F1 warms to a return to USA

F1 warms to a return to USA

Tony George is trying to bring Formula One racing back to the United States, but not necessarily to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, according to a report in the Indianapolis Business Journal.

George was head of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the Indy Racing League (IRL) until 2009 when he was removed, and his own IRL team folded last year. Local sources suggest that bringing F1 back to Indianapolis is no longer his priority, although his family continues to run the circuit.

There has been no US Grand Prix since 2007 when George and Bernie Ecclestone failed to come to a commercial agreement, but there is a large fan base in the country and Ecclestone is also aware of the huge financial market there to be exploited.

George was spotted in China at last week's Shanghai Grand Prix where he was the guest of Ecclestone. He reportedly had discussions about future plans for a grand prix in the USA as well as meeting with potential sponsors.

While Indianapolis is the historical home for F1 in the USA - the Indianapolis 500 was included in the world championship from its inception in 1950 for more than a decade - Ecclestone has made no secret of his desire to host a race in or near New York. On top of that, business experts said Ecclestone would have to lower the F1 sanctioning fee, which ranges from $10 million to $30 million annually, to make the race feasible in Indianapolis.

When asked whether or not Indianapolis was the best place for a potential round stateside, Ecclestone said: "Yeah, it is. It's only the fact that it's all the wrong crowd and the wrong people. Nothing worked there really. We'd have to have a big change round. But we'd like to get back there."But Zak Brown, founder and CEO of Just Marketing International, an Indianapolis-based motorsports marketing firm, who was in Shanghai as well, said F1's sponsors were clambering for a presence in the USA.

"Would Tony George love to broker a deal to bring back a US Grand Prix? Sure," Brown told the newspaper. "Tony has a lot of contacts in motorsports, and he knows how to put on a US Grand Prix. I think if there's a role for Tony in trying to bring Formula One back to the US, he'd be willing to help. Tony and Bernie have a very good relationship, and Tony has a lot of interest in seeing F1 return to the US."

Brown added that Ecclestone's long-term aim may well be to host two races in the US, as has happened before. That would raise concerns among teams and fans who are already concerned the expansion of the sport into new venues is leading to an overcrowded calendar. Ecclestone will have none of that, recently remarking there could be as many as 25 grands prix in a season.

Back in Indianapolis, the possible return of F1 was greeted with caution. "Anything in the entertainment world from the NFL to F1 is a competitor," Randy Bernard, the new head of the struggling IRL, said. "If it is good for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the city and the state, who am I to make a formal opinion to the contrary? But if it failed the last time it was here, why would it come back?"

While some fear F1's return to Indianapolis, other worry about the consequences if it did not locate there. "If the world's top level of motor racing returned to the US and didn't locate at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, you'd really have to scratch your head," Tim Frost, president of a Chicago-based motorsports business consultancy

"He [George] still has an ownership stake in the Speedway. I'm not sure why he would work to bring it anywhere else unless he's simply convinced it wouldn't work there."

SOURCE: espnf1.com

I really have to wonder what Bernie's standards are... I mean I can perfectly understand track safety etc, but what else is he looking for damn it? :|kipi19

I suspect bernie is looking for this

Pieces of post delightfully plagerised from Ciro Pabon at F1Technical, current FIA approved circuits in the USA are:

Category 1:
Indianapolis

Category 2:
Denver
Laguna Seca
Lime Rock
Miller Motorsports Park
Portland
San José
Sears Point
Sebring

Category 2 tracks cannot hold F1 races, so, for the moment, it's Bill France or nothing, recognizing I have no idea if Laguna Seca was improved to Category 1 between 2006 and 2009.

Improving a Category 2 track to Category 1 is not that simple: braking distances (and thus, safety areas requirements) increase to the square of the racing speed and the right hander after the Corkscrew has trees that are... what? 15 meters away from the track?

FYI, these are the kinds of cars that can use Cat. 1 tracks (so, it means Indy):

GRADE CATEGORIES OF CARS THAT CAN RACE IN CATEGORY 1 CIRCUITS
Cars Grade 1: Formula 1
Cars Grade 1T: Formula 1 testing
Cars Grade 2:
- Single seater racing cars of Groups D (FIA International Formula) and E (Free formula) with corrected cylinder capacities over 2500 cm³, excepting Formula 1 Sports Cars of Groups C and E including SR1, SR2, LMP1, LMP2 and those with corrected cylinder capacities over 2500 cm³
- FIA GT Championship
- Historic cars of Groups F1/4 (TGP and F1 of periods G, H, I), TSRC 17, 18, 29, 30, 41, 42, 47 and 48 (Two-seater Racing Cars, over 2000cc, of periods G and later) and all cars of Period Z excepting Group B and WRC

Now, at Sebring, Sears Point, Miller, Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Portland, San José and Denver you can race in those cars:

GRADE CATEGORIES OF CARS THAT CAN RACE IN CATEGORY 2 CIRCUITS
Cars Grade 3:
- Single seater racing cars of Groups D and E with corrected cylinder capacities up to 2500 cm³ excepting cars in Grades 1 and 2 above
- Sports Cars of Groups C and E excepting cars in Grade 2 above
- Cars of Groups B, GT1, GT2 and similar cars of Group E, excepting cars in Grade 2 above
Cars Grade 4:
- Single seater racing cars of Groups D and E with corrected cylinder capacities up to 2000 cm³
- Sports Cars of Groups C and E with corrected cylinder capacities up to 2000 cm³ excepting cars in Grade 2 above
- Cars of Groups N, A and SP and similar cars of Group E
- Historic cars to Appendix K regulations not included in Grade 2 above
Cars Grade 5: Alternative Energy Vehicles

Further reading can be found here

This is quite a bit douchebaggery from Bernie and FIA, Now granted the corkscrew if someone were to mess it up is obviously not as safe as it should be, we all can account for that, but what I don't get is, IRL cars can be what same speed if a few seconds shy of F1 and they'd race around there, Moto GP go round there. WTF is the problem?

What makes F1 the only Grade one motorsport and not include like IRL in there as well as NASCAR? **** sake.

Hmmmm, still, I think that Bernie just needs to hand it over to someone else now, F1 needs to find a balance of getting good circuits in and having good cars to race with.

I mean, if bernie wants these races, Why not alternate them every year, throw the calendar order into a lottery and see what comes out at the end of it.

Having seen Road America and Road Atlanta on Forza Motorsport I can't say I'm a huuuuuuuuuge fan, although Road America does have a good amount of variation in it's corners - long sweepers, tight bends etc that could make for some exciting racing at least. Well... more exciting than Monaco, or Valencia, or Barcelona, or Singapore or.... wait what? :lol: