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No. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
Sometimes they can be but not all of them are. I think it's just that people sometimes tailor games to what is popular and sells. But I think this is a bit true about all genres not just jrpgs. I mean, how many fps games follow the same super badass marine fighting aliens in space theme? And how many gta clones came out after 3 came out? There will always be certain games that stick out and then a buttload of copycats in every genre.
sa10kun
It's true. Look at RE4 copies coming out now... It doesn't only happen in RPGs.
Well, I think it's not just JRPGs that follow or tend to follow a formula. So in some ways, it's kind of an unfair statement to accuse JRPGs of being all the same. That should be the right answer...but sometimes I do feel what you're saying.
After playing tons of JRPGs, I do sometimes feel that I'm playing the same ol` games with no new experiences. There have been a few that really provided a awesome experience, but for the most part, a lot of these JRPGs make a living catering to the same market that's been around for years...the anime/manga market, basically. I think most JRPGs are practically interactive manga/animes. It's really the same when you think about it, just different channels of entertainment.
So as long as the manga/anime scene is alive and hot in Japan...I don't see a change anytime soon. Yet there will be an occasional gem in the mix that is truly innovative and original...but it will be few and far between.
Yes,basically all games of a genre are the same.But ever tried to compare Grandia,FF8 and a game ofAtlus (actually all different from each other,including Persona 1-3,who are NOT SMT in original).All FPS are the same too but try to compare Riddick,Halo and Half-Life...
The Storyline differs in all genres not much...You save the world,yourself or your girlfriend or daughter.If not you have to get home from another dimension or planet.That´s it...it´s not like Movies are different.Is it important???I say no as long as I am entertained.BTW Second Sight and Farenheit are the only games with a pretty unusual Storyline in the last years...
white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
gamingqueen
[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
feel_freetwo
well I like comedy more than drama. Didn't I tell you that thousand times?
Sounds like you've personally played RPGs that are unique and unlike most other games.
Persona 3 really is different from every other RPG I've played.
[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
gamingqueen
well I like comedy more than drama. Didn't I tell you that thousand times?
i dont think white chicks is considered comedy. in order to be a comedy the film has to be some what funny.[QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
feel_freetwo
well I like comedy more than drama. Didn't I tell you that thousand times?
i dont think white chicks is considered comedy. in order to be a comedy the film has to be some what funny.Did you see how many users said Persona 3 is unique?
Are all sports games the same since they feature the same players and mechanics every yearly update? Are first person shooters the same because they involve guns and often times space marines and aliens?
Not a very insightful look into a tired way to bash JRPGs.
Do you really think all Japanese Role-playing games are the same when it comes to plot and character designs? I mean take for instance XenoGears it wasn't one of those cliched RPGs with the young teen I must save the world and have super Powers or the MC is half-demon looks like a girl like the Tales of games. What is your opinion( lets discuss) jasonharris48
I have two words for you: Eternal Sonata.
[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
gamingqueen
well I like comedy more than drama. Didn't I tell you that thousand times?
i dont think white chicks is considered comedy. in order to be a comedy the film has to be some what funny.Did you see how many users said Persona 3 is unique?
pretty sure they all like anime as well.[QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
feel_freetwo
well I like comedy more than drama. Didn't I tell you that thousand times?
i dont think white chicks is considered comedy. in order to be a comedy the film has to be some what funny.I thought the movie wasn't really good. But I cracked up when that guy was dancing with the whistle.hahaha.
[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]white chicks = 4 stars gladiator = 3 stars ????? sorring gamingqueen, your opinion on any narrative is pretty much void because of that nonsense opinion :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNo. If they were all the same I wouldn't feel different about some RPGs. Last RPg I've played was persona 3 on ps2. It didn't remind me of any RPG out there and it was realy unique. Read my review for more info on the game
It's true that the story in most RPGsis about saving the world from evil conquest but the success comes from being able to express it in a fresh and unqiue form. To me it's more challenging than having a new story which doesn't work most of the time.
sa10kun
well I like comedy more than drama. Didn't I tell you that thousand times?
i dont think white chicks is considered comedy. in order to be a comedy the film has to be some what funny.I thought the movie wasn't really good. But I cracked up when that guy was dancing with the whistle.hahaha.
whistle are always funny.[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Do you really think all Japanese Role-playing games are the same when it comes to plot and character designs? I mean take for instance XenoGears it wasn't one of those cliched RPGs with the young teen I must save the world and have super Powers or the MC is half-demon looks like a girl like the Tales of games. What is your opinion( lets discuss) AzelKosMos
I have two words for you: Eternal Sonata.
To continue through the door you opened up to edify our friend here
Then compare and contrast to Xenogears, to Chrono Trigger, to Star Ocean, to Parasite Eve to Earthbound to Final Fantasy 7.... the list goes on.
All of those games have VERY different plots and sets of characters (not to mention game mechanics and play and art style). While most of those were games made by Square or Squaresoft or Enix, they are all vastly different.
All the same? Exactly the opposite.
They're the most diverse genre of video games on the planet, next to maybe generic Action.
[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Do you really think all Japanese Role-playing games are the same when it comes to plot and character designs? I mean take for instance XenoGears it wasn't one of those cliched RPGs with the young teen I must save the world and have super Powers or the MC is half-demon looks like a girl like the Tales of games. What is your opinion( lets discuss) AzelKosMos
I have two words for you: Eternal Sonata.
I'm thinking of picking that up for 360but I might wait for the PS3 versioncompared to any other genre, RPG has most variety.
I think more people would agree that all FPS is the same than all JRPG being the same.
Thats is what funny about it alot of people don't. They tend to think JRPG's always has the metro sexual with spiky or scene hair stylesthat has super powers and has to save the world.compared to any other genre, RPG has most variety.
I think more people would agree that all FPS is the same than all JRPG being the same.
TriangleHard
[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Thats is what funny about it alot of people don't. They tend to think JRPG's always has the metro sexual with spiky or scene hair stylesthat has super powers and has to save the world.compared to any other genre, RPG has most variety.
I think more people would agree that all FPS is the same than all JRPG being the same.
jasonharris48
Yeah,they often got spik or funny colored hair and have to save the world with superpowers,but thats just a shell for the game which doesn´t really matter.The special of every RPG is how the story is told.Grandia 3 for example had a medicore storyline in his basics but thanks to the great character acting and warm-hearted scenes it get´s you.I think the game was really touching and that´s in fact unique and you won´t see that in a FPS or in any other genre.
Three pages into this thread, and nobody has linked to this yet?!
The Grand List Of Console Role Playing Game Clichés:http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
Ever wonder whypeople get into RPGs in the first place? Really, when you think about it, they're kind of tedious, boring, and a chore aren't they.
Honestly, even though I've played tons of JRPGs in the past, I think the stories and plots in them border more on insanity and ridiculousness ratherthan thoughtful, compelling narratives that really mean something.In that sense I think they could come off as being the same. The stories really make absolutely no sense most of the time, and even when they do, it's shallow and mellodramatic and doesn't quite hit the target at the point it's trying to make.
I think JRPGs have insane storylines. They make absolutely no sense whatsoever and they have no coherance. I don't know how many times where I was playing and I said, "What the hell?" to what I just played. It's just bizarre, whacky stuff.
I seriously don't even play JRPGs for the story anymore. I only look for three things now:
1. Fun gameplay and battle-system.
2. Attractive and good character designs.
3. Not a requirement, but I also look for development quality, meaning the level in production values, graphics, world design, etc.
If one of those isn't to my liking than it would just be a waste of time playing them.
I really don't care about the story anymore because I already know before I purchase a JRPG what I'm getting into storywise. It's going to be insane, it's going to be bizarre, it's Japanese manga/anime-styled storytelling, so I know what I'm getting into.
Ever wonder whypeople get into RPGs in the first place? Really, when you think about it, they're kind of tedious, boring, and a chore aren't they.
Honestly, even though I've played tons of JRPGs in the past, I think the stories and plots in them border more on insanity and ridiculousness ratherthan thoughtful, compelling narratives that really mean something.In that sense I think they could come off as being the same. The stories really make absolutely no sense most of the time, and even when they do, it's shallow and mellodramatic and doesn't quite hit the target at the point it's trying to make.
I think JRPGs have insane storylines. They make absolutely no sense whatsoever and they have no coherance. I don't know how many times where I was playing and I said, "What the hell?" to what I just played. It's just bizarre, whacky stuff.
I seriously don't even play JRPGs for the story anymore. I only look for three things now:
1. Fun gameplay and battle-system.
2. Attractive and good character designs.
3. Not a requirement, but I also look for development quality, meaning the level in production values, graphics, world design, etc.
If one of those isn't to my liking than it would just be a waste of time playing them.
I really don't care about the story anymore because I already know before I purchase a JRPG what I'm getting into storywise. It's going to be insane, it's going to be bizarre, it's Japanese manga/anime-styled storytelling, so I know what I'm getting into.
ASK_Story
And this is what we're trying to tell people here that some of the stories in JRPGs might sound alike but they're not alike actually. Just because they have a spiky-head character in a game doesn't mean they all have the same storyline.
The main reason I play JRPG's are for the story and characters and most of the time the plots do make senseEver wonder whypeople get into RPGs in the first place? Really, when you think about it, they're kind of tedious, boring, and a chore aren't they.
Honestly, even though I've played tons of JRPGs in the past, I think the stories and plots in them border more on insanity and ridiculousness ratherthan thoughtful, compelling narratives that really mean something.In that sense I think they could come off as being the same. The stories really make absolutely no sense most of the time, and even when they do, it's shallow and mellodramatic and doesn't quite hit the target at the point it's trying to make.
I think JRPGs have insane storylines. They make absolutely no sense whatsoever and they have no coherance. I don't know how many times where I was playing and I said, "What the hell?" to what I just played. It's just bizarre, whacky stuff.
I seriously don't even play JRPGs for the story anymore. I only look for three things now:
1. Fun gameplay and battle-system.
2. Attractive and good character designs.
3. Not a requirement, but I also look for development quality, meaning the level in production values, graphics, world design, etc.
If one of those isn't to my liking than it would just be a waste of time playing them.
I really don't care about the story anymore because I already know before I purchase a JRPG what I'm getting into storywise. It's going to be insane, it's going to be bizarre, it's Japanese manga/anime-styled storytelling, so I know what I'm getting into.
ASK_Story
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