a shooter where u can't kill...

am i boring now?

anyhow.. id like to develop an action adventure where you can't kill enemies.. if u kill an enemy it's game over.. u can neutralize an enemy with a shot, but that's it.. also the avatar u play as wont shoot at npcs..

is this stupid?

yeah.. maybe it is, but it's worth a thought none the less..

How would the game be action if cool things arent going on ( killing people ). I dont think this would be a good game.mosa922

Could be like a police takedown game. Death does not have to be included in the idea of action. Look at the Pokemon craze. They fall asleep when they run out of hit points...

SO you're talking about making a FPW?

a first person wounder...

hmmm doesn't have a ring to it

Thief already did this in 1998. Sorry.AtomicTangerine

is it game over in thief when u accidentally kill someone in that game?

Sometimes in XIII, you're told not to kill "innocents". They shoot at you, but if you shoot them, you get a Game Over. You can smash them with chairs to knock them out, though. :D

I don't really recommend playing XIII though.

am i boring now?

anyhow.. id like to develop an action adventure where you can't kill enemies.. if u kill an enemy it's game over.. u can neutralize an enemy with a shot, but that's it.. also the avatar u play as wont shoot at npcs..

is this stupid?

yeah.. maybe it is, but it's worth a thought none the less..

CARL

Super Mario Brothers - nobody ever dies because they keep coming back in sequels.

[QUOTE="AtomicTangerine"]Thief already did this in 1998. Sorry.CARL

is it game over in thief when u accidentally kill someone in that game?

Yep, if you play it on the hardest difficulty, (which is what the game is designed for anyway) killing somebody in most of the levels results in you losing. There are some levels where you square off against non-human foes and you can kill them, but for most of the game you can't kill what is trying to kill you.

Thief already did this in 1998. Sorry.AtomicTangerine

I think this is a great idea.

I think it's the idea that Hideo Kojima had for the first 3 MGS games, seeing as the player gets a higher score if less enemies are taken out...minus the game over

I actually enjoyed not taking out people. It made the game much more interesting for me.

That idea led me to play through Hulk: Ultimate Destruction's missions while hurting as few people as possible after I got all of his powers. It gave me something to do.

well then MAYBE i should check that game out..

i have to of course :P

am i boring now?

anyhow.. id like to develop an action adventure where you can't kill enemies.. if u kill an enemy it's game over.. u can neutralize an enemy with a shot, but that's it.. also the avatar u play as wont shoot at npcs..

is this stupid?

yeah.. maybe it is, but it's worth a thought none the less..

CARL

They hve one, its Called Metal Gear Solid.
(you get the idea)

ok, i just thought that in all these stealth games u get a game over if u get cought, and that often is the case if u make a lot of noise and kill guards and things like that.. this game wouldn't penalize u for getting cought, it wouldn't need to be a stealth game, u simply got penalized for killing someone in the game, killing would be forbidden.. that's all.. i think a lot of people here get mixed up with "not getting cought" and "not kill"

but yeah, maybe thiefs hard setting doesn't allow the player to kill guards, i have to check that out.. not that i think that i can find thief anywhere so.. but it doesn't matter that much anyways..

ok, i just thought that in all these stealth games u get a game over if u get cought, and that often is the case if u make a lot of noise and kill guards and things like that.. this game wouldn't penalize u for getting cought, it wouldn't need to be a stealth game, u simply got penalized for killing someone in the game, killing would be forbidden.. that's all.. i think a lot of people here get mixed up with "not getting cought" and "not kill"

but yeah, maybe thiefs hard setting doesn't allow the player to kill guards, i have to check that out.. not that i think that i can find thief anywhere so.. but it doesn't matter that much anyways..

CARL

Some of the stealth games does make it so that if you do get caught you get game-over.

Thief doesnt do that though. It makes your job harder if you do get caught, now that you've got a guard chasing you, but you can still fight back, lose him in a chase, or outsmart him.

As for copies of thief, i think you can find it. It still sells, considering it is the best stealth series. MGS and Splinter Cell are good, but one is much more story oriented and other is much more action oriented. Thief is a real stealth game.

Thief 1 and 2 - the better of the series.

Thief 3

I've used that site before, and i would recommend it.

I live by Thief.

That is all, taffers.