Do you think bioware did good in killing shepard?

for the beginning of ME2 I mean.

I dont think it was a good idea...first, you get this feeling: shepard lost, all that you did in ME1 went to hell, the reapers killed you in some minutes and you werent able to defend yourself or even know what had hit you.

then, the revival thing.

if they revived shepard, what keeps them from reviving anyone else of importance in the universe? sure, its expensive as hell...but im sure that a lot of people or companies have a whole lot of money to do it...

and one would think bioware would have put some sort of "restriction", like not being able to revive if the corpse was too screwed up...but look at what jacob says in me2 when you ask him how he got there "you were nothing than meat and tubes" so that pretty much tells me shepard's corpse was a deformed disgrace carcass, and even like that they revived him and he looked completly normal, no permanent scars or anything...

so, yeah, I dont think they should have ever killed him, at least some important injury or something, but not killing him.

Killing him was just an excuse for face creation :P

But anyway, I doubt anyone else is gonna get the chance to get revived since it took billions just for Shepard, and governments/organisations can't just go around dropping so much money

Killing him was just an excuse for face creation :P

But anyway, I doubt anyone else is gonna get the chance to get revived since it took billions just for Shepard, and governments/organisations can't just go around dropping so much money

N7v1K0

:lol: yeah, imo they should have just asked if you had played me1 or not, and if you choose no you would just be taken to a character creation screen...and I bet they can, I mean, im sure cerburus isnt the richest organization in the galaxy by far

[QUOTE="N7v1K0"]

Killing him was just an excuse for face creation :P

But anyway, I doubt anyone else is gonna get the chance to get revived since it took billions just for Shepard, and governments/organisations can't just go around dropping so much money

lightleggy

:lol: yeah, imo they should have just asked if you had played me1 or not, and if you choose no you would just be taken to a character creation screen...and I bet they can, I mean, im sure cerburus isnt the richest organization in the galaxy by far

Cerberus is actually extremely rich. The Illusive Man started off with his own family's fortune, then Cerberus acquired a lot of public companies, such as Cord-Hislop Aerospace, and they get anonymous donors aswell

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="N7v1K0"]

Killing him was just an excuse for face creation :P

But anyway, I doubt anyone else is gonna get the chance to get revived since it took billions just for Shepard, and governments/organisations can't just go around dropping so much money

N7v1K0

:lol: yeah, imo they should have just asked if you had played me1 or not, and if you choose no you would just be taken to a character creation screen...and I bet they can, I mean, im sure cerburus isnt the richest organization in the galaxy by far

Cerberus is actually extremely rich. The Illusive Man started off with his own family's fortune, then Cerberus acquired a lot of public companies, such as Cord-Hislop Aerospace, and they get anonymous donors aswell

yeah, but are they the richest in the galaxy?

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Cerberus is actually extremely rich. The Illusive Man started off with his own family's fortune, then Cerberus acquired a lot of public companies, such as Cord-Hislop Aerospace, and they get anonymous donors aswell

lightleggy

yeah, but are they the richest in the galaxy?

The Alliance spends tons on their navy, colony maintentance, protection, politics, etc, etc. They HAVE to keep spending, or else everything falls apart, and they dont have spare funds to invest in ridiculously expensive research.

Cerberus on the other hand, mightn't be as rich, but they have a choice where to spend their money. They don't have to protect anything if they choose not to, they dont have a big ass navy that needs to be contantly looked after.

Get what I mean? :P

I actually think it's an interesting twist. Besides being an important part of the ME2 story the fact that Shepard was put back together by Cerberus could lead to a lot more interesting twists.Lone_Warrior_66

I agree with you on that. It was an innovative and well done display that not only allowed for new reconstruction options but also reminds that gamers that the main character isn't a god or invincible. It was a way of humanizing Shep which I think is a good thing for a character.

On the issue of money to bring someone back. Not only is it very expensive but it took them a long time to bring Shepard back and that seemed to be under pretty constant care, plus it seems to be like a relatively new thing that hadn't been attempted before. 

Sidenote: @lightleggy: lay off Bayonetta. That was a great game as far as how much fun I had even if the story had some weakness. The weapons and enemies were interesting and I really liked it. I don't think it should have gotten game of the year but it was still a decent game that doesn't deserve all your hatred, plus there is no way a vote for game of the year could get me to absolve gamespot of there overly frequent technical issues. 

I actually think it's an interesting twist. Besides being an important part of the ME2 story the fact that Shepard was put back together by Cerberus could lead to a lot more interesting twists.Lone_Warrior_66

I often wornder in TIM had him put back together, with a kill switch inside :? Incase Shep ever turned on him.

I often wornder in TIM had him put back together, with a kill switch inside :? Incase Shep ever turned on him.

Falcon084

[QUOTE="Lone_Warrior_66"]I actually think it's an interesting twist. Besides being an important part of the ME2 story the fact that Shepard was put back together by Cerberus could lead to a lot more interesting twists.Lightning__Evil

I agree with you on that. It was an innovative and well done display that not only allowed for new reconstruction options but also reminds that gamers that the main character isn't a god or invincible. It was a way of humanizing Shep which I think is a good thing for a character.

On the issue of money to bring someone back. Not only is it very expensive but it took them a long time to bring Shepard back and that seemed to be under pretty constant care, plus it seems to be like a relatively new thing that hadn't been attempted before. 

Sidenote: @lightleggy: lay off Bayonetta. That was a great game as far as how much fun I had even if the story had some weakness. The weapons and enemies were interesting and I really liked it. I don't think it should have gotten game of the year but it was still a decent game that doesn't deserve all your hatred, plus there is no way a vote for game of the year could get me to absolve gamespot of there overly frequent technical issues. 

yeah, but they said it took so long just because shepard's "body" (what was left of it) was a complete disgrace...I suppose that someone who, say, was shot in the head with a pistol would only take days to resurrect...

and even if he isnt invincible, does that really means he had to be killed? the reapers could have just kicked his ass and left him in coma for 2 years or something, and as a facial creation excuse they'll only have to say that the accident trashed his face so they had to rebuild it.

and thanks, but i'll keep hating on bayonetta...its truely one of the worst game ever and deserves all of my hatred

[QUOTE="Falcon084"]

I often wornder in TIM had him put back together, with a kill switch inside :? Incase Shep ever turned on him.

Lone_Warrior_66

[QUOTE="Falcon084"]

I often wornder in TIM had him put back together, with a kill switch inside :? Incase Shep ever turned on him.

Lone_Warrior_66

the illusive man himself said "dont put anything else on him, not a single thing, I need him to be the exact same man he was" and he doesnt even says it when shepard is awake, so he isnt just lying to shepard, and miranda also says that the illusive man ordered to not put anything electronic in him because it could change his character and everything would be screwed

 the illusive man himself said "dont put anything else on him, not a single thing, I need him to be the exact same man he was" and he doesnt even says it when shepard is awake, so he isnt just lying to shepard, and miranda also says that the illusive man ordered to not put anything electronic in him because it could change his character and everything would be screwed

lightleggy

Actually the only thing the log entry you're on about says is that the project would be a failure if Shep wasn't the person mentally that he or she was. It never mentions anything about electronics etc. 

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

 the illusive man himself said "dont put anything else on him, not a single thing, I need him to be the exact same man he was" and he doesnt even says it when shepard is awake, so he isnt just lying to shepard, and miranda also says that the illusive man ordered to not put anything electronic in him because it could change his character and everything would be screwed

N7v1K0

Actually the only thing the log entry you're on about says is that the project would be a failure if Shep wasn't the person mentally that he or she was. It never mentions anything about electronics etc. 

yeah but electronics could screw up his mind, it was a huge risk

[QUOTE="N7v1K0"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

 the illusive man himself said "dont put anything else on him, not a single thing, I need him to be the exact same man he was" and he doesnt even says it when shepard is awake, so he isnt just lying to shepard, and miranda also says that the illusive man ordered to not put anything electronic in him because it could change his character and everything would be screwed

lightleggy

Actually the only thing the log entry you're on about says is that the project would be a failure if Shep wasn't the person mentally that he or she was. It never mentions anything about electronics etc. 

yeah but electronics could screw up his mind, it was a huge risk

...and they were also the only thing that could restore functionality where the body failed permenantly

...and they were also the only thing that could restore functionality where the body failed permanentlyN7v1K0

That would explain the result of the poisonous drink in Omega.

Killing him was just an excuse for face creation :P

N7v1K0

But it was also a tear-jerker. Best start to any game I've ever played.

[QUOTE="N7v1K0"]

Killing him was just an excuse for face creation :P

caityful

But it was also a tear-jerker. Best start to any game I've ever played.

Agreed. It was a fantastic way to begin the game.

It's a minor plothole, since it can be easily countered with simple (albeit a bit arbitrary) explanations.

It doesn't bother me too much, tbh.