Does anyone think Soul Caliber II is better than SSBM?

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#1 manningbowl135
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I bought SSBM a couple weeks ago hoping it'll be a fun fighting game. It's good, but not nearly as good as it's hyped around here. Almost everyone's favorite or top 5 game. Most popular game on Gamerankings. I've even heard some people call it the best GC game. Anyway, I still want a top notch fighter game for GC. Anyone think SCII will be better?
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#2 piggwinn
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I did not like SSBM very much myselfbut I never did get to play it with more than two players. It was certainly a quality title but just didn't appeal to me the way Soul Caliber 2 does. I traded SSBM after about a month or so due to lack of use, but if you took my Soul Caliber 2 disc from me I would get very depressed very quickly. I just wish a Tekken or even better a Virtua fighter had been released on the cube just to have a change from weapon based combat.
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#3 monkey2go
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i never liked soul caliber though you can pretty much button smash and still somehow win and yeah super smash is only fun if you play more than 2
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#4 cougar65
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Leave now. Just go away. SC2 is a great game in its own right but please don't compare any fighting game to smash. There is no competition
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#5 MicWazowski
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Leave now. Just go away. SC2 is a great game in its own right but please don't compare any fighting game to smash. There is no competitioncougar65

I completely disagree. Super Smash Bros. Melee is a fun party game if you have multiple players, and great if you want a change of pace, but it is not a real fighting game. The non-existent single player modes, and extremely questionable character balance killed it for me.

TC, if you didn't like SSBM, Soul Caliber II will should suit you just fine. I would also suggest Capcom VS SNK 2: EO if you are a fan of 2D fighters.

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#6 Funkyhamster
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I enjoy SCII more as a fighting game, but SSBM more as a party game.
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#7 ShadowofTulkas
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I enjoy SCII more as a fighting game, but SSBM more as a party game.Funkyhamster

I agree. SCII is an excellent fighting game. But SSBM is the better party game. Either game has it's Button Mashers.......especiallySoul Calibur :(

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#8 Rocky32189
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Yes, Smash Bros is very overrated as a fighting game and as a game in general. Soul Calibur is a bit overrated as well. I would rank them both evenly personally. Each have their own merits and weaknesses.

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#9 dumb_person1
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Both games are pretty good and they are both fighting games, but in SSBM you can play in 4 players and in Soul Calibur 2 you play with 2 only and in SSBM fighting mode is more fun to play.
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#10 WSGRandomPerson
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IMO SSBM is better then SCII. I much rather play a 4 player fighting match, then a 2 player match. SSBM has more character selection to my liking, rather then SCII collection of characters..
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#11 d_parker
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SC 2 beats SSBM in my book anyday.

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#12 starfox19
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i think ssbm is better then soul caliber if you play with 2 or more people
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#13 Ophyre
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No way, SoulCalibur doesn't stand a chance against Malee
Malee has alot more character and stages; more action!

but SoulCalibur does have more strategy and graphics
still, Smash Bros. Malee hands down!

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#14 manningbowl135
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It's Melee dude. Anyway, I'm not enjoying it at all lately. SCII is only 10 bucks now. I'll get it soon. Can't hurt to have 2 fighting game.
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#15 BrokenNaginata
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Soul Calibur 2 is the best fighting game on the GameCube, period.
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#16 Revelade
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I would say both play differently and that I prefer Soul Calibur to SSBM.

Soul Calibur requires knowledge of the moves. To play properly you have to know the properties a move has in order to use it for the current situation. A constantly blocking opponent? Grab him. They keep dodging your attacks? Use a wide attack. So it's about memorizing moves and applying them in the right situations.

SSBM has a smaller moveset, so it's more about how you do the number of moves you have, rather than just knowing them. Moves in SC2 are generally easier to do, just input commands and watch. SSBM has a third dimension of gameplay and that's character movement. Your guy will be jumping around the stage and wherever.

If we were to measure balance, I would say SC2 is better at it. But playing SSB or SSBM means you accept this. Yes, a lot of my friends choose fox. I simply choose donkey kong to grab and suicide both of us for fun.

SSB is a game where you can goof off and have fun. I see SC as a game where you take time to learn the game and compete to see how well you do.

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#17 Rocky32189
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Soul Calibur requires knowledge of the moves. To play properly you have to know the properties a move has in order to use it for the current situation. A constantly blocking opponent? Grab him. They keep dodging your attacks? Use a wide attack. So it's about memorizing moves and applying them in the right situations.Revelade

I wouldn't really agree with that. Soul Calibur is very much a button masher. You really only need to know a few moves to do really well. And the game allows many cheap mechanics as well. For instance, most of the timeit's easy to just throw your opponent off the side of the stage for an instant win.

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#18 1aRmAnDo1
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i like smash bros a little more
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[QUOTE="Revelade"] Soul Calibur requires knowledge of the moves. To play properly you have to know the properties a move has in order to use it for the current situation. A constantly blocking opponent? Grab him. They keep dodging your attacks? Use a wide attack. So it's about memorizing moves and applying them in the right situations.Rocky32189

I wouldn't really agree with that. Soul Calibur is very much a button masher. You really only need to know a few moves to do really well. And the game allows many cheap mechanics as well. For instance, most of the timeit's easy to just throw your opponent off the side of the stage for an instant win.

I agree with Revelade although this is more so when playing single player. Regardless of single or multi player I still enjoyed SC2 much more.

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#20 Ellimist314
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SSBM is just a little more fun in my opinion.
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#21 Casiotech
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I own both. SCII is great but SSBM is more fun especially with a friend and there are some epic battles. Lots of nostalgia to unlock. Great levels/graphics/music.

I wish they made a VF or Tekken too, or even DOA but we can settle for MKDA MKDeceptions.

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[QUOTE="Revelade"] Soul Calibur requires knowledge of the moves. To play properly you have to know the properties a move has in order to use it for the current situation. A constantly blocking opponent? Grab him. They keep dodging your attacks? Use a wide attack. So it's about memorizing moves and applying them in the right situations.Rocky32189

I wouldn't really agree with that. Soul Calibur is very much a button masher. You really only need to know a few moves to do really well. And the game allows many cheap mechanics as well. For instance, most of the timeit's easy to just throw your opponent off the side of the stage for an instant win.

Agree. SSBM is better because those with skill will always win. In SCII, button mashers can beat some skilled players.

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#23 Funkyhamster
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Agree. SSBM is better because those with skill will always win. In SCII, button mashers can beat some skilled players.

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Eh, the problem I have with SSBM as a fighting game is just that people take it too seriously... it was always meant to be a lighthearted sort of thing, you know? Although that definitely is a valid criticism of SCII... every now and then I almost lose to somebody who's never played the game before just because I get lazy and they get lucky mashing.

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#24 anthonyActon
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They're different. Whereas Soul Calibur II is a proper fighter, SSBM is more of a party game. Depends what you're looking for.
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#25 Funkyhamster
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They're different. Whereas Soul Calibur II is a proper fighter, SSBM is more of a party game. Depends what you're looking for.anthonyActon

That pretty much sums up my opnion too...