2D or not 2D? Should we ban together to resurrect 2D, or let it go?

I don't know about you guys, but I am a big fan of 2D. I have notice that it's pretty much deceased as the next generation of games and systems enter the gaming industry, but I must say that I morn it's departure and wish for its triumphant return in the future. I know that as far as it's technical abilities when compared to 3D is concerned, it's beaten in about every aspect (except in memory and time consumption), but I believe there are some redeeming factors to making games in 2D.

First, if for nothing at all, I think the pure artistic aspect of 2D should keep it alive. Some 2D games just look amazing and help immerse the player into the world that they're engaged in. Games like "Odin Sphere" and "Valkyries Profile" are proof of this claim. The way the story is told and the world it involves is heighten by the fact that the world and its characters are in 2D. I think that if those games were created in a 3D world, they wouldn't be nearly as engrossing as they were. An example of this is within "Valkyries Profile 2: Silmeria". Don't get me wrong, it was a good game, but it just wasn't as immersive as the first "Valkyries Profile". I believe that it is because the first game was in 2D, and because the same story (told in a different part of time mind you) was in 3D, it didn't feel right. But, had they've done the game in 2D, I think it would have been a better game then it was.

Another reason we should keep 2D alive is that I don't think we have explored the gameplay possibilities that 2D could posses. Even though it is an old technology, I don't think we should just discard something that could break the monotonous flow of copy-cat game mechanics that we are slowly diving into. To be honest, I haven't really given any thought to the new way's that 2D could evolve a video games gameplay yet, but I am hoping that some individuals that read this can put their thoughts to what could be created.

And lastly, Some of our favorite games that were 2D hits, do not cross over well from 2D, even though they are still spectacular games and characters *cough sonic cough*. Please tell me what you think about 2D's current situation, and what can be done to resurrect it. Or you can tell me if you think 2D time is up and there is no hope for it.

When you talk about 2-D games, do you mean complete 2-D games (graphics & gameplay) or just 2-D gameplay?

I f we consider 2-D gameplay, it still has some good juice left (just look at LittleBigPlanet's 3-plane 2D gameplay with 3-D graphics). Another thing is if major developers are willing to use 2-D gameplay in a significant portion of the games to come, and I consider that they aren't willing enough to do so.

If we consider complete 2-D games, one of the advantages thatit brings is the part of lower development costs. Any good draughtsperson would be able to use cel-shading, pixel images, or even pictures in order to create backgrounds, objects & characters! Based on this, I consider 2-D games a pretty viable alternative for smaller &/or independent developers to make their games.

Overall, I would say 2-D games will be with us for a long time, but won't steal the spotlight 3-D gaming acquired in the 5th gen.

There should definately be more games in 2D. 2D games look absolutely beatiful these days. I mean just look at Muramasa.

When you talk about 2-D games, do you mean complete 2-D games (graphics & gameplay) or just 2-D gameplay?

I f we consider 2-D gameplay, it still has some good juice left (just look at LittleBigPlanet's 3-plane 2D gameplay with 3-D graphics). Another thing is if major developers are willing to use 2-D gameplay in a significant portion of the games to come, and I consider that they aren't willing enough to do so.

If we consider complete 2-D games, one of the advantages thatit brings is the part of lower development costs. Any good draughtsperson would be able to use cel-shading, pixel images, or even pictures in order to create backgrounds, objects & characters! Based on this, I consider 2-D games a pretty viable alternative for smaller &/or independent developers to make their games.

Overall, I would say 2-D games will be with us for a long time, but won't steal the spotlight 3-D gaming acquired in the 5th gen.

DragonxanderPR

When I say "2D", I am referring to the graphics and gameplay parts of 2D. Sorry I didn't point that out earlier, lol. Thanks for letting me know though ^.^

there will ALWAYS be a place for 2D, always...

more does not always = better

2D never died. It's just that mainstream gamers stopped paying attention to it. Year in and year out, some of my favourite games were 2D.

A comeback of 2D to the mainstream would be pretty interesting though. (As long as you newbs don't ruin shmups and 2D fighters).

I personally acually prefer 3D games.

I don't know why, I just do.

But there's some games I love that are in 2D, like the Pokémon games. Pure love for them, and I hope they won't go totally 3D on them.

And there's a special charm to full 2D fighting games....

That's all I have to say.

2D definitely needs to come back. 2D can do some things better than 3D like how there isn't a single 3D game with better level design than Sonic The Hedgehog 2. And we all know that some genres haven't done so great in 2D such as Platformers and especially Beat Em Ups. Beat Em Ups are dead because almost none of them are good in 2D. The only 3D Beat Em Ups I like are Fighting Force, Gekido, Die Hard Arcade and The Warriors. The only way we can revive the 2D genre is if we all make 2D games together. heh A few dozen of us would actually make/program the game while the thousands of less talented ones would do the game testing heh hehgunswordfist

I don't know about you guys, but I am a big fan of 2D. I have notice that it's pretty much deceased as the next generation of games and systems enter the gaming industry, but I must say that I morn it's departure and wish for its triumphant return in the future. I know that as far as it's technical abilities when compared to 3D is concerned, it's beaten in about every aspect (except in memory and time consumption), but I believe there are some redeeming factors to making games in 2D.

First, if for nothing at all, I think the pure artistic aspect of 2D should keep it alive. Some 2D games just look amazing and help immerse the player into the world that they're engaged in. Games like "Odin Sphere" and "Valkyries Profile" are proof of this claim. The way the story is told and the world it involves is heighten by the fact that the world and its characters are in 2D. I think that if those games were created in a 3D world, they wouldn't be nearly as engrossing as they were. An example of this is within "Valkyries Profile 2: Silmeria". Don't get me wrong, it was a good game, but it just wasn't as immersive as the first "Valkyries Profile". I believe that it is because the first game was in 2D, and because the same story (told in a different part of time mind you) was in 3D, it didn't feel right. But, had they've done the game in 2D, I think it would have been a better game then it was.

Another reason we should keep 2D alive is that I don't think we have explored the gameplay possibilities that 2D could posses. Even though it is an old technology, I don't think we should just discard something that could break the monotonous flow of copy-cat game mechanics that we are slowly diving into. To be honest, I haven't really given any thought to the new way's that 2D could evolve a video games gameplay yet, but I am hoping that some individuals that read this can put their thoughts to what could be created.

And lastly, Some of our favorite games that were 2D hits, do not cross over well from 2D, even though they are still spectacular games and characters *cough sonic cough*. Please tell me what you think about 2D's current situation, and what can be done to resurrect it. Or you can tell me if you think 2D time is up and there is no hope for it.

Neoreign

2D is still going strong on Nintendo's DS portable. But if you are asking if there should be more 2D games on the home systems, I would wholeheartily agree on that. I believe that 3D came on the scene too soon and that the 2D potential was not yet used up. The resession we are experiencing might be a good thing because 2D games cost a lot less to produce than 3D ones.

Personally, I find 2D games more fun than most recent 3D games! People like them because they usually have more action and less "strategy time", as to say you don't have to stop and review your steps or think about what to do next. 3D is more realistic and gamers have to deal with the realism of thinking before dying, like avoiding certain enemies and or find a clue in an enormous world around you.

In 2D, usually the character moves straight forward smashing anything that crosses our way. Associate that with the adenalin of the moment and you spend a few hours of fun, as games should be. Not to mention the controls problem that several times drain your patience way:evil:

Of course, it depends on the gamer perspective and the expectation towards a game, but I guess the "fun" part of 2D games doesn't let anyone down.

I don't know about you guys, but I am a big fan of 2D. I have notice that it's pretty much deceased as the next generation of games and systems enter the gaming industry, but I must say that I morn it's departure and wish for its triumphant return in the future. I know that as far as it's technical abilities when compared to 3D is concerned, it's beaten in about every aspect (except in memory and time consumption), but I believe there are some redeeming factors to making games in 2D.

First, if for nothing at all, I think the pure artistic aspect of 2D should keep it alive. Some 2D games just look amazing and help immerse the player into the world that they're engaged in. Games like "Odin Sphere" and "Valkyries Profile" are proof of this claim. The way the story is told and the world it involves is heighten by the fact that the world and its characters are in 2D. I think that if those games were created in a 3D world, they wouldn't be nearly as engrossing as they were. An example of this is within "Valkyries Profile 2: Silmeria". Don't get me wrong, it was a good game, but it just wasn't as immersive as the first "Valkyries Profile". I believe that it is because the first game was in 2D, and because the same story (told in a different part of time mind you) was in 3D, it didn't feel right. But, had they've done the game in 2D, I think it would have been a better game then it was.

Another reason we should keep 2D alive is that I don't think we have explored the gameplay possibilities that 2D could posses. Even though it is an old technology, I don't think we should just discard something that could break the monotonous flow of copy-cat game mechanics that we are slowly diving into. To be honest, I haven't really given any thought to the new way's that 2D could evolve a video games gameplay yet, but I am hoping that some individuals that read this can put their thoughts to what could be created.

And lastly, Some of our favorite games that were 2D hits, do not cross over well from 2D, even though they are still spectacular games and characters *cough sonic cough*. Please tell me what you think about 2D's current situation, and what can be done to resurrect it. Or you can tell me if you think 2D time is up and there is no hope for it.

2D is still going strong on Nintendo's DS portable. But if you are asking if there should be more 2D games on the home systems, I would wholeheartily agree on that. I believe that 3D came on the scene too soon and that the 2D potential was not yet used up. The resession we are experiencing might be a good thing because 2D games cost a lot less to produce than 3D ones.

I agree with most in saying 2D is already back. I don't even care if it is 2D sprites, just 2D playing surfaces with 3D models is fine in my book. Anyone here checked out R-Type Dimensions? Other than the crappy music, this is how 2D shooters should be done. On the fly 3D to 2D sprite changing, amazing 3D graphics and even a 'crazy' (their term) 30% angle to the 2D... I would love to see more 2D shooters redone in such a way. I would have to say Braid, World of Goo, Chalk, among many others are all awesome to play. Some of my favorite games on the X360 are the 'cheap' 2D ones.raahsnavj

ive always prefered 2d style of gameplay vs 3d. give me a 2d game with killer sprites and high definition backgrounds and ill be a happy camper. like i would play metal slug over CoD, street fighter 3 over soul caliber/tekken, and aero fighters/ raiden project/ gradius over ace combat anyday cuz even though they may look more simplistic, theyr still hella challenging and its acually more fun.FreshDimSum

IMO 2D will always look better then 3D

3D just seems like a fake copy, while 2D is orginal, sure 3D may be more real but 2D has that escapist sense that games need

IMO 2D will always look better then 3D

3D just seems like a fake copy, while 2D is orginal, sure 3D may be more real but 2D has that escapist sense that games need