Xbox, PlayStation, And Nintendo Console Market "Isn't Growing," Phil Spencer Says

@WarGreymon77: Agreed! 100%

My haptic feedback/vibration is turned OFF ... to save battery life.

Tried it. Once.

@FreeRPGer: where in America do you live that has no other employment options besides accepting $7.25 an hour? McDonald's is paying $16 and I'm rural af.

@boobytrap: He isn’t referring to just Xbox though. He is talking about the console market as a whole (which obviously includes PS5 and Switch). The console market for the past few generations has not grown at all, its hovers around the 150-200M (or whatever the exact number is) total units per generation which is divided up between the different consoles. That‘s the number he is talking about, that’s the number that isn’t increasing each generation. There is no growth, rather all that’s been happening for about 3 generations now is that new users come in and replace old ones.

@Lord_Sesshy: I agree, loved the PS3/XB360 games, even if they were 6-8hrs. If that is what it takes to make better games and more of them, then go for it to save on dev costs.

@Lord_Sesshy: don’t you think it’s a bit too dramatic?

PS5 is only 2 mil units behind PS4 after the same time on the market. Switch is on track to become the best selling console of all time.

Don’t read too much into what this clown has to say. He’s just trying to make it look like the XBox hasn’t flopped as hard.

@lewst2k1: He isn’t talking about just Xbox though or individual console sales.

He is referring to the total number of ALL consoles sold within a generation. That number hasn’t changed for several generations now, it’s just been sitting around 150-200M total units or so for like 15-20 years.

That 150-200 million or so has been divided between the consoles differently over each generation, but the total still remains quite steady. that’s the number he is referring to about having no growth. For generations now the big 3 have just been fighting for a share of the same 150-200M.

Sony and Nintendo are obviously growing their share of the market by taking it from Xbox but the market as a whole has been pretty stagnant for a while now. Even Sony themselves admitted the market was stagnant when they explained why they started releasing things on PC.

@lewst2k1: Totally Agree with you. The main issue here is that there is 0 incentive to buy an Xbox Console. All their so-called Exclusive games are also available on the PC. They are starting to release more of their Xbox-only titles to PS5 and Nintendo. Sony outsold them in consoles, had better exclusives that were actually exclusive to their console and started selling on cross-platforms. Like with MLB the Show. So saying it is not growing is not an accurate statement. They released two consoles Xbox Series X with a Disc drive that has superior hardware to the Xbox Series S, making them directly compete with each other, Sony released a Digital and Disc console that has the exact same specs. Also, you can get the disc drive separately if you change your mind. The lack of backward compatibility, original IP games, and a string of recently bad games, has made the console market slow down. But it is in fact still growing. This is evidenced by the fact that consoles are still selling every month. The PS5 Pro launched and despite being super expensive has sold 78,086 units in Japan, haven't seen US numbers yet. We are heading into the holiday season so those numbers should go up. The fact is Xbox's business model of selling inferior digital consoles (if fanboys don't believe me, compare the specs) to their disc version has sold less consoles than Sony and Nintendo. Sony sold about 62.67 million units of PS5 Globally. Switch sold 143.88 million with the lite selling about the same amount as the regular one. Then the older switch sold 20 million roughly. Xbox sold 30.20 million units. For both digital and disc versions combined.

The Switch is the 3rd best-selling console of all time. The total number of consoles sold in this generation is 236.75 million. The last generation sold 280.73 consoles combined. The current generation is not over yet. Keep in mind the last generation was 7 years before the new consoles came out. We are only 4 years into the current generation. So no the console market isn't shrinking, Since the switch outsold every console but the PS2 and DS. Before the current Generation, most games were only available on Console. This is why they sold more units for the PS2, which is the biggest-selling console of all time with 158 million units sold. So people had to buy a console to play games, Xbox 360 was the best-selling Xbox Console. and in my opinion the last great exclusive library for Xbox. Xbox One has some good exclusives but what is the series X where are their popular franchises like Halo, Gears of War, and Fable? Microsoft has spent so much time and money buying gaming companies and getting their games on PC that they forgot to make the games that sold their consoles.


The only game on my Xbox is Starfield. They had bet on their Xbox Game Pass being what would put them over the top in sales and it backfired. Yes, it is popular among Xbox users but most people want to own their games and play them when they want. Games leaving game pass is the main reason I didn't subscribe to it. But it works both for PC and Xbox. So people who have a good PC would rather play the game than have their PCS. Plus it doesn't incentives them to buy games for 70 dollars a pop when 10-20 dollars a month gives them all the games they want to try and play. Basically, if you get a PS5, have a good PC, and get a Switch you can play all the games you want and never need an Xbox. They divided their own fan base. Lastly, Sony keeps pushing to innovate in new areas, like VR, 3D sounds, 4k Blu-ray, and others. Not everyone wants that but the option is there on top of coming out with great exclusives and some flops. That you can't get on any other platform, and the ones you can like HellDivers 2 are cross-functional play.

@zerojuice: GET RID OF Phil, SAVE XBOX. we need competition, but Phil has proven to be a complete and udder failure over and over and is turning xbox brand into the next sega.