Adults Only DLC

Since companies are milking the idea of DLC, how about Adults Only DLC pack?

Basically the retail version is censored version, but if you buy DLC it unlocks uncensored version.

For price of 5 bucks, I think I'd get AO DLC packs. This way, gamers can finally have reliable access to AO games, and AO stuff is no longer doom for gaming industry.

Also this way, retail stores don't have to be burdened with carrying AO games.

As for console companies being a problem of this, I want to say they are renting R rated and Unrated movies over their online stores, so why should AO rated games be a problem on same online store?

Just thought this was good idea.

To me, I just think that there's starting to become a blur between M and AO content. From what I was told, you can have anything but simulated sex and still have a good chance at a M rating, so with that in mind, I really wouldn't care if there was AO DLC on the marketplace, since a M rated DLC could be just as bad.

Two problems:

Games are still percieved in the US and many parts of the world as being an entertainment medium made primarily for children. While it's starting to get mainstream acceptance it has a long way to go before it's held in the same regard as movies. The idea of making AO games still equates to many as nudity/sex/violence for children.

The other problem is that AO DLC isn't a workaround for the ESRB ratings. Remember that GTA : SA's sexual context was completely inaccessible from the normal game and could only be re-enabled with a hack, but when the ESRB found out the content was potentially there they forced a reclassification of the game to AO. If your game has the potential to become AO, then the game is rated AO.

-Byshop

Two problems:

Games are still percieved in the US and many parts of the world as being an entertainment medium made primarily for children. While it's starting to get mainstream acceptance it has a long way to go before it's held in the same regard as movies. The idea of making AO games still equates to many as nudity/sex/violence for children.

The other problem is that AO DLC isn't a workaround for the ESRB ratings. Remember that GTA : SA's sexual context was completely inaccessible from the normal game and could only be re-enabled with a hack, but when the ESRB found out the content was potentially there they forced a reclassification of the game to AO. If your game has the potential to become AO, then the game is rated AO.

-Byshop

Byshop

Don't Sims have nude character that has their private parts blurred out.

kind of like that, but sells nude patch online. That should be able to bypass ESRB since the patch is seperate content from the retail game. They can rate the patch, but not the retail game.

If the texture of private parts is not part of the retail game, and must be downloaded then I think ESRB won't be able to lable it AO, since DLC is seperate from the actual game.

I think..

As for the perception of majority of people out there, it will always be stuck as that perception unless someone takes a step forward and make a change.

Like nudity in movies and sex in movies. No one was ok with it when it first was out, but people got used to it now. You can't always be afraid of what the population thinks in this industry.

Well there is a nude patch but its not officially sanctioned by EA. I doubt they would even make one, since the modders do it. I think even if it doesnt equate to setting nudity/sex/violence to children the developers will still see it as unnecessary. They will just barely make games that are more extreme than a mature rating, now all developers play it stupidly safe.

Look at how manhunt 2 was destroyed because they were worried, and this is from rockstar!! If anyone you would expect rockstar to continue to make brutal games, but no they remove all of the gutting features and blur all of the kills. I never played the first one and didn't get the 2nd after hearing how they slashed out its heart.

Don't Sims have nude character that has their private parts blurred out.

kind of like that, but sells nude patch online. That should be able to bypass ESRB since the patch is seperate content from the retail game. They can rate the patch, but not the retail game.

If the texture of private parts is not part of the retail game, and must be downloaded then I think ESRB won't be able to lable it AO, since DLC is seperate from the actual game.

I think..

As for the perception of majority of people out there, it will always be stuck as that perception unless someone takes a step forward and make a change.

Like nudity in movies and sex in movies. No one was ok with it when it first was out, but people got used to it now. You can't always be afraid of what the population thinks in this industry.

TriangleHard

The ESRB actually has re-rated games because of nudity patches, even non-developer created ones. The point of the rating system is so parents know exactly how bad a game -can be- for their kids when they buy it. I understand what you're suggesting, I just don't think anybody would go for it. If a game can potentially become an AO game through hacks or downloads then the practice is to rate it AO on the shelf today.

Once games reach the same level of general acceptance as movies then I think we'll see a shift in this, but electronic games have only been around 20-30 years whereas movies have been with us since the turn of the century. These things take time.

-Byshop

Well there is a nude patch but its not officially sanctioned by EA. I doubt they would even make one, since the modders do it. I think even if it doesnt equate to setting nudity/sex/violence to children the developers will still see it as unnecessary. They will just barely make games that are more extreme than a mature rating, now all developers play it stupidly safe.

Look at how manhunt 2 was destroyed because they were worried, and this is from rockstar!! If anyone you would expect rockstar to continue to make brutal games, but no they remove all of the gutting features and blur all of the kills. I never played the first one and didn't get the 2nd after hearing how they slashed out its heart.

expandingeye

Which is why DLC is perfect.

What if MGS4 releases a nude patch now? Play as Naked Snake! They already had fine success and making nude patch is nothing more than few tweaks with character model and texture. Now you can see Snake's old saggy rear end.

You can avoid all the risk, stirr up the pot for controversy.

I think Rockstar kinda did this with recent DLC for GTA IV.

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Which is why DLC is perfect.

What if MGS4 releases a nude patch now? Play as Naked Snake! They already had fine success and making nude patch is nothing more than few tweaks with character model and texture. Now you can see Snake's old saggy rear end.

You can avoid all the risk, stirr up the pot for controversy.

I think Rockstar kinda did this with recent DLC for GTA IV.

TriangleHard

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Which is why DLC is perfect.

What if MGS4 releases a nude patch now? Play as Naked Snake! They already had fine success and making nude patch is nothing more than few tweaks with character model and texture. Now you can see Snake's old saggy rear end.

You can avoid all the risk, stirr up the pot for controversy.

I think Rockstar kinda did this with recent DLC for GTA IV.

Skylock00

Which is why I said DLC is perfect.

Make a retail game without those textures or model. Make them as DLC.

Release the DLC when the game is no longer part of major sales, so that AO tag won't hurt the sales.

Now what you have created is extra attention for old game that people forgot about.

Which is why I said DLC is perfect.

Make a retail game without those textures or model. Make them as DLC.

Release the DLC when the game is no longer part of major sales, so that AO tag won't hurt the sales.

Now what you have created is extra attention for old game that people forgot about.

TriangleHard

Why should I have to pay an extra amount to see some textures slapped on polygons moving in an inappropriate way.

If your chances of getting laid are that low then you always have japanese games

i think if they did this there would be way to many perverts playing on xbox live.

Even if DLC were a perfect content delivery system and you could guarantee that nobody under 18 could get their hands on it (which is pretty much impossible) there are tons of other ways that children would be able to see the missing AO content. Screenshots, Youtube, etc are all ways that children would be able to see the AO content their favorite game could provide.

Besides that, there's the question of intellectual property and branding. No game company is going to want their favorite money making mascots depicted in this way. A legitmate, mainstream patch for Tomb Raider (not some PC hack) that let you play a nude Lara would be the end of the franchise because Tomb Raider would now be associated with adult only content. The distinction of DLC would dissolve the deluge of bad press that Eidos would get.

-Byshop

Id really enjoy more adult content for games. Nudity is fun!

You get that before you even talk about retailers and junk, the real reason Manhunt 2 had so much trouble was Nintendo and Sony refusing to license the game. Why would they suddenly decide to start hosting content on a server that they don't want on their system?

You get that before you even talk about retailers and junk, the real reason Manhunt 2 had so much trouble was Nintendo and Sony refusing to license the game. Why would they suddenly decide to start hosting content on a server that they don't want on their system?

AtomicTangerine

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You get that before you even talk about retailers and junk, the real reason Manhunt 2 had so much trouble was Nintendo and Sony refusing to license the game. Why would they suddenly decide to start hosting content on a server that they don't want on their system?

Skylock00

Yeah, everybody acts like the ESRB is the bad guy by calling them like they see them while ignoring how console manufacturers are the ones who decide what gets on their system, not the ESRB. However, even if they did, I doubt retailers would carry the games, but at least they could exist as a legit game.