Console balance in FFXIII

Before u proceed reading below, remember that I'm not being jealous nor trying to say that one of the consoles should have the upper hand than the other in terms of FFXIII, but what I'm about to say is all just opinions and want to know what u guys and gals think about it, that's all :)

Now as far as we know, FFXIII is the same on both PS3 and Xbox360, there isn't any differences between them (correct me if I'm wrong). So, we also know that some people have both consoles with them, so when FFXIII gets released, the multiconsolers will most likely buy the 360 one because the PS3 Blu-Ray disc is more expensive yet there isn't anything in the PS3 FF13 that the 360 version doesn't have, so they will just ask themselves "Why should I pay extra money when there isn't anything extra in the PS3 version? I'll just buy the 360 one".

Since a Blu-Ray disc and the PS3's engine combined can hold more data and pressures than the 360 can, it's likely that Square are not planning to make use of these extra spaces because they want to balance the game at both consoles, which leaves that the PS3 would get released without making use of any of its engine's special capabilities.

I'll say it again that I'm not trying to say that the PS3 version should have more content than the 360, but what I thought about is why not add some extra features or utilities to the game that does not change or improve the game but yet it's something extra that can be worth the money payed for the blu-ray? An example is like the Luca theatre in FFX. It's not a part of the gameplay nor it influences it in any way, but it's still an addition that allows players to watch the cinematics and listen to the musics in-game, another addition is the beastiary like it was in FF12, the beastiary showed arts of the enemies and characters, but if you show them in 3D instead of arts, they are bonus addition, yet they don't influence the gameplay in any way.

So I thought the same, do u guys think that the PS3 version should have some extra utilities that doesn't make the gameplay any different from the 360 version but still creates a value for the extra money payed for the PS3 version? There are already many games out there that did these stuffs, but some other games that were ported on both consoles did not offer anything extra on the PS3 and thus caused the multiconsolers to prefer to buy it on 360 because they had no reason to make a decision of which version they should buy.

I think this will ensure that the PS3 version does not have an upper hand over the 360's gameplay but still makes the extra money payed for the blu-ray worth it. What do u think? :)

I must have missed something. Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 is going to be more expensive then the Xbox 360 version because it's being stored on Blu-Ray? I'd like a source for that one. Anyway, it's more likely that the PS3 version will have some advantages in regards to storage. I'm pretty sure the Xbox 360 version will run off of multiple disc. In fact, a game like Lost Odyssey ran off of more then two disc(and it's a Xbox 360 exclusive). Samething goes for Star Ocean: The Last Hope.

I personally do not think multiple disc is a problem; I just hope Square Enix can package it right. Considering the scope of Final Fantasy XIII it'll probably have multiple disc on the Xbox 360. With that said, there will probably be some sort of compression(ex. audio) but nothing too seriously. The PS3 version will probably be available on one Blu-Ray disc with space left over.

I personally think both versions look identical with only a few minor differences from what I've seen so far.

i think thy shud do wot other producers do, and make the extras slightly different in each version, so 360 gamers dont feel missed out, tho feeling left out in a FF, is pretty hard, they put so much effort in...

I believe the data on the 360 disc will be highly compressed, meaning a loss in quality...this could be a big change though, especially as PS3 graphics and sound have surpassed the 360 from the very beginning. A good example of this is the split screen in the Call of duty games, the graphics become far less impressive on the 360, they do the same on the PS3, but not in the same degree. The PS3 is much smoother than the 360 in many instances, it becomes especially obvious in games like Heavenly Sword(PS3) and The Darkness(both), the gameplay on those games far surpasses anything I've seen on the 360, of course the Darkness is both, but it is obvious the PS3 version is better...

i think thy shud do wot other producers do, and make the extras slightly different in each version, so 360 gamers dont feel missed out, tho feeling left out in a FF, is pretty hard, they put so much effort in...

I believe the data on the 360 disc will be highly compressed, meaning a loss in quality...this could be a big change though, especially as PS3 graphics and sound have surpassed the 360 from the very beginning. A good example of this is the split screen in the Call of duty games, the graphics become far less impressive on the 360, they do the same on the PS3, but not in the same degree. The PS3 is much smoother than the 360 in many instances, it becomes especially obvious in games like Heavenly Sword(PS3) and The Darkness(both), the gameplay on those games far surpasses anything I've seen on the 360, of course the Darkness is both, but it is obvious the PS3 version is better...

A_Fading_Scream

Ah..the system wars horror. Honestly, when it comes to past multiplatform games the Xbox 360 had the upper hand. Plus Heavenly Sword is a PS3 exclusive. I not entirely sure how the PS3 and Xbox 360 version are going to compare to each other. I just saw one instance in the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII where Lightning's bangs were a bit more jagged versus the PS3 version. I mean, we really haven't see a multiplatform game developed on the PS3 originally and then it head over to the Xbox 360.

I've have the demo for the PS3, and there's no reason why a game like Final Fantasy XIII can't run the same or better on the Xbox 360.

If i had both consoles, id get on the Xbox360 for the achievements, im a bit of a GS whore. :P-Phaz-

Oh yeah. I don't get Trophies at all; and honestly I think it was a waste of time to implement them. But awesome achievement might force me to buy the Xbox 360 version.

Yeah I'll be getting the PS3 version too.

[QUOTE="A_Fading_Scream"]

i think thy shud do wot other producers do, and make the extras slightly different in each version, so 360 gamers dont feel missed out, tho feeling left out in a FF, is pretty hard, they put so much effort in...

I believe the data on the 360 disc will be highly compressed, meaning a loss in quality...this could be a big change though, especially as PS3 graphics and sound have surpassed the 360 from the very beginning. A good example of this is the split screen in the Call of duty games, the graphics become far less impressive on the 360, they do the same on the PS3, but not in the same degree. The PS3 is much smoother than the 360 in many instances, it becomes especially obvious in games like Heavenly Sword(PS3) and The Darkness(both), the gameplay on those games far surpasses anything I've seen on the 360, of course the Darkness is both, but it is obvious the PS3 version is better...

NeoGen85

Ah..the system wars horror. Honestly, when it comes to past multiplatform games the Xbox 360 had the upper hand. Plus Heavenly Sword is a PS3 exclusive. I not entirely sure how the PS3 and Xbox 360 version are going to compare to each other. I just saw one instance in the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII where Lightning's bangs were a bit more jagged versus the PS3 version. I mean, we really haven't see a multiplatform game developed on the PS3 originally and then it head over to the Xbox 360.

I've have the demo for the PS3, and there's no reason why a game like Final Fantasy XIII can't run the same or better on the Xbox 360.

If i had both consoles, id get on the Xbox360 for the achievements, im a bit of a GS whore. :P-Phaz-

Oh yeah. I don't get Trophies at all; and honestly I think it was a waste of time to implement them. But awesome achievement might force me to buy the Xbox 360 version.

yeh, heavenly sword is a PS3 exclusive, ws tryin to say that I myself havnt seen anything to rival it, in terms of immersion ino the gameplay, and not just good graphics, but excellent fluid graphics...fluid graphics are found far more in the PS3 world, I have yet to play a game on the 360 that rivals the fluidity of gameplay and graphics and the excellence of sound quality of the top end PS3 games...there are many games on 360 that rival and surpass PS3 games and their are massive anomalies in the form of GTA IV and Fifa 09, in the way that their releases on 360 just simply look better than they do on PS3 for some unknown reason....

yeh the achievments, what do you gain from them? Im only a 360 user(my housemate has one), I dont own one myself...

@ A_Fading_Scream: You got nothing per-say, just a little picture with a number next to it in essence, but i personnally do enjoy looing at them as they show your accomplishments.

@ Orignal Poster, i believe the biggest difference will be amount of discs wont it? Blu-ray discs can hold alot more than the DVD the xbox uses. (Im not sure if SE confirmed if it will be multi-disc or not, i havent been following the game hugely tbh)

NeoGen85: Normally Blu-Ray discs cost more than DVD, not just with games but also with movies. U will notice that the same movie on DVD is cheaper than on Blu-Ray, at least that's how they cost in my place, don't know if it's different at your region. Although right now the prices could be totally different than what I have described due to the crisis so I could be wrong about the Blu-Ray vs DVD prices during this moment , or maybe what I have described still applies even during these times :)

Phaz: Even though they didn't confirm if the 360 version will have more than one disc or not, but still. If it truly did, paying extra money for the PS3 version just because it's 1 disc would not give enough motivation for the multiconsolers from making a decision when the game is released :P

I'd be getting the PS3 version regardless if there were any extra utilities in it or not, but now according to NeoGen85, I've realized that the cost of DVD and Blu-Ray discs in the US seem to be the same, yet I wonder why Blu-Rays cost more than DVDs in my place. This leaves the console balancing issue to be discussed in terms of the engine's capabilities rather than the cost of the discs :)bahamat0

Even though I have a PS3 and Xbox 360. I'm still probably getting the Playstation 3 version.

I must be like the ONLY person who has a Wii as their only next-gen console.sk84uhlivin

Don't feel bad hon, I have a Wii also. But since I beat Tales of Symphonia 2 on her a few months ago, I virtually have no use for her til the next Tales game comes out. Well that and Metroid/Zelda.

lol There are a lot of you out there... Wii is currently on the top of the sales list, right? :PFantasy_Gamer

Idc what the sales charts say, the Wii in my opinion is only for 2 types of people:

 1. Families with family games 

2. Nintendo fan boys/girls.

Seriously, if you aren't one of those 2 it is the WORST system in the world. 

If what i have been reading is correct the two games will be as similar as possible for the benefit of 360 users, but never fear because SE made the game using SONY hardware and pushed it to the limits.  SO from what i've surmised the 360 will be the ported version, so either way im getting the PS3 one, no doubt.  The 360 one will deffinitly be on multiple discs theres no way it isnt, and SE are apparently working hard to get the game to perfrom well on the 360 hardware.

I have heard the PS3 one is stunning, i've also heard the 360 one is incredible as well, either way this is a win win and no it wont cost less for 360 owners, even providing for the fact that its on DVD instead of Blu-ray, given that logic you'd have to take into account the multiple DVD's theyd have to use.

[QUOTE="sk84uhlivin"]I must be like the ONLY person who has a Wii as their only next-gen console.CamiKitten

Don't feel bad hon, I have a Wii also. But since I beat Tales of Symphonia 2 on her a few months ago, I virtually have no use for her til the next Tales game comes out. Well that and Metroid/Zelda.

Well, Little King Story comes out this Summer and Muramasa: The Demon Blade is due this year as well. Not to mention Fragile is finally coming to North America! :D

[QUOTE="sk84uhlivin"]I must be like the ONLY person who has a Wii as their only next-gen console.CamiKitten

Don't feel bad hon, I have a Wii also. But since I beat Tales of Symphonia 2 on her a few months ago, I virtually have no use for her til the next Tales game comes out. Well that and Metroid/Zelda.

I'm just worried I made the wrong console decision. I think I did..... Oh well nothing I can do about it now, except hope I get this job I applied for so I can get some muuuney! 

lol, like -Phaz- said I want the 360 version for achievements... :P yes, I have to prove Im a FF fan, im going for the 1k

 I don't think the PS3 should have more features as they can go and get versus after FFXIII if they like it plus I doubt MS would  like PS3 getting more features...its something which rarely happens with Multiplatform games.

I hope FFXIV or Versus comes to 360, I think FFXIII is kind of like the 360's trial, if all goes well then we could see more FFs on 360 and less rushed games *cough*last-remnant-infinite-undiscovery*cough*. The feeling I have is that if the 360 version sells well, they may port versus or more likely FFXIV

Making games multiplatform isn't an easy task since they need to think about the costs, fanbase, system performance....etc, for example, Metal Gear Solid 4 was not ported to 360 because during an interview with Kojima (Director) himself said that there were certein parts in the game that only a PS3 could handle these parts to be performed. Although this doesn't mean that MGS4 may not be ported to 360 in the future, but at least he gave a reason why he could only make it on the PS3.

There are certein other PS3-exclusive games that had the same issue, their games would only run on a system as powerful as a PS3 and its Blu-Ray discs, so if they want to port a PS3 exclusive game to 360, they also need to make a decision whether they should water down the performance of the PS3 game to the level of an Xbox 360 or to put extra requirements on the 360 version, such as extra discs....etc to make it run at the level of a PS3 engine. So my guess is that one of the reasons of Versus XIII being exclusive to the PS3 may not be because they want to balance the number of exclusive games on both consoles but rather it's about making it on a system that can maximize the performance of the game to the level that the developers wanted it to run at.

Making games multiplatform isn't an easy task since they need to think about the costs, fanbase, system performance....etc, for example, Metal Gear Solid 4 was not ported to 360 because during an interview with Kojima (Director) himself said that there were certein parts in the game that only a PS3 could handle these parts to be performed. Although this doesn't mean that MGS4 may not be ported to 360 in the future, but at least he gave a reason why he could only make it on the PS3.

 

There are certein other PS3-exclusive games that had the same issue, their games would only run on a system as powerful as a PS3 and its Blu-Ray discs, so if they want to port a PS3 exclusive game to 360, they also need to make a decision whether they should water down the performance of the PS3 game to the level of an Xbox 360 or to put extra requirements on the 360 version, such as extra discs....etc to make it run at the level of a PS3 engine. So my guess is that one of the reasons of Versus XIII being exclusive to the PS3 may not be because they want to balance the number of exclusive games on both consoles but rather it's about making it on a system that can maximize the performance of the game to the level that the developers wanted it to run at.

bahamat0

Exactly.

And thats why I feel FFXIV is more likely to come to 360 as it is being developed on PC, still....theres always hope

We've all heard that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is suppose to take advantage of PS3 hardware; that's Square Enix's claim. As with Final Fantasy XIV, I know it'll appear on the Xbox 360. I need to find the videogame radio show; but the host were attending the SE Press Conference at E3. Before they could even sit down, SE expressed their feelings about Sony's announcement with the game. They had a very firm statement that Sony mislead the audience about the MMORPG's exclusive status. I think in other news post the term "exploring other platforms" was shrugged off. In fact Square Enix talked about it for a few minutes showing some concern with Sony's mesasge.

Remember. Originally the Rapture project was suppose to be a PC and Xbox 360 project. At the end of last year it was confirmed that the PS3, PC, and Xbox 360 were receiving this new MMORPG and that we would see it at E3. Then E3 comes, and it's for the PS3. That threw me off!

Idk guys, just FF and 360 doesn't sound like a good fit. But that's just me...sk84uhlivin

I don't understand why not. Especially Final Fantasy XIV.

People just weren't patient enough and thought of 360 as a Shooter only console...which makes sense based on the original xbox.

 However this generation it is pretty clear that the 360 is at the same level, if not ahead in terms of RPGs against the PS3. 360 just has too many exclusive RPGs with more to come. PS3 is still good because people know they will get the next FF and stuff (like KH) though. Therefore both PS3 and 360 are both great for Final Fantasy :D and everyone can be happy...well apart from the wii fans...but they get CC. :P

People just weren't patient enough and thought of 360 as a Shooter only console...which makes sense based on the original xbox.

 However this generation it is pretty clear that the 360 is at the same level, if not ahead in terms of RPGs against the PS3. 360 just has too many exclusive RPGs with more to come. PS3 is still good because people know they will get the next FF and stuff (like KH) though. Therefore both PS3 and 360 are both great for Final Fantasy :D and everyone can be happy...well apart from the wii fans...but they get CC. :P

Flipyap28

W/e I made my point. And from what I hear CC sucks (I only have a Wii). 

I wouldn't say CC sucks, but to hold the Final Fantasy name means that people will always expect a lot out of it. The first game was really good imo and there have been a few good/decent other CC games like Echoes of Times. In a way, you could say CC is aimed at kids....Flipyap28

[QUOTE="Flipyap28"]I wouldn't say CC sucks, but to hold the Final Fantasy name means that people will always expect a lot out of it. The first game was really good imo and there have been a few good/decent other CC games like Echoes of Times. In a way, you could say CC is aimed at kids....z827

Yeah, and honestly...if Square Enix called it something different, would everyone here care? no. Just like how people don't care too much for the Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile, and Kingdom Hearts genre

[QUOTE="z827"][QUOTE="Flipyap28"]I wouldn't say CC sucks, but to hold the Final Fantasy name means that people will always expect a lot out of it. The first game was really good imo and there have been a few good/decent other CC games like Echoes of Times. In a way, you could say CC is aimed at kids....Flipyap28

Yeah, and honestly...if Square Enix called it something different, would everyone here care? no. Just like how people don't care too much for the Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile, and Kingdom Hearts genre