Any other jaded Zelda fans??

I have always considered zelda to be the greatest series in all of gaming. I based this on both how much fun I had w/these and how well made the game is. I remember when i was in highschool, having played all the previous zeldas and waiting waiting waiting for Oot, when i finally played that game it was the ultimate experience. Now, I am very sad to say that Zelda : TP is not the same for me. Its not because it isn't a fantastic game. The story, mythos, production are all top notch. It has become a chore for me to play. I basically feel like I'm playing the game just to get to the dungeon or to the boss battles. Getting the tears of light and getting through the first 3 dungeouns has been 70% boring and 30% excitement. Its sad but the game is way too time consuming, not challenging enough, and well ..not fun like i remember. I'm not knocking zelda. I'm just wondering if there are any others out there now who are older (i'm 24) and feel like they've grown out of zelda. I really dont have time for long time consuming games. I'd rather play good games where I can pretty much just pick them up and play and have fun. I'm talking anything from good old platformers (super mario world) to halo 2's online , gears of war, the god of wars, a few fighting and sports games. It seems like this is what gaming has come down to for me. :( skimad432

Hang in there. The tears of light stuff sucks, it gets better.justiceboy13

I feel your pain, man. I made a thread almost exactly like this in the Wii forum couple days ago.

TP is a good, fun game but it doesn't have the Zelda "magic" like the other Zelda games have. It does feel pretty lifeless. It's the only Zelda game that I feel like it's a chore to get through the dungeons, and it's incredibly easy. The enemies are so stupid it actually angers me, I don't feel like I'm fighting a serious threat to the land of Hyrule. It's so sad to me, because I had so much fun with OoT and TP is kinda "meh" compared to OoT. The Zelda games have been going downhill since Majora's Mask.

I agree with the poster (or is it postee?)  Games that require my full attention and consistent play time just don't work for me.  Take Final Fantasy VII for instance.  I started replaying it about two months ago, and after a few weeks I stopped playing it.  A week later I play again and I don't know what the hell is going on.  So I end up walking to BFE and back and I still don't know what the hell I should be doing.

But TP isn't that type of game.  You can play it in short bursts and still enjoy it, or at least I do.  I don't feel that the game is boring or a drudge to play or anything even close.  And all this talk about TP not being fresh is valid but does it matter?  Did anyone knock Wind Waker or Majora's Mask for not being fresh?  Not that I read, and those two games had the same gameplay as Ocarina of Time.  To judge a game or dislike it because of its "freshness" is a damned ridiculous argument.  The game's either fun or it isn't.

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[QUOTE="skimad432"]I have always considered zelda to be the greatest series in all of gaming. I based this on both how much fun I had w/these and how well made the game is. I remember when i was in highschool, having played all the previous zeldas and waiting waiting waiting for Oot, when i finally played that game it was the ultimate experience. Now, I am very sad to say that Zelda : TP is not the same for me. Its not because it isn't a fantastic game. The story, mythos, production are all top notch. It has become a chore for me to play. I basically feel like I'm playing the game just to get to the dungeon or to the boss battles. Getting the tears of light and getting through the first 3 dungeouns has been 70% boring and 30% excitement. Its sad but the game is way too time consuming, not challenging enough, and well ..not fun like i remember. I'm not knocking zelda. I'm just wondering if there are any others out there now who are older (i'm 24) and feel like they've grown out of zelda. I really dont have time for long time consuming games. I'd rather play good games where I can pretty much just pick them up and play and have fun. I'm talking anything from good old platformers (super mario world) to halo 2's online , gears of war, the god of wars, a few fighting and sports games. It seems like this is what gaming has come down to for me. :( jack_basic

I offer a different perspective on your dilema. I'm now in my early thirties, and I notice that several of you who feel this way are now reaching the age of around 22. The disappointing feeling you got from Twilight Princess, get used to it. It's not to say that there is really anything wrong with Twilight Princess. It's just your age, perspective and the value you place on your time has all changed from the days in which you played Ocarina of Time.

Funny though, I was 22 when Ocarina of Time came out. I remember playing through it and really enjoying it. That was the first time I had seen all of these things in 3D. But when I finished the game I was feeling a little...empty. I complained that the ending wasn't very good, and there wasn't enough emphasis put on the story. And while the compositions were good, I thought the music was a little lacking. I am aware now, though, that all of these are ridiculous arguments. But that's how I felt at the time.

Why? Because the game had been hyped up to be the greatest gaming experience ever made. For me, it didn't topple my greatest video game experience up to that point, which was Final Fantasy VI for the SNES. I'm not here to debate which is better, OoT or FF6. I don't expect anyone to understand why I felt that way, you must know that I just did.

Games are alot like music and movies. They change over time, and everyone has a different experience. For example, if you spend the first six years of your life watching crap like C.H.I.P.S. and Dukes of Hazzard, do you think seeing Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope would've blown your mind as well? If you caught those on video in the early nineties and then only saw the prequel trilogy in theatres, you'd probably wonder what the hell all the fuss is about.

Most of the games I hold most dear to me are NES and SNES titles. I wouldn't recommend my favorite games to anyone else though. No one would understand. But to this day, I enjoy those titles more than I do new ones. Back when I had time to play games. Lots of time.

The point is, for every disappointed gamer out there in regards to Twilight Princess, there is someone else playing it and being moved on a level we wish could happen to us. I envy them a bit, and if you think about it, you do too. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I played through Twilight Princess on Gamecube. It took my around 88 hours to complete. I think all the complaints you have are valid. Yet, I do not share your disappointment. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised at the experience that was Twilight Princess. Guess I'm just easier to please in my old age.

The game maybe didn't please many fans. Zelda games are being to hyped up and the game has to live up to all the hype it gets. Look at the Wind Waker great game but some people criticise the difficulty the cel shaded graphics, the sailing sections and the size of the game. I will agree that some of the parts in Twilight Princess are a bit boring like collecting the vessels of light in Links wolf form. The thing is if they should make a Zelda game that is fast paced has lots of bosses, new enemies and a lot of side quests.  OOT was a hard act to follow with Wind Waker and Twilight Princess they don't offer much different in terms of gameplay. They are games that are good and should not be critcised to much because Zelda games are brilliant and Zelda fans love playing them.

If you make a new Zelda thats too much like the other ones, people complain "its the same old thing".

If you make a new Zelda thats drastically different than other ones, people complain "its not Zelda enough".

Zelda: TP lacked....luster

Nintendo needs to make their next Zelda more revolutionary.  Oot and Wind Waker seemed so great to me because there was nothing else like it.  But TP just seemed like a watered down versoin of oot.  Somehow they need to make Zelda different so that it is not the same as what we're used to.  Idk... TP just wasn't as magical as other zelda games....

Im 25 and have played all entries in the Zelda series except the 4-swords for the GC and haven't gotten very far in Majora's Mask. I like deep, entrenching games, when the experience warrents the time spent with the game.

That being said, I didn't own an N64 until just recently, and the first time I played OoT was with the GC master quest disk that I got after the playing the Wind Waker. I have to say that I also strongly prefer OoT to TP and thats without having these great memories of being blown away by OoT many years ago since Id already played a 3d zelda which also had better graphics (I really liked WW's cell shading.). What OoT did was create the most appealing envisionment of Hyrule and the lore around the triforce and whatnot. When I played through that game, I truely felt that it was within the same universe as the original Zelda which I aboslutely adored on the NES. TP's take on Hyrule didn't have the same feel for some reason. Im not sure exactly why. I also did not get the feeling of the true power of the master sword. It was more like "ok, you need to get it to move on", but not so much like it is this truely sacred relic.

I feel as though Nintendo is coming to a rough spot with the series. They could either revamp it and enrage many loyal fans or they could keep going with the same formula and run into the situation of verterans becoming jaded with it. Ultimately they need to find some balance between the two that will make most people happy (they will never please everyone, thats just how things are.)

What I think they need to do is to not keep restarting the series. I know there is much debate on the Zelda Timeline and how the games fit together ,with some theories being more widely accepted than others, but to me it seems as though you basically have 3 different envisionments of the Zelda universe

1- LOZ, Z2, LTTP, and LA

2-OoT, Oracles (?), MM, WW, and I think the phantom hrglass is supposed to be a WW sequel

3- TP

I would prefer they pick one version and stick with it. There maybe have a new villan that follows in Gannon's footsteps (or as in Z2 someone who tries to resurrect Gannon).

There are definetely a lot of people that aren't satisfied with TP, however its not often spoken of because when one person brings it up in the Wii forum, dozens attack the poster and claim it to be the best.

I dislike TP, its really the most boring and linear Zelda ever created.  Ocarina was great because of its pacing, when any one part grew too familiar or dull, they changed things up.

It doesn't help TP though that it's bosses are pretty boring and unimpressive.  Ocarina has multiple WOW moments where your just stunned at what your doing even if your playing it for the first time today.

TP seems to focus on action and less on adventure.  Think about it, 10 hours into TP your probably still stuck in the same village, but an hour into Ocarina, you can already visit Goron's, Zora's, and get a horse.

Zelda TP was really living up to all the hype it was getting alot of people were desperate to play a year ago and they delayed it. The game might not have lived up to everyones expectations but to some they claim it to be the best.   When Wind Waker came out got hammered by people because of the cel shaded graphics and the sailing sections but when you look at that it was a great achievement and was great to show that a Zelda game no matter what the graphics were like it was the gameplay that mattered. TP is a Zelda title Zelda fans must play.

I havent bought the game yet but I intend to. The only reason I been holding off is I am not sure if I want to get a Wii yet and if I do I will buy it for that. But hopefully when I do get it, it will live up to expectations. comb_over

Just rent it.