Vane seems to have been inspired by Legend of Dragoon

I just finished the US version of Final Fantasy XII (In my Japanese game, I'm going to Bahamut already). I just realized now how the final form of Vane looks like a variation of Dart's (hero ofLegend of Dragoon) final dragoon form.

Well, maybe it is only incidental, but there is quite a similarity. :P

well i heard legend of dragoon was made to run directly against final fantasy but for some reason the never made a 2. Maybe that has something to do with thatEmperorZeruel

yeah, going against the Final Fantasy franchise should have been an easy task for them. :roll:

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well i heard legend of dragoon was made to run directly against final fantasy but for some reason the never made a 2. Maybe that has something to do with thatDJ-Lafleur

yeah, going against the Final Fantasy franchise should have been an easy task for them. :roll:

The game did sell well it made the greatest hits so a lot of copies were sold.

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[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well i heard legend of dragoon was made to run directly against final fantasy but for some reason the never made a 2. Maybe that has something to do with thatEmperorZeruel

yeah, going against the Final Fantasy franchise should have been an easy task for them. :roll:

The game did sell well it made the greatest hits so a lot of copies were sold.

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[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well i heard legend of dragoon was made to run directly against final fantasy but for some reason the never made a 2. Maybe that has something to do with thatThreeVo

yeah, going against the Final Fantasy franchise should have been an easy task for them. :roll:

The game did sell well it made the greatest hits so a lot of copies were sold.

I kind of liked legend of dragoon it had realy good graphics the battle system was prety fun but there could of been much more of a veriority of magic. Futhermore one thing i heard about crnon cross was it stoped to load every time you went into and out of battle.

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[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well i heard legend of dragoon was made to run directly against final fantasy but for some reason the never made a 2. Maybe that has something to do with thatEmperorZeruel

yeah, going against the Final Fantasy franchise should have been an easy task for them. :roll:

The game did sell well it made the greatest hits so a lot of copies were sold.

I kind of liked legend of dragoon it had realy good graphics the battle system was prety fun but there could of been much more of a veriority of magic. Futhermore one thing i heard about crnon cross was it stoped to load every time you went into and out of battle.

ps: that is absolutley not ture... you must have mixed up crno trigger port for the ps1... and that is very tragic u mixed them up.. :(

I haven't played Legend of Dragoon, so I can't compare. I love the FMV where he turns into his final form though. It was very well made and cool looking. Personally I think his standard human form looks like an evil version of Laguna from FF8. I tend to call him "The Laguna Look-alike".Icebuncle

That I agree with :D He did really look like Laguna :S

I think ima go and play some of the extra bosses in FF12. I do go the stategy guide that i never used.MiracleMir

Have fun with Yiazmat if you get to him! >_>

Chrono Cross is a pretty good game but its not near what Chrono Trigger is. I remember playing chrono cross because I rented it and played it for a couple of hours but I never could get into the game like chrono trigger. With chrono trigger I have played it several times and come across different endings. Chrono Cross is an ok game but for a sequel to chrono trigger it didn't quite do what I would have liked it to. I realize the game is a greatest hit but I really didn't get the near the experience with it that I did with Chrono Trigger.

Its been awhile since SE has gotten my attention with the line up of games they plan to release but I'm interested in what they have to offer at the moment with FF13, the last remnant, etc...

Chrono Cross is a pretty good game but its not near what Chrono Trigger is. I remember playing chrono cross because I rented it and played it for a couple of hours but I never could get into the game like chrono trigger. With chrono trigger I have played it several times and come across different endings. Chrono Cross is an ok game but for a sequel to chrono trigger it didn't quite do what I would have liked it to. I realize the game is a greatest hit but I really didn't get the near the experience with it that I did with Chrono Trigger.

Its been awhile since SE has gotten my attention with the line up of games they plan to release but I'm interested in what they have to offer at the moment with FF13, the last remnant, etc...

odin2019

How could you possibly give a good review of Chrono Cross without playing the whole game? Chrono Cross is every bit as deep, tangled, and wonderful as Chrono Trigger. Granted, Chrono Trigger is the better game, you will get no argument from me otherwise, but Chrono Cross is freakin awesome.

As for the topic, I can see what you mean. Dart's final dragon form, where he has the eye-targeting thing and he's all mechanical, I can see what you mean. But Vayne's form is MUCH more intricate, and his wings are much more for show, Darts wings actually work and his armor is much sleeker, less jumbled up with useless mechanical cogs and such.

Personally, I was disapointed with Chrono Cross. Partly because I absolutely love Chrono Trigger and was expecting a game of its calibur or better as a sequal (which turned out not to be the direct sequal...Radical Dreamers was for an add on to the Super Famicom. Playing it answered questions that Chrono Cross seemed to jump over regarding story and timeline).

As for LoD, I rather liked that game. It had a slightly more unique battle system in how you attack (though original it is not). Regarding the resemblence...Vayne's final form appearance is far more intricate as GuttersnipeMav stated than Dart's. I wish they had come out with a second...but it just couldnt compete.

I am a big fan of Legend of Dragoon and the thought never crossed my mind.

At first I liked what they did with Vane in the cutscene where he reached his final form, but I think they went a little overboard. I remember thinking: "Oh that's kind of crazy, oh he looks cool, bad ass, ok he's not done, they're kind of killing it, w:ow thats unessessary :lol:"

Personally, I was disapointed with Chrono Cross. Partly because I absolutely love Chrono Trigger and was expecting a game of its calibur or better as a sequal (which turned out not to be the direct sequal...Radical Dreamers was for an add on to the Super Famicom. Playing it answered questions that Chrono Cross seemed to jump over regarding story and timeline).

As for LoD, I rather liked that game. It had a slightly more unique battle system in how you attack (though original it is not). Regarding the resemblence...Vayne's final form appearance is far more intricate as GuttersnipeMav stated than Dart's. I wish they had come out with a second...but it just couldnt compete.

aries8269

These are un opinionated FACTS about Lod that help me explain why Lod is a averagley poor rpg at best.

Awful menu system that swpas the music out every time u enter the camp screen, and the battle menus were litterally designed in no more than one day.

Absolutley NO post game chalanges or replay values invloving minigames or anything of the sort to keep u entertained when the main story was complete (for the exception of a horrific pig racing game that yeilds no valuble items)

Poorly presented Over world map that blends ugly graphics with terrain that is completley out of place. ex) you go to a forest that is a small little bundle of trees on the world map that is surrounded by plain brown terrain linked together with blue dots to neighboring towns. If they were aiming for this type of world travel why not do it on a similar scale like tactics did or Breath of fire 4 rather than a sloppy 3d rendered dot to dot map that throws forests, mountian hikes, and deep dougens in the middle of nowhere, all linked together by a rail track world exploration system.

For the breif time you are able to travel back to previous cities, you are forced to RE insert the respective game disc that is used when u first arrived at the in game town... ex) if you want to go back to the first town in the game you had to put in disc 1. This is assuming that anyone one whould even want to back track, given that there is absolutley no reason to do so for the execpiton of purchasing weak items from vendors you missed the first time around, wich also makes u wonder why did the developers even bother giveing you a breif sting ray like flyer to travel in the first place.

Any one ever watch power rangers when you were young? those of u that did might rember that for some odd reason when all the rangers were chilling at some random lunch room in school, they coincidentally all whore outfits that matched there respective ranger color, the red ranger guy always whore a red tanktop or t shirt, as did the blue and so forth. This was imedietly brought to my attention in Lod right off the bat, the main character is in red armor.. ok.. thats cool, and he was miraculouy the chossen red dragoon, and lavitz.. ALL of his castelmen where in blue gear yet for some reason... he was in green and what do u have it? yep u guessed it, he became the green dragoon and albert.. just the same? god forbid a little originality, no?

The battle system was based around mindless timing from start to finish..

The graphics were undoughtably underpar for its time, if people want to use that as one of its strong points, wich i think a few have...

The game was never ment to compete in direct to final fantasy, it was a stand alone single title project that was advertised mainly to the us... do anyof you remeber the Lod Comercials seen on many channels including MTV? i do, if you dont then here take a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs2OlW25Ao . A joke in all aspects. The ojnly respectable element the game had was rather nicely done CG scenes, wich were all shown brefily in teh comercial