A reputation system should be implemented.

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#1 TACFARINAS
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I have notived while browsing other Forums, that some use a reputation system, where members can add/subtract
reputation (even leave comments) of other members according to the quality and attitude of their posts.

This is especially useful in identifying and appreciating favorable members, and will urge others to be productive contributors.

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#2 msudude211
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[size=11]This has been proposed in the past, and the prevailing response is that it has too great a potential to be abused. [/size]
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#3 fabz_95
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[QUOTE="msudude211"][size=11]This has been proposed in the past, and the prevailing response is that it has too great a potential to be abused. [/size]

Agreed, it'd be easy for the system to be abused, friends would be constantly giving you good rep whilst people who dislike you would be doing the opposite.
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#4 GooMaster
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[QUOTE="fabz_95"][QUOTE="msudude211"][size=11]This has been proposed in the past, and the prevailing response is that it has too great a potential to be abused. [/size]

Agreed, it'd be easy for the system to be abused, friends would be constantly giving you good rep whilst people who dislike you would be doing the opposite.

I agree with these two.
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[QUOTE="GooMaster"][QUOTE="fabz_95"][QUOTE="msudude211"][size=11]This has been proposed in the past, and the prevailing response is that it has too great a potential to be abused. [/size]

Agreed, it'd be easy for the system to be abused, friends would be constantly giving you good rep whilst people who dislike you would be doing the opposite.

I agree with these two.

I agree with these guys. Any question about how this would be abused need only look at the thumbs down problem in blogs....
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#6 topsemag55
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[size=11]This has been proposed in the past, and the prevailing response is that it has too great a potential to be abused. [/size]msudude211

I agree with msudude.

This would never work in either OT or SW...OT has a sharp ideological divide, and SW has a platform divide.

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#7 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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I'm totally against this. Cliques between users would abuse it, making it hard to actually discern decent users in such a system. Don't see it encouraging anything else besides further hate between people, either.

Besides, you don't need a rating system to tell if someone is worth liking or what their quality of posting is.

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#8 JodyR
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While other GameSpot members are sharing that they disliked the idea, staff have not shared whether or not they were in favor or disfavor about the ideas. Please continue to pioneer for related rewarding/reputation systems as staff do check this board for related requests, especially with Fuse in the back of their minds. ;)

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#9 AvatarBlue
Member since 2007 • 33 Posts

I like this idea, though it probably wouldnt affect me that much.

If such an idea was implemented Id dare that some sort of weighting system would have to be used. Some factors that could be used in the weighting could be:

- Member Union affliation of both source and target - same union, less weighting

- Member Reputation of the source - the higher the more weighing

- Number of member (reviews) likes/dislikes against target - i.e. more thumbs up, the less weighting

- Frequency of member interaction with target - more interaction, less weighting

and so on.

Source is the user who is doing the interaction that will affect the person being targetted.

Target is the person action is going to affection reputation.

- Hope that makes sense!

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#10 Boubou
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These are all really good points. I would love to know how some sort of reputation system would affect you:

* As a user who sees other users reputation

* As a user who cares or doesn't care about his own reputation

Let me know what you think.

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Boubou Guiro

Senior Product Manager

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#11 Azaru32
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It would be good if we had something to distinguish those who are "known" in the community , have contributed and have done "important" things . Yes leveling is a factor of seeing who had been here long enough , and yes emblems do have the ability to show who have done this and who have done that . But , we could use another "system" for those who actually get involved in the community of Gamespot .

For example , leveling can happen without even posting or interacting with others . Emblems also . Another system is needed for those who do post , who do contribute and who do make their name known among others .

I would love to see something like that . Something new in Gamespot . Other than unions of course but thats a different story .

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#12 gbrading
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I believe a reputation system would be superfluous and unnecessary, and that it would be too easy to abuse it. It would only be beneficial for those who are already popular, but for most ordinary users there would be minimal impact. However, if your reputation score was kept private (i.e. only you could see it), then I think it wouldn't be much harm. Then again, it wouldn't serve any practical use either.

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#13 nocoolnamejim
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I'd tend to agree with the people who have already posted that, in general, I'd consider this feature to be something I'd be against. I'm not strongly against it, but mildly.



In theory, it is a nice addition and a way to provide incentive for people to behave themselves. In practice, I suspect that it will lead to a bit too much group think and cliquishness. I worry that it would provide barriers to entry for our forums by creating, over time, a "ruling class" of posters that have been around a long time and have amassed a powerful reputation. While on the other hand, this would also reward long-standing positive contributors to the community, it is basically a more powerful "level/post count" effect. Users who are new enough that they haven't established a reputation could find it difficult to get replies to things that they are saying and may feel somewhat excluded. Similarly, this could also have a chilling effect on posting non-conventional thoughts or ideas which would in turn make the forums a bit less interesting. (Although conversely, it would also probably work against people posting outrageous "look at me" style Jerry Springer style posts/topics.) It's a complex mix of incentives and pros/cons for this idea, which is why I'm only mildly leery. I would hope that that the positive incentives would carry the day, but it is hard to say for certain.
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#14 rragnaar
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I think this would be a negative thing overall. I could see posters using it to bully others, as well as posters adopting extreme behaviors in hopes of becoming more popular.(I'd assume these attempts would backfire most of the time as well.)
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#15 caddy
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To be honest, with the abuse already present in comments ratings, I don't think a reputation system would work well.

I think the only way it could work without too much abuse would be if you could only leave positive reputation, and if you could only see your own and nobody else's. Otherwise, people are just going to give everybody that disagrees with them negative reputation, which just isn't fair.
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#16 Azaru32
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There are many things that could already be abused . The idea of "only good reputation" is great . This system as a general idea is good . It needs some work though to implement it correctly . Now the abuse thing can't be really prevented can it ? What is certain is that something new is needed . Something fresh . Something that would make posting a bit more fun and maybe , i say maybe , bring the forums back to life cause its like a cemetery in the unions .

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#17 GabuEx
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I can't say I like the idea much. I've seen way, way too many times in the comments sections of blog posts and news articles where a completely reasonable but unpopular opinion that someone posts gets downthumbed like crazy and thus hidden from view. Reputation strikes me as something that people who have been around for a while already know about, anyway - the people who make good posts, funny posts, interesting posts, etc. are generally already known for the posts they make. As such this seems more or less unnecessary, except perhaps for giving certain users that everyone likes bragging rights for being at the top.

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#18 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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I don't see the need for such a system. All I see it doing is causing more users not to trust each other because they haven't gotten a good reputation yet or simply don't have one despite being good people. We already see some cases of users using another's profile level as a means of discrediting them, and I fear that this would only strengthen that mentality. That's not something we need, I think, especially since it is almost guaranteed to scare off new users.

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#19 Azaru32
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I see the mods are against it . I see your points . But tell me , what does this place need ? Cause surely it needs something . Maybe some new union features ? or are you against it as well ?

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#20 subyman
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The problem with this type of rating system is that it is "majority rule." More 360 fans than Wii fans? Wii fans get rated poorly. I do not see this going over well on forums in which debate is promoted. On highly technical forums, it is great because you get to see who the best problem solvers/contributors are, but here a person would just be rated highly if they happen to have the most popular opinion.

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#21 nutcrackr
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I would also only really support a reputation system that allowed positive reputation only, like the Steam forums. Then again all that would do is give people who post a lot and people who post accepted opinions the higher reputation. Not sure there is a need for reptuation but definitely not one where people can down vote others or remove reputation.

I could see it becoming a negative aspect in forums like System Wars "nice low rep, ignored" type comments. Don't really think its necessary or adds much to the site apart from another measure for people to compare each other against.

I think there is some merit to somehow highlighting the good posts in threads so people can quickly scan and get answers.

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#22 pierst179
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To be honest, with the abuse already present in comments ratings, I don't think a reputation system would work well.

I think the only way it could work without too much abuse would be if you could only leave positive reputation, and if you could only see your own and nobody else's. Otherwise, people are just going to give everybody that disagrees with them negative reputation, which just isn't fair. Caddy

Yes, we already have plenty of people that abuse the "thumbs down" feature in the comments just because they disagree, or dislike a user. Some users around here have entire blog posts of great quality whose comments are all thumbed down with no reason whatsoever.

I think comments should only have the thumbs up option, and I think a reputation system would only be good if the same measure was taken.

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#23 Dracula68
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To be honest, with the abuse already present in comments ratings, I don't think a reputation system would work well.

I think the only way it could work without too much abuse would be if you could only leave positive reputation, and if you could only see your own and nobody else's. Otherwise, people are just going to give everybody that disagrees with them negative reputation, which just isn't fair. Caddy
I agree with that and if it was ever implemented we would need to have a level playing field by getting rid of "thumbs down" as well.
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#24 Azaru32
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You could start that system or some similar one , in a beta version . You watch responses and see how it goes . Then , according to the feedback , you can change , fix , or implement other options to make it as "fair" as possible . When you want to do something , you can always find a way . The point is , do you ?

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#25 spazzx625
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If the thumbs up/down implementation is any indication I could only support a positive reputation system. If you like someone you can boost their reputation but you cannot detract from it. Even so, it's bound to be abused.
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#26 chicknfeet
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[QUOTE="Caddy"]To be honest, with the abuse already present in comments ratings, I don't think a reputation system would work well.

I think the only way it could work without too much abuse would be if you could only leave positive reputation, and if you could only see your own and nobody else's. Otherwise, people are just going to give everybody that disagrees with them negative reputation, which just isn't fair. Dracula68
I agree with that and if it was ever implemented we would need to have a level playing field by getting rid of "thumbs down" as well.

If GS does go that route, I think it would be better if the reputation were not displayed on the forums, but rather hand out an emblem (or something along those lines) to display on their profiles. Indeed, that could be abused for people that are emblem mad, but at least going this way, one person's reputation wouldn't be readily available to throw up in another person's face
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#27 Azaru32
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[QUOTE="Dracula68"][QUOTE="Caddy"]To be honest, with the abuse already present in comments ratings, I don't think a reputation system would work well.

I think the only way it could work without too much abuse would be if you could only leave positive reputation, and if you could only see your own and nobody else's. Otherwise, people are just going to give everybody that disagrees with them negative reputation, which just isn't fair. chicknfeet

I agree with that and if it was ever implemented we would need to have a level playing field by getting rid of "thumbs down" as well.

If GS does go that route, I think it would be better if the reputation were not displayed on the forums, but rather hand out an emblem (or something along those lines) to display on their profiles. Indeed, that could be abused for people that are emblem mad, but at least going this way, one person's reputation wouldn't be readily available to throw up in another person's face

then what is the point ? we are talking about implementing something totally new and not just another emblem . That defeats the whole point . We either make a system of "positive" only reputation and also take out thumbs down , or we just let things how they are...Either way , things are already being abused . Something new needs to be considered and also applied.

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#28 mariostar0001
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It'd be like thumbs up/thumbs down on a long-term scale, it would be quite easily abused.