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#1 dbz987
Member since 2006 • 3765 Posts

 Final Fantasy XII and Final Fantasy VIII are both Love IT OR HATE IT GAMES and both games are critizied for their battle systems

Better Title: Final Fantasy VIII or Final Fantasy XII

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#2 DrAwesomeMD
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FFXII for me.
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#3 Gamer4Iife
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Im'ma have to go with Final Fantasy VIII.

I liked XII's combat system, but everything else was uninteresting; the characters, the plot, even the music was boring at times.

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#4 Bauers-Twin
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anything > FFXII

 

imo.

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#5 D3dr0_0
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Those 2 arn't bad but VIII is my favorite so to bad for XII.
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#6 Shiggums
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FFVIII. Much more enjoyable. FFXII was good, but not really up to FF standards, which has me a little worried about FFXIII.
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#7 siberian142
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FFXII...only because I havent played alot of FFVIII.
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#8 Wolf_Fox32
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FFVIII for sure, my favorite game of the series.
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#9 bahamat0
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Hard comparision at least for me. imo FFXII seemed to be having a better battle system, better loot and equipment engine and the dungeons were pretty entertaining. FFVIII on the other hand seems to be having a better storyline, more FFish feel and the characters had more life in them, not to mention that its music was very apealing and fits the FF style very well.

So it depends which of the features interest u more. If u care more about the story, characters and the environment than the battle system and dungeons then FFVIII is for u, otherwise go for FFXII.

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#10 lightwarrior179
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Final Fantasy VIII. I agree that it is the ultimate love or hate game but as far as I am concerned it is the best game I have ever played.
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#11 equimanthorn01
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I love Final Fantasy XII and hate VIII
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#12 CMakaCreative
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I'll have to go with FFXII. I loved the open ended battle system & wasn't to crazy about FFVIII drawn out battles because if you wanted some good items, you had to draw it out of the enemies. That didn't work for me & made some battles longer than they should have been. I like to focus on killing my enemies, not worried about making sure I draw enough items to boost my stats. The story was far better in FFVIII but I couldn't care for any of the characters in either of these games....except for Squall & Rinoa. I could see how you would vote for or go against either of these games. In the end, FFXII made me want to continue playing if after I was done with it while FFVIII made me tuck it to the side once I was done with it...only to attempt at trying to play it again but never all the way through.
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#13 NeoGen85
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Final Fantasy XII OST just crushed my spirit. That alone almost made me put down the game.
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#14 equimanthorn01
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What's the matter? Don't like good music?
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#15 Gamer4Iife
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What's the matter? Don't like good music?equimanthorn01

XII's soundtrack was alright. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but that was nothing compared to Nobuo Uematsu's works.

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#16 equimanthorn01
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IT is not meant to be compared to Uematsu's work. IT is very different. It's like comparing Pantera to Skiunny Puppy. It cannot be done. They are too different. Both are great though
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#17 DJ-Lafleur
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Very close, but I'll say VIII.

I wasn't a huge fan of XII's music, either. the only song I liked was the Esper Battle music in XII. VIII had more than 1 song that was memorable for me and likable.

I did not like the plot in XII; I liked VIII's more, though VIII's really isn't anything to write home about, either, IMO. It also helps that some the characters in VIII were actually interesting and actually had some personality and had some developement.

Gameplay is where it is tied for me. Both games had meh-worthy main quests, BUT had very entertaining optional quests. Filling up the License board was fun and so was managing the GF's.

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#18 Gamer4Iife
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IT is not meant to be compared to Uematsu's work. IT is very different. It's like comparing Pantera to Skiunny Puppy. It cannot be done. They are too different. Both are great thoughequimanthorn01

I don't think the difference in style matters much, as I wasn't directly comparing the songs. Just stating that I liked one composer way better than the other.

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[QUOTE="equimanthorn01"]IT is not meant to be compared to Uematsu's work. IT is very different. It's like comparing Pantera to Skiunny Puppy. It cannot be done. They are too different. Both are great thoughGamer4Iife

I don't think the difference in style matters much, as I wasn't directly comparing the songs. Just stating that I liked one composer way better than the other.

You are comparing them though. You go into it with a pre concievedc notion of what Final Fantasy music should be. It is no0t hte simpler stuff that Uematsu does. IT is far more complex wothj a lot more brass
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#20 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]

[QUOTE="equimanthorn01"]IT is not meant to be compared to Uematsu's work. IT is very different. It's like comparing Pantera to Skiunny Puppy. It cannot be done. They are too different. Both are great thoughequimanthorn01

I don't think the difference in style matters much, as I wasn't directly comparing the songs. Just stating that I liked one composer way better than the other.

You are comparing them though. You go into it with a pre concievedc notion of what Final Fantasy music should be. It is no0t hte simpler stuff that Uematsu does. IT is far more complex wothj a lot more brass

Well, whatever the case, Gamer4life simply didn't like XII's music, no did I, really.

I didn't think it was "bad" by any means, but nothing memorable or special, either.

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#21 equimanthorn01
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That is probably because it is far more complex. It does not get stuck in your head as easily. It is beautiful though
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#22 DJ-Lafleur
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That is probably because it is far more complex. It does not get stuck in your head as easily. It is beautiful thoughequimanthorn01

It was beautiful music, but also boring music, IMO. It didn't get me in the mood or got me interested...

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#23 NeoGen85
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[QUOTE="equimanthorn01"]That is probably because it is far more complex. It does not get stuck in your head as easily. It is beautiful thoughDJ-Lafleur

It was beautiful music, but also boring music, IMO. It didn't get me in the mood or got me interested...

A lot critics who reviewed the OST said that Sakimoto relied to heavily on orchestral composition(even though he's really good at it in my opinion) rather then softer melodies previously seen in Final Fantasy. They also critized that some of the songs felt like they had no direction and that there was no emotional delivery which is one of my faults with the soundtrack. You don't hear anything like People From the North Pole(Final Fantasy X), Who Am I(Final Fantasy VII), Gustaberg(Final Fantasy XI), or even Breezy(Final Fantasy VIII). The one thing done right in the OST was the battle music and some of the more classical themes. I'll admit that it's a good OST in comparison to many other videogame/anime OSTs out on the market. But it's personally not my favorite.

I believe FG imported Final Fantasy XII and I imported the OST. We definitely had different perspectives on the music simply because he was listening to it while playing the game, while I was just using my headphones. After it released in North America a few months later I still couldn't attach myself to most of the music.

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#24 equimanthorn01
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A lot of the music did have emotion though
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#25 batman_is_me
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FFVIII: Loved it

FFXII: Despised it

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#26 DreamersLegacy
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FFVIII was really nice.

FFXII was ok.

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#27 PlaWeird
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VIII = pure love

XII = meh

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#28 twilightlullaby
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0_o. It's another one of this "which game is better" board. *mumbles incoherently*

Well... . . .

FFVIII: ...

FFXII: I loved Balthier! ...

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#29 Bigcol1611
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Both have their pros and cons but VIII wins it for me!

 

XII tried too hard with the new battle system im afraid!!!

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#30 DreamersLegacy
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didnt try hard enough...
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#31 Gamer4Iife
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FFVIII: ...

twilightlullaby

No comment about VIII ? :(

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#32 twilightlullaby
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[QUOTE="twilightlullaby"]

FFVIII: ...

Gamer4Iife

No comment about VIII ? :(

Somehow, I always forget the things I like about it. I'm just overwhelmed by the annoying Quistis, that I forget the good things. Like the dance scene. And Zell. And Laguna. And Rinoa. :)

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#33 Gamer4Iife
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Somehow, I always forget the things I like about it. I'm just overwhelmed by the annoying Quistis, that I forget the good things. Like the dance scene. And Zell. And Laguna. And Rinoa. :)

twilightlullaby

Whaat ? I found Rinoa way more annoying than Quistis. :P

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#34 PlaWeird
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Whaat ? I found Rinoa way more annoying than Quistis. :P

Gamer4Iife

And even more annoying was Selphie. Too perky :P

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#35 twilightlullaby
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*does a double take* Did I write that I liked Rinoa? Crap, never mind that! I just remembered: I hate all the female leads in FFVIII. Must have been tired when I wrote that, sorry people. :P
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*does a double take* Did I write that I liked Rinoa? Crap, never mind that! I just remembered: I hate all the female leads in FFVIII. Must have been tired when I wrote that, sorry people. :P twilightlullaby

High fives on that comment!

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*does a double take* Did I write that I liked Rinoa? Crap, never mind that! I just remembered: I hate all the female leads in FFVIII. Must have been tired when I wrote that, sorry people. :P twilightlullaby

[QUOTE="twilightlullaby"]*does a double take* Did I write that I liked Rinoa? Crap, never mind that! I just remembered: I hate all the female leads in FFVIII. Must have been tired when I wrote that, sorry people. :P PlaWeird

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Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*
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Jealous? Are you just saying that because...I'm a girl? No, I'm not really jealous of Selphie or Quistis. Rinoa, maybe just a teensy little bit. But only a little mind you. I hate the fact that she got to dance under the stars with a mildly cute guy (I don't like Squall in that way). Stuff like that never happens to me!
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#39 Dreamone
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I have to go with FF XII.

1.It had a better upgrade system.

2.Better characters, and locations.

3.Fun boss fights.

4.Alot of sidequests.

5.And finally the Active Dimension Battle system (ADB) and the Gambits was really sweet =)

But I still like FF VIII :P

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#40 billybobbarvis
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Jealous? Are you just saying that because...I'm a girl? No, I'm not really jealous of Selphie or Quistis. Rinoa, maybe just a teensy little bit. But only a little mind you. I hate the fact that she got to dance under the stars with a mildly cute guy (I don't like Squall in that way). Stuff like that never happens to me!twilightlullaby

I'm just joshin' ya! But you really are a bit jealous! O.o
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Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*billybobbarvis

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.

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#42 twilightlullaby
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Hey! It's just a little bit because when I was little, having a dance like that was my dream. Not like I could find anyone...that's why it ticks me off. But I'm joking a bit too. I feel kind of bad, having gone on when you were joking. :(
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[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"]
Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*PlaWeird

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.


Why? :(
Hey! It's just a little bit because when I was little, having a dance like that was my dream. Not like I could find anyone...that's why it ticks me off. But I'm joking a bit too. I feel kind of bad, having gone on when you were joking. :(twilightlullaby

Turn that frown upside down! :)
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#44 Gamer4Iife
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[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"]
Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*PlaWeird

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.

What about Terra? :(
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#45 equimanthorn01
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[QUOTE="PlaWeird"]

[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"]
Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*Gamer4Iife

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.

What about Terra? :(

Terra is amazing. This is not an opinion. It is a fact, like the air we breathe
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#46 PlaWeird
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[QUOTE="PlaWeird"]

[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"]
Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*billybobbarvis

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.


Why? :(

Well...uh...because...they're not men? :o

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[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"][QUOTE="PlaWeird"]

[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"]
Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*PlaWeird

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.


Why? :(

Well...uh...because...they're not men? :o


Oh my goodness, PlaWerd. >.>
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#48 PlaWeird
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[QUOTE="PlaWeird"][QUOTE="billybobbarvis"][QUOTE="PlaWeird"]

[QUOTE="billybobbarvis"]
Heh heh, do I sense some jealousy? *Music Note*billybobbarvis

From my side, not at all :P Female leads just are an epic fail.


Why? :(

Well...uh...because...they're not men? :o


Oh my goodness, PlaWerd. >.>

Hey, what's with that face...that is the truth :P

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#49 Amnesiac23
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I have to vote for FFVIII. It's my favorite FF :P
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#50 D3dr0_0
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Your not alone on that one FFVIII FTW.