Kefka lost to Sweet Tooth and Sephiroth to RAAM.

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#1 samanthademeste
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How pathetic is that?
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#2 valereth-1
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SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have won
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#3 magitekk
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Wasn't this like....2 months ago?
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#4 samanthademeste
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I just found out yesterday.
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#5 samanthademeste
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SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have wonvalereth-1

Sephiroth did more villainous things then Raam ever did.

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#6 magitekk
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[QUOTE="valereth-1"]SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have wonsamanthademeste

Sephiroth did more villainous things then Raam ever did.

The only reason why Sephiroth lost (I don't even support Sephiroth) is because a bunch of trolls wanted him out. So they set up this big campaign to get him out of the competition asap.

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[QUOTE="valereth-1"]SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have wonsamanthademeste

Sephiroth did more villainous things then Raam ever did.

Like spend the entire game frozen in the northern crater. Oh wait....that is ALL he did over the course of the game. The one thing he was actually shown doing in the game was a frickin flash back. The rest of it was his clones and NOT him
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#8 magitekk
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I will admit that though many people regard Sephiroth as a great villain, he hardly did contribute to anything in the game. Most of the time, you were just fighting off Shinra goons.
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#9 Yonathin3155
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Now Shinra, THEY were a great villainous force. Really, all the problems stemmed from them, INCLUDING Sephiroth's insanity.
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#10 samanthademeste
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You see Raam twice in the game and then you kill him. And did Sweet Tooth take over the world or become a god? No he did not. (he's not even really a villian, more of an anti-hero)
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#11 valereth-1
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You see Raam twice in the game and then you kill him. And did Sweet Tooth take over the world or become a god? No he did not. (he's not even really a villian, more of an anti-hero) samanthademeste
Liuke I said. RAAM sucked. He was not a good villian. This does not change the fact that Sephiroth was not a good villian either. I hnave always liked Sweet Tooth as a character. but I grew up with him. I played the crap out of Twisted Metal 1 and 2
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[QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have wonvalereth-1

Sephiroth did more villainous things then Raam ever did.

Like spend the entire game frozen in the northern crater. Oh wait....that is ALL he did over the course of the game. The one thing he was actually shown doing in the game was a frickin flash back. The rest of it was his clones and NOT him

lol thats like saying he used magic to to evil and didnt do anything directly. so he didnt do anything evil. what is a clone again?

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[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have wonSCGhost2424

Sephiroth did more villainous things then Raam ever did.

Like spend the entire game frozen in the northern crater. Oh wait....that is ALL he did over the course of the game. The one thing he was actually shown doing in the game was a frickin flash back. The rest of it was his clones and NOT him

lol thats like saying he used magic to to evil and didnt do anything directly. so he didnt do anything evil. what is a clone again?

A clone is a copy. IT is not the original. Sephiroth did nothing.
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#14 SCGhost2424
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so if i do a ninjutsu move and make copies of me... my copies killed u and i didnt have to do anything... u are not my kill then?
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#15 valereth-1
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OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your clone
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#16 magitekk
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OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your clonevalereth-1

But that clone never would've killed you had it not been summoned by it's creator.

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#17 valereth-1
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So you want to blame Hojo for everything the clones did over the course of the game? Honestly, he made a much better villian than Sephiroth does. At least he was active during the game

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your clonemagitekk

But that clone never would've killed you had it not been summoned by it's creator.

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#18 magitekk
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So you want to blame Hojo for everything the clones did over the course of the game? Honestly, he made a much better villian than Sephiroth does. At least he was active during the game[QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your clonevalereth-1

But that clone never would've killed you had it not been summoned by it's creator.

Yes, we all know Hojo was a much better villain, but Sephiroth did play his part in FFVII as well. We'd like to think that Sephiroth had very little of a role in the game, but you have to think back to previous FFs. Many of them gave you the idea that you were fighting this guy for the whole game, but then bam, you find out that this other guy is the real enemy at the last second.

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[QUOTE="valereth-1"]So you want to blame Hojo for everything the clones did over the course of the game? Honestly, he made a much better villian than Sephiroth does. At least he was active during the game[QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your clonemagitekk

But that clone never would've killed you had it not been summoned by it's creator.

Yes, we all know Hojo was a much better villain, but Sephiroth did play his part in FFVII as well. We'd like to think that Sephiroth had very little of a role in the game, but you have to think back to previous FFs. Many of them gave you the idea that you were fighting this guy for the whole game, but then bam, you find out that this other guy is the real enemy at the last second.

Hojo was the real enemy in VII. It was not something like IV [spoiler] where the person you thought of as the real villian was under the control of another [/spoiler] . Hojo orchestrated it all. He is the one that did all the experiments and made all of the clones. He is the one that wanted the reunion to happen. He was behind everything.

 

An argument could be made that Jenova was controlling Sephiroth. After all, it was not being clones of Sephiroth that drew the clones to him. IT was the Jenova DNA inside them that drew them toward the crater to reunite with the rest of Jenova.

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OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your clonevalereth-1

lol right if thats what u think. i just hope u know thats wrong....

sephiroth went crazy after learning about his mother right? so he started with his scheme there. even if hojo created the clones....if they were "clones", they shared the same ideal and menace as the original. i least this is what i think. but honestly if u really think that something i summoned (cat, dog, ifrit, clone) and killed you does not make it my kill, then i dont know how i got experience from kills from my summons/pets in all the final fantasy games and many many other games....

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[QUOTE="valereth-1"]OF course not. One would not be killed by you. One would be killed by your cloneSCGhost2424

lol right if thats what u think. i just hope u know thats wrong....

sephiroth went crazy after learning about his mother right? so he started with his scheme there. even if hojo created the clones....if they were "clones", they shared the same ideal and menace as the original. i least this is what i think. but honestly if u really think that something i summoned (cat, dog, ifrit, clone) and killed you does not make it my kill, then i dont know how i got experience from kills from my summons/pets in all the final fantasy games and many many other games....

 

Hojo planned the reunion as an experiment with the Jenova cells dude. Not Sephiroth. It was the Jenova cells that were driving them toward Sephiroth.

 

Again. a clone of Sephiroth did everything in the game, not Sephiroth himself. There is a huge difference

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#22 SCGhost2424
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right, now its the cells? so the cells he was build with are to blame no sephiroth himself? lol ok i'm done arguing with you now...
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#23 valereth-1
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That is what Hojo was testing. I would tell you to play Dirge of Cerberus because Hojo explains it all in that game, but no one should be subjected to that piece of crap./ Hojo put Jenova cells in all of the clones of Sephiroth as part of an experiment. He wanted the reunion to happen. He wanted to see if they would all gather together, and they did
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[QUOTE="valereth-1"]SEphiroth sucks, but Raam sucks too. Both Kefka and Sweet Tooth are cool, but Kefka should have wonsamanthademeste

Sephiroth did more villainous things then Raam ever did.

What about... Sephiroth died after getting repeatedly whacked by Knights of the Round that did godly damage and all RAAM ever did was stand there and get shot to death by my Sniper Rifle XD