*Rant* Don't you find it ridiculous and embarrassing that gamespot users...

You zre ranting because other people have opinions differing fron your own. Click here There are a lot of people that share this opinion. This is, far and away, the most mixed reaction of a Final Fantasy game yet

It is a matter of people having different opinions. People are allowed to not like something you like, you know.valereth-1

Yes, but they're not allowed to not like it if they haven't even tried it.

So to give a game a 4.0 isn't single minded? As I said.. at worse, a 7.5 Theres no way in the world this game deserves a 4.0 score. That's ridiculous. That's pure hating.Xtatic324

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]It is a matter of people having different opinions. People are allowed to not like something you like, you know.magitekk

Yes, but they're not allowed to not like it if they haven't even tried it.

It is a matter of people having different opinions. People are allowed to not like something you like, you know.valereth-1

  wow, that's funny  

REMINDER: Please keep cool. Exchange of opinion is good. Laying down your arguments/discussions is good. Just don't go personal and start bashing a person just because he thinks otherwise as you. We all have different tastes and standards. What you thin k is good may be one of the worse to another.

As for me, I find FFXIII as average. Not outstanding, but I cannot say it is bad. 

FFXIII is one of the best ff games in my opinion, but I can undersatnd why people didn't like it.  The entire game is linear, it lacks exploration. The game lacks most of what an rpgs have. So some fans think FF13 is not an rpg

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]It is a matter of people having different opinions. People are allowed to not like something you like, you know.GymFox

  wow, that's funny  

Most people gave it a terrible score because of the hype. Plus listening to other people moaning about how bad it is. I'm a Final Fantasy and RPG fan and i'm liking what i have played so far. I'll let you know what i think when i finish it in the next day or so (i'm guessing). But as for the hype and hate rubbish, i prefer to throw it aside and decide for myself. No1s opinion matters but your own when it comes to gaming. Which is why bashing and flaming is just daft. Play it, complete it and decide on your own. Makes life easier:). P.S. FG get your PS3 connected to the net mate. Don't like seeing you in the pending response section away at the bottom. Junky out.ffxjunky06

Oh, my. I'm so sorry. I want to update my hard disc drive, and would be replacing my ISP soon. Please bear with me a little longer. I want to have you in my friends list. 

Thought I'd share my opinion on FFXIII: It's a great game, but I feel it's mostly due to the graphics, all the scenery. I think about if this game was in the 16-bit era and realize that it actually wouldn't be all that good. The story itself is sort of confusing if you don't have a speck of background knowledge about the game before you play it (there's no explanation of the terms "Fal Cie" and "L'Cie" in the game, so if you don't know what those are at the start, you'll be wondering what the hell the characters are talking about) and then there is that linear aspect, which is sort of understandable, maybe because of funds, perhaps Square didn't really have the money to make more environments.

I'm not trying to bash anyone on their well thought opinions.  Honest opinions... Mature opinions..  But I cant respect some punk kid coming into the site, hating on Final Fantasy and square enix and posting ridiculous reviews and scores.  

 I'm not a fan of Modern warfare 2.. ill be honest, but Im not going to do a review of the game and say its bad and give it a 4.0.

 I'll give Modern Warfare 2 a 9.0 and say its an addicting online game.  But the main story is very short, and after that has no replay value.  Its just constant online shooting which makes the game.  But I won't be disrespectful and give bad scores just to lower the overall user score to make it look bad.  You know people are doing that just to be A holes.

Thought I'd share my opinion on FFXIII: It's a great game, but I feel it's mostly due to the graphics, all the scenery. I think about if this game was in the 16-bit era and realize that it actually wouldn't be all that good. The story itself is sort of confusing if you don't have a speck of background knowledge about the game before you play it (there's no explanation of the terms "Fal Cie" and "L'Cie" in the game, so if you don't know what those are at the start, you'll be wondering what the hell the characters are talking about) and then there is that linear aspect, which is sort of understandable, maybe because of funds, perhaps Square didn't really have the money to make more environments.

magitekk

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Thought I'd share my opinion on FFXIII: It's a great game, but I feel it's mostly due to the graphics, all the scenery. I think about if this game was in the 16-bit era and realize that it actually wouldn't be all that good. The story itself is sort of confusing if you don't have a speck of background knowledge about the game before you play it (there's no explanation of the terms "Fal Cie" and "L'Cie" in the game, so if you don't know what those are at the start, you'll be wondering what the hell the characters are talking about) and then there is that linear aspect, which is sort of understandable, maybe because of funds, perhaps Square didn't really have the money to make more environments.

valereth-1

It can make up for something bad in a game. It's sort of a sandwich approach, you cover up something bad by 'sandwiching' it between something good. In this case, the linearity (a term you love to use so much) is smooshed between the good graphics and unique storyline.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

Thought I'd share my opinion on FFXIII: It's a great game, but I feel it's mostly due to the graphics, all the scenery. I think about if this game was in the 16-bit era and realize that it actually wouldn't be all that good. The story itself is sort of confusing if you don't have a speck of background knowledge about the game before you play it (there's no explanation of the terms "Fal Cie" and "L'Cie" in the game, so if you don't know what those are at the start, you'll be wondering what the hell the characters are talking about) and then there is that linear aspect, which is sort of understandable, maybe because of funds, perhaps Square didn't really have the money to make more environments.

magitekk

It can make up for something bad in a game. It's sort of a sandwich approach, you cover up something bad by 'sandwiching' it between something good. In this case, the linearity (a term you love to use so much) is smooshed between the good graphics and unique storyline.

i dont see why people are giving ff13 low scores i gave it a great score you guys should check out my review :)altyendings

I know.. Its embarrassing.  Pure hating.  Besides the graphics being great it has a great battle system, which is indeed "Gameplay".  And people making it act like the story is equivalent to a Dr Seuss book. 

Wow valereth-1 your kind of black and white with your opinions. You come across as aggressive when you voice it. Although your not, it seems like your bashing. Though i respect your opinions and feel your correct in certain areas, i have to agree with magitekk with the sandwich affect (nice word to describe it). Most of the time i'm looking around in the game and thinking WOW. Its a place i would love to see. Though the colours and flickering from bit to bit in scenes can result in a sore head lol. Experience:). magitekk, i get what you mean about the lack of explination with certain things. It gets alittle destracting in the game. Also some scenes i have heard the characters saying "we've already talked about that". No you haven't and i want to know. But glad to say i pick things up quickly and understand it all. FG don't sweat it mate lol. Trust me you'll be staying on my list. More welcome there than most on my list and thats saying something.ffxjunky06

I completely agree with you buddy. Maybe they could, at least, imagine, playing FFXIII with the graphics of NES Final Fantasy. XD Btw, magitekk's "sandwhich effect" is true... Taking the game in it's entirety is the way to judge a game.

Oh, I really appreciate it junky. I just can't find a shop willing to tinker with my PS3 and replace my hard disc with a bigger one without them freaking out with the risk of them bricking my system. :P

[QUOTE="altyendings"]i dont see why people are giving ff13 low scores i gave it a great score you guys should check out my review :)Xtatic324

I know.. Its embarrassing.  Pure hating.  Besides the graphics being great it has a great battle system, which is indeed "Gameplay".  And people making it act like the story is equivalent to a Dr Seuss book. 

Also opinion

No1s opinion matters but your own when it comes to gaming.ffxjunky06

I think this goes with any form of entertainment. Whether it's movies or music or gaming...don't let no one tell you, you shouldn't play, hear, or see something because they think it sucks. You might actually enjoy what the next person hates. It's just human nature. Let it be.

I dont really like the battle system, Characters, and the fact that NPC's never say anything worth while. other than that the game is alright.Abicus7

[QUOTE="Abicus7"]I dont really like the battle system, Characters, and the fact that NPC's never say anything worth while. other than that the game is alright.valereth-1

Believe he/she said its alright..  So alright is a 4.0? 5.0?   

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]I dont really like the battle system, Characters, and the fact that NPC's never say anything worth while. other than that the game is alright.Xtatic324

Believe he/she said its alright..  So alright is a 4.0? 5.0?   

Well just because I dont love it doesnt mean I hate it. I find the story interesting, and I dont mind that its linear. The graphics are awesome, And I DO like some of the Characters (Lightning and Fang).Abicus7

[QUOTE="Abicus7"]Well just because I dont love it doesnt mean I hate it. I find the story interesting, and I dont mind that its linear. The graphics are awesome, And I DO like some of the Characters (Lightning and Fang).valereth-1

Hey, im on your side here dude. FF XIII was a let down to me, So much that after playing at a friends house I didnt want to buy it for myself. I may some time down the road if / when its allot cheaper.

FFXIII has gotten a lot of mixed reviews. The two biggest newspapers in Norway gave it 3/6 and 4/6 while one of the biggest national gaming sites gave it 9/10. Edge gave it 5/10, but IGN gave it 8.9/10. Different people, different opinions. bgranli

Not to mention it getting a 39/40 from Famitsu and it being the #1 rated Final Fantasy in Japan right now (over FFVII and FFX, which seem to be the most popular ones here)

You should've seen that list, FFXIII was #1 of course, FFX was #2 I believe, then FFVII, those two are believable, I guess. But then this is where it makes no sense at all. FFIV came next, followed by FFIII, then FFV, then we keep going down, and then there's FFVIII and FFVI at the bottom.

FFIV, V and VI are all a hell of a lot better than VII and Xvalereth-1

opinion valereth-1. And please refrain from trying to "prove" your opinion with bad rhetoric. MANY MANY people hear would disagree with you . Including myself  

FFIV, V and VI are all a hell of a lot better than VII and Xvalereth-1

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Those are in my top 3 most favorite FFs, with FF7 on top; FF10 on third. FF5 is my fourth favorite, though.

Okay guys, lets just cool it now. Everyone likes different things, I guess, everything will be okay. :P

Another thing: Valreth, have you even played FFVII or FFX? I haven't played FFX, but I'll say that FFVII is indeed a good game. It's my second favorite 

Then everyone else: Have you even played FFIV, V, and VI? Most people here probably haven't. Bottom line is, lets not be so biased.

I used to think that only those who didn't give the older games a chance pissed me off, but now I realize that people who are closed-minded toward to newer ones make me mad too. Really now, why does it need to be like this?

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]FFIV, V and VI are all a hell of a lot better than VII and XFantasy_Gamer

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Those are in my top 3 most favorite FFs, with FF7 on top; FF10 on third. FF5 is my fourth favorite, though.

Okay guys, lets just cool it now. Everyone likes different things, I guess, everything will be okay. :P

Another thing: Valreth, have you even played FFVII or FFX? I haven't played FFX, but I'll say that FFVII is indeed a good game. It's my second favorite 

Then everyone else: Have you even played FFIV, V, and VI? Most people here probably haven't. Bottom line is, lets not be so biased.

I used to think that only those who didn't give the older games a chance pissed me off, but now I realize that people who are closed-minded toward to newer ones make me mad too. Really now, why does it need to be like this?

magitekk

FFVII is decent but extremely overrated. People act as if it is the beat all end all RPG. IT is far removed from that. None of the characters interested me, save Vincent, Red XIII and Zack. Some of the characters just plain annoyed me (CAit Sith and Yuffie). I did not like the quality of the sound at all. IT had a harsh edge to it that didn't need to be there on the PSone. There were games before it that had much better sound quality. It really dragged down the games musical score for me. I hated how the plot was structured. It felt more complicated than it actually was and was more confusing than it should have been simply because of poor structuring. I also hated that you could not ever actually learn abilities. IT felt like a down graded version of the magic system utilized in Final Fantasy VI to me. I have never been a fan of Nomura's character design. All of his characters look like generic anime characters to me. I think they completely lack in style, save for having a billion zippers and belts. The game was, also, graphically inconsistent. Some areas looked stellar at the time while other areas just looked aweful. The character models were grossly disproportioned as well