man. I'm used to people acting all high and mighty. :) It's ok! We're all gamers at heart. You go enjoy your PS4, and everyone else will enjoy whatever game they want to play on whatever system they want to own. Maybe you can't accept that, but as soon as you do, you'll be a lot happier for it. Unless, of course, you work for Sony.

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@bakagami @bandofhawks Dude Hey YOU Mr. All High and Mighty..... You obviously didn't get what bandofhawks was saying. He specifically pointed out that both companies don't care about us? I guess you have a hard time reading. And yes you were trying to be a smart ass. And NO this is not obvious to everyone. IF it was so obvious to everyone I think the comments about M$ would be just a little different don't you think. Stop trying to boost your freakin' ego and just have a good time playing games man. Gamers are supposed to be united anyway.

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@bakagami @bandofhawks That's exactly my point. Both consoles are going to be around for the next 5-10 years or so, and they're both going to do really well. Just as Sony had major problems at the beginning of the PS3's life, Microsoft will now have to climb out of the hole they dug themselves into. I'd love to be able to buy both, as there are games that I have greatly enjoyed in the past on both company's platforms.

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@bandofhawks but the same could be said about M$ sudden change of heart. Had nothing to do with what the customers wanted, it was a result of sales projections and shareholder pressure

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@bandofhawks @bakagami and you think that I don't already accept that? I was merely trying to point out that only complete fools would think that either company gives a crap about us. Your entire comment above was a no-brainer. In a kind of snarky way, I was agreeing with you

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@jinflorida @bakagami @hordaak why would I be mad, we're winning...

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WOW!! This is cool and all but keep in mind in order for it to pass PS4 now mean that EVEN WITH ALL THE POLICIES WHEN THEY WERE IN PLACE, LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE RESERVING X1 NO MATTER WHAT. Im getting both consoles but way to go MS!!!!

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