what could have made the cube better?will the wii make nintendo bounce back?

what do you think would have made the game cube better?

my things are better games, better look, make it older (more T-M rated games, even tho there are a lot of T games) and have better launch titles.

 also, after the poor job gamecube did, do you think the wii will make nintendo. . . attract more buyers. after the gamecube i dont think too many pepole are going with nintendo

what do you think?

what do you think would have made the game cube better?

my things are better games, better look, make it older (more T-M rated games, even tho there are a lot of T games) and have better launch titles.

also, after the poor job gamecube did, do you think the wii will make nintendo. . . attract more buyers. after the gamecube i dont think too many pepole are going with nintendo

what do you think?

HockeyPlayr1134

It's all about online. Lack of online ultimately put the Gamecube in last place, and if Nintendo doesn't get thier ass in gear and get a standardized online format for the Wii (in which third parties can take their games online as well) the Wii will suffer the same fate as the Gamecube in the long run.

rite now da cheapest system out der is da wii... rite now nintendo is makin its share of da profit... later on, wen da ps3 and x360 get der price drops... well no one would be as interested in a wii...

The Gamecube didn't aim wide enough to get a large audience. To be better, it would have needed the types of games that really attracted people to the other consoles, like the multiplayer ones of the XBOX and the RPGs of the PS2.

A few shoot'em-ups and a few decent fighting titles could have improved the popularity of the Cube.

The Wii will definitely make Nintendo bounce back, at least for a few years. But when the games that everybody is waiting for will start coming out on the PS3 and the XBOX 360, with improved graphics and advanced multiplayer fonctions, I think the Wii will have a hard time competing against that.

I fully agree with YAGR_ZERO.

There was definately a lack of 3rd party support, especially in my two favorite genres, survival horror and role playing. For survival horror, niether "silent hill" nor "fatal frame" were exclusives, since they appeared on both PS2 & XBOX....so why not the NGC? The Cube was also lacking RPGs. You've got lots of ATLUS's games on the GBA, so why couldn't you get ports of some of thier PS2 RPGs, or at least one solid exclusive title? How about SEGA's "shining" series or something?

Nintendo is great with thier first party titles, but there is still a dire need for products from companies like Konami, Capcom, SquareEnix and so forth. 

As for the Wii "making Nintendo bounce back"....meh. I don't personally think Nintendo was dead in the first place, though I couldn't personally care less about the Wii. Nintendo has lost my business this round because the Wii is simply no match for either the PS3 or X360. It sells now because of the gimmicky controlls and the fact that its half the price of the real next gen consoles, but once the X360 and PS3 get their heavyweight titles out and systems are more affordable, they'll still be the benchmark. 

3rd party support of course. I also think that Nintendo screwed up a lot of their exclusives. Super Mario Sunshine was just too cooky and weird, as was Mario Kart.  Rareware is no longer making Starfox or Donkey Kong, those are made by Namco now and they certainly didn't do a good job. Look at Starfox Adventures (Rareware) which is great, now look at Starfox Assault (Namco) terrible. There were also great games that were pretty popular titles for the N64 that weren't so great on the GC, ex. Wave Race: Blue Storm, 1080 Avalanche, Mario Tennis etc. Nintendo should have put more time into those games instead of pumping out 27 Mario Party games.

 Look at Starfox Adventures (Rareware) which is great, now look at Starfox Assault (Namco) terrible. jakedogg14

LOL, I quess I have weird tastes. I didn't mind StarFox Assault, and I absolutely hated StarFox Adventures.

rite now da cheapest system out der is da wii... rite now nintendo is makin its share of da profit... later on, wen da ps3 and x360 get der price drops... well no one would be as interested in a wii...

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rite now da cheapest system out der is da wii... rite now nintendo is makin its share of da profit... later on, wen da ps3 and x360 get der price drops... well no one would be as interested in a wii...

soulsdeparting

I couldn't agree more SOULSDEPARTING.

It always makes me wonder.....do people purposely type like "dat"? do they speak like that verbally? Are they just trying to be cute? Or do they honestly just not get how rediculous it sounds?

Believe it or not, I never cared much for any online capability for any of the consoles. I have all the consoles, and only one next gen console, the Wii.

    I've always been a fan of Nintendo, and will stand by them. Yes there has been some lousy games for ALL of the consoles that Nintendo made, but don't tell me that you cannot come up with several GREAT titles for each of the console, including the Wii.

    I got the Wii because I like it. Yes it's a bit gimmicky, but I think over time, Nintendo will work around it. Who knows, maybe there will be several games that require to use the clas$ic controller. It does kind of suck that there's a few things that the Wii is lacking (ie - no rumble feature for N64 games), but there are things that makes up for it.

     I always feel that there's 3 different kind of gamers. Hardcore, intermediate, and casual gamers. The XBox is made for hardcore, the PS2 is intermediate to hardcore, and Nintendo is casual (with some exception of some games - Zelda, Mario, etc).

     I do not think Nintendo is meant to send out a next gen console that will beat the dog doo out of MS and Sony. It's meant for everybody. And you know what? It worked. You do not see Xbox in nursing homes. You do not see PS2 in your grandma's house, instead you see a Wii. That's a great thing. Think about it...when you're 70 years old, stuck in a nursing home or your children's house, and bored. What would you rather play? XBox with too many buttons to control while you have arthritis or the Wii, and all you have to do is flick the remote to roll the ball.

     Honestly, I think what would have made the cube BETTER, would probably be the graphics a little bit, and controller design. I don't really like the X/Y buttons, but I put up with it.  I don't care for DVD capability because why would Nintendo include that if a lot of people ALREADY have DVDs? 

       Lastly, why do you ask, "Will it make Nintendo bounce back?" Since when were they failing? Look at the DS sales! Look at Zelda! Look at Mario!

Sorry for such a long post. 

maybye dvd compatability 

What was exactly wrong with the system?  I found the Gamecube to be a great way to play games.  My brother originally had the 'Cube, but he gave it to me when he "upgraded" to an X-Box.  Now, I had the system until I got a Wii, and I still play my Gamecube games on it.

I did buy some games for the X-Box, since they did have some games I wanted to play (Breakdown, Raze's Hell, Suffering, Max Payne, just to name a few).  But, ultimately, I spent most of my time on the 'Cube.  I had Animal Crossing, which I played almost religiously until it became monotonous.  I played Super Mario Sunshine until I got every single Sprite, which took a long, long time.  I played both Metroid Prime and Echoes until I knew each item location by heart and had speed runs, and low percentage completions down.  Resident Evil 4 keeps my attention, and the rest of the RE games on the system.  Killer 7 is fantastic, DDR: Mario Mix is even good, and who can forget about Zelda?  Super Smash Bros. has been a great game to spend time with friends with.

The point with all that is - these are the same games that have kept us as gamers entertained as the years went by.  Three franchises have been on every Nintendo system (save for the Virtual Boy; R.I.P), and they stand the test of time.  Almost every game dealing with Mario, Link and Zelda, and Samus have been phenomonal.

The Gamecube was created to play games, and that was it.  I had no problem with the graphical power, the lack of a DVD player, and no online play.  Graphics don't influence gameplay (unless they are Godawful, like Odama), the DVD player is not needed; I have a PS2, N64, and a Wii in my room, as well as a DVD/VCR - the need for another DVD player is unneccessary.  Online play is nice, but nothing beats playing SSBM with your buddies in the room - that way, if they edge guard and kill you, you can punch them in the arm.  Sure, the system's 3rd Party support was lacking compared to the others, but that's the 3rd Party's problem.  Nintendo's games were great, and I still love playing them.

As for the Wii, I think that the system has potential.  I own it, and I love playing it.  I can only hope that they get the whole WiFi connection thing down, better than the DS.  The whole "friend-code" for every game is stupid, and would be way too difficult to keep track of.  I also hope that the games starting escalating in quality.  I own Zelda, Excite Truck, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Wii Play and Wii Sports, and while those are fun, I've played Red Steel, Far Cry and Tiger Woods, and they weren't the best games in the world - the controls were pretty bad in each of them.

I hope that they do the Wii-DS connectivity well.  Whenever that happens, I expect nothing but the best from the system, so that should be good.  I also enjoy the Virtual Console, but I want to see some more stuff coming from the downloads - how about Game Demos?  360 does it, and it's fantastic.  The Internet browser is ok, but how about a Keyboard? 

So, with that, I say good luck to the Wii - I will always enjoy the system, but my enjoyment is not enough for the system to get the props it deserves.  Right now the system is dominating sales, but how long will that last?  I work in retail at a Toy Store, and whenever we sell Wiis, we get lines in front of the door - that shows how well the system is doing.  They are selling like crazy, and I hope it stays that way for a long time.

1) What could have made the cube better?

More support from Nintendo.

2) Will the Wii make Nintendo bounce back?

Only if Nintendo supports it more. Yes, it's doing great now but what will keep it's momentum up in say a years time...?

What could have made the Cube better would have been Nintendo listening to the needs of the fans and actually looking at how the market was changing, adapting to it, rather than living in their own world.

Coming out of the N64, one thing became very, very clear.  FPS were going to be big.  When you ask N64 owners what were their favorite games, majority of the time people would easily say Goldeneye 64 and Perfect Dark, yet Nintendo had NOTHING from the very beginning to satisfy those fans who lived on those games.  It's just unbelievable how Nintendo did not realize how big FPS were when their previous console had the two BIGGEST FPS of that generation.

Another miscalculation Nintendo made was not seeing that Mature themed games were getting bigger and bigger and just like how they handled FPS, Nintendo missed the boat completely.

Nintendo will do better tha the Wii because how can they not?  Everything that could have went wrong with the GC did and things that you would never expect Nintendo to screw up, they did.

The only thing that could derail the Wii is Nintendo getting cocky and doing bonehead moves. 

Trust me, i have a Wii and it is amazing. My friend has a ps3, that sucks. My other friend has a 360, its good. Basically the Wii only has competiton with 360. I think this is Nintendo's year to shine.DaHumf

Again, I think price is the biggest factor, and that will fade a little. In my opinion, if the PS3 was $279 just like the Wii, you'd see Sony killing Nintendo, because there are millions upon millions of folks sitting around right now with huge PS1/PS2 libraries. There's no urgency right now with PS3 because eveyone knows the heavyweight games aren't out yet, and folks are hoping the price drops.

I'm not saying it reflects everyone, and granted the Wii is a fun system, but if all 3 systems came out at the same time for the same price, I'm not convinced the Wii would be as successfull. Eventually pricing on the X360 and PS3 will become more manageable, the heavy titles like "Final Fantasy 13" and "Halo 3" will arrive and we'll see where the people go.

Believe it or not, I never cared much for any online capability for any of the consoles. I have all the consoles, and only one next gen console, the Wii.

    I've always been a fan of Nintendo, and will stand by them. Yes there has been some lousy games for ALL of the consoles that Nintendo made, but don't tell me that you cannot come up with several GREAT titles for each of the console, including the Wii.

    I got the Wii because I like it. Yes it's a bit gimmicky, but I think over time, Nintendo will work around it. Who knows, maybe there will be several games that require to use the clas$ic controller. It does kind of suck that there's a few things that the Wii is lacking (ie - no rumble feature for N64 games), but there are things that makes up for it.

     I always feel that there's 3 different kind of gamers. Hardcore, intermediate, and casual gamers. The XBox is made for hardcore, the PS2 is intermediate to hardcore, and Nintendo is casual (with some exception of some games - Zelda, Mario, etc).

     I do not think Nintendo is meant to send out a next gen console that will beat the dog doo out of MS and Sony. It's meant for everybody. And you know what? It worked. You do not see Xbox in nursing homes. You do not see PS2 in your grandma's house, instead you see a Wii. That's a great thing. Think about it...when you're 70 years old, stuck in a nursing home or your children's house, and bored. What would you rather play? XBox with too many buttons to control while you have arthritis or the Wii, and all you have to do is flick the remote to roll the ball.

     Honestly, I think what would have made the cube BETTER, would probably be the graphics a little bit, and controller design. I don't really like the X/Y buttons, but I put up with it.  I don't care for DVD capability because why would Nintendo include that if a lot of people ALREADY have DVDs? 

       Lastly, why do you ask, "Will it make Nintendo bounce back?" Since when were they failing? Look at the DS sales! Look at Zelda! Look at Mario!

 

Sorry for such a long post. 

Lady_Sekhmet