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Xbox's Phil Spencer Sees Amazon And Google As Their Biggest Future Competitors

Microsoft wants Sony and Nintendo to partner with them for the future.

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It might only be a few more months until Microsoft and Sony lock horns again with the launches of the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, but Xbox head Phil Spencer is already thinking about the competitors of the future. And according to him, they're neither Sony or Nintendo.

Speaking to Protocol, Spencer explained that the real competitors on the horizon are Amazon and Google, due to their established cloud-service backbones that already compete with Microsoft's own Azure network. Spencer sees the movement towards cloud gaming (they're already testing their own games streaming service, Project XCloud, publicly) and the hardware that they will require as the new ground for competition, instead of physical console sales.

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"When you talk about Nintendo and Sony, we have a ton of respect for them, but we see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward," Spencer said. "That's not to disrespect Nintendo and Sony, but the traditional gaming companies are somewhat out of position. I guess they could try to re-create Azure, but we've invested tens of billions of dollars in cloud over the years."

Spencer wants to shift the conversation away from hardware sales and towards the number of potential customers each company can reach, which makes establishing partnerships crucial. Sony has already made such a move, signing a deal with Microsoft to leverage Azure for future cloud-based products over Amazon, which still currently powers PSN through AWS.

"I don't want to be in a fight over format wars with those guys while Amazon and Google are focusing on how to get gaming to 7 billion people around the world," Spencer concluded. "Ultimately, that's the goal."

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I understand where Phil is coming from but sony are no doubt still a competitor. That may change more and more as time goes on though if sony can’t match the likes of Microsoft, Google and Amazon with game streaming services of their own coz let’s face it streaming is the future. I would say that Google and Amazon are more like future competitors but right now sony is Xbox’s main one.

But like I’ve said before on here it’s no wonder sony has approached Microsoft for help with there streaming initiative. (ps now/psn)

They do not have they’re own data centre infrastructure or the capital to build it for that matter in order to be able to compete with those 3 giant corporations. That’s why they need Microsoft Azure.

Fancy that! sony paying Microsoft to help them.

There must be a lot of shattered pony SDF pride out there lol.

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Don't necessarily agree with his statements but I do follow his logic. Unfortunately, MS aren't great historically at predicting trends and tend to be late to market (followers not innovators). They follow very well however and have mountains of cash. MS if nothing else is very patient leviathan.

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Gaming will eventually be cloud services - streaming etc. Amazon, Google and Microsoft are already the top dogs in that area and I don't see Sony or Nintendo having the cash flow to create similar models. Sony is already partnering with Microsoft for some of those types of services. Microsoft may not be leading the pack in hardware sales but there is nothing out there that comes even close to their Game Pass. And that's likely where the future lies - subscriptions to a full library of games delivered to any hardware you want to use via cloud services.

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Things like this are why I love Phil Spencer so much. He's present and invested in the MEDIUM, not 'just' the company. He's absolutely correct in stating that the biggest competitors in this evolving game-space are going to be giants "like" amazon and google. That doesn't mean Stadia is suddenly going to stop being a flaming pile of day-old dog shit. What it means is that the online infrastructure you are part of is going to be the new console war, not the hardware itself.

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Hot take:

Not only will Amazon and Google be the main competitors in the future but fanboys of XBOX, PlayStation, and Nintendo need to accept that in the not so distant future (maybe a decade or so) we will see the three companies come together or partner up to the point that they are practically indistinguishable.

That's how they will have the best chance to keep the top spot over the other two tech giants with endless money and resources.

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Of course you want to partner with Sony and Nintendo with your 3rd place self, and severe lack of solid exclusives. This whole thing is nonsense. The same way mobile gaming and hardware gaming are two separate coexisting entities, this will be the same. There's a place for everyone.

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@mooglestar: Comments like these completely (and willfully?) fail to understand what Spencer actually means.

Spencer wouldn't release the Xbox Series X, or spend hundreds of millions of dollars (billions?) on new studios, if he wasn't aware of and reactive to the reality that, right now, they are competing with Sony and Nintendo within the narrow confines of console gaming and content. He's spoken at length, including here at Gamespot, about how they completely made a mess of this generation, and spent a long time digging their way out.

But these comments of his are talking about where gaming is eventually going, not where it is right now. And if cloud gaming is indeed the future, there's only a handful of companies who will have the global infrastructure for it, and "own the wires" so to speak. Nintendo and Sony are emphatically not among those companies.

A cloud future could ultimately turn Sony into essentially a game publisher, whose products are made available over Microsoft's actual infrastructure. In such a scenario, Sony are basically a customer, not a competitor. It also results in a situation where Microsoft will always have a profitability edge for their own services, PLUS receiving indefinite revenue from clients whose business rely on their infrastructure.

People are too fixated on stuff like "oh, Stadia failed". Stadia could go away tomorrow, and it wouldn't change that Google Cloud is likely going to make Google a ton of money helping to facilitate a "cloud gaming" future.

Are we there yet? No, of course not. Spencer himself has said that future is still years away.

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@mooglestar: 3rd place in the gaming market is irrelevant. Business is about money and Microsoft wastes more money than Sony and Nintendo make combined. Think what Sony or Nintendo could achieve with Microsoft's cash flow. Sony is a hardware company. Microsoft is a software and cloud computing company. Dedicated hardware will be nonexistent eventually.

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How this moron is xbox head?

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@Tidus1012: That moron has completely turned the Xbox One around and is looking far into the future rather than just next gen. Even Sony is now buying cloud services from Microsoft. The future is cloud gaming and library subscriptions played on any device you own. Dedicated consoles are going the way of the Doe Doe. I don't see Sony coming up with the cash to create the infrastructure Amazon, Google and Microsoft already have in place. Once dedicated hardware is obsolete, what is Sony going to have to sell? Microsoft is making sure they stay relevant in a changing market. Sony will have to do the same eventually. Already partnering with Microsoft for some services opens the door to more cooperation in the future.

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@Tidus1012: lol how is he a moron? He's responsible for some of the most significant and positive changes we are seeing with not only the Xbox brand, but gaming as a whole.

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@Tidus1012: What did he say that was stupid? Gaming are going the way of Netflix where they become more of a streaming service 8n the near future. Since Amazon and Google have as much money as Microsoft to invest, buyout, and control the segment this all makes perfect sense. If any of the companies wanted to they could buy bot Nintendo and Sony and not be hurt financially.

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Stadia is a failure and Amazon has Twitch which allows anyone to sponsor a Streamer instead of being tied to Mixer. So of course he would see the losers as competitors. Xbox had the lowest sales next to right above Stadia.

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