Am I really in the wrong for leaving?

So today I was playing a game of L4D2 with friends, so thats a full game of 8 friends. We all know each other, have played with each other before and are aware of each others relative skill level. Well we all set ourselves to random and when steam assigns the teams, I can see from first glance that the teams are quite imbalanced. Basically my team had two players who just purchased the game a couple of days ago vs. a team of complete veterans. Well before the game even starts I tell everyone I don't think the teams are balanced and we should just simply put 1 new player on each team. That doesn't happen as the other team all refuse.

Sufficed to say my team got pasted, two rounds into the game we failed to stop them both times and they've stopped us right outside the safe room both times. Current score 1300 - 179.

At that point I mention again that the teams aren't fair and they should be able to see that. I then suggest a restart with new teams. Once again, they all refuse. So then I decide I'm going to put my foot down and not allow this kind of unbalanced matchmaking to continue and I simply leave the game.

Its then, that one of my friends on the other team starts msging me furiously about how I'm a sore loser and I can't handle the game. He keeps going on and on and on about how I am a rage quitter and I ruin things for others.

Now I realize it probably is rage quitting, and that such a thing is frowned upon but I mean this game was "ruined" for my team. We barely managed to get out the safe room both times. Probably spent only about 2 mins playing as survivors. I think its not too much to ask to have a competitive game, where the scores are close and its not one team steamrolling the other.

This is the kind of game I expect in random games not with friends.

So I ask you, was I wrong for leaving?

I would have left alot sooner before the score was that, so no you were right to leave

i'm not sure if you're wrong or not but i do think you and your friends are taking it far too seriously.

if the teams are unbalanced just get on with it and enjoy the game despite losing. if you're so concerned about the teams that you leave then so be it, your mate shouldn't hurl a string of insults at you.

all in all you both need to grow up and take the game a little less seriously.

Not wrong - if they're your friends they wouldn't keep doing this.

Well, of course if they're 'Steam' friends then that's different, because most players there are ..... mentally challenged.

I think you should have just waited until that match was over and, if they didn't change teams after that, refuse to start another match, as opposed to quitting the one you were already in. SpaceMoose

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]I think you should have just waited until that match was over and, if they didn't change teams after that, refuse to start another match, as opposed to quitting the one you were already in. MassEffect2

Good choice.

Personally, I think you are being very mature, and generous, by still referring to the individuals on the other team as your "friends". I would take issue with any supposed friend of mine who didn't immidiately rectify the imbalanced teams from the very start. You showed a lot of good grace and patience by going through a few matches before you got fed up.

I feel a bit bad for your two friends who had just recently gotten the game too...getting steam-rolled isn't exactly a pleasant and fun way to be introduced to a game. The4 people on the "veteran team" are definitely not your friends, whether you think of them as such or not.

In answer to your question, No you were not wrong.

I refuse to play with people who are crap, and i'm a very VERY abusive player who will hurt feelings and make the situation very uncomfortable. I can tolorate a little bit of crapness from my fellow players, but an excess of crapness and you need to leave, get out, GET OUT NOW!

Seriously I hate people who just can't learn. it's like they are some family man with a toddler on their knee and watching TV, i'm playing a team based game and my enjoyment is effected by their performance, if they can't focus they should be playing Mario on the super Nintendo seriously, get out of my game.

I'm good at spotting a bad player, I mean you got to give people some chance, perhaps there is something I might of overlooked and you musn't jump to a conclusion but no, some people are just BAD! Like really, really BAD! Seriously, I play games better then a lot of guys i've seen when I was 5 years old. It's like they are playing in a games shop in some town center and it's got the game set up on the shop floor with 2 joypadswith "LEFT 4 DEAD 2" and a toddler eating a biscuit is **** about with the controller.

I just leave them behind, i've found I am quite capable of handling the whole game with just 2 decent players, VS mode included. A good sound system and a sense of aweness, complete with a no messing about approuch to each mission, knowing when to rush and when not to, timing the spawn times of the enemy, if I can blow my trumpet about one thing it's that i'm damn good at Left 4 Dead 1 & 2. The sound part is very important, as I got my tuned so well I can pinpoint the location of a monster behind a wall and shoot through it with the hunting rifle, which has often lead to people screaming "CHEAT!"

i think you and your friends are taking it far too seriously. you both need to grow up and take the game a little less seriously.

my_name_is_ron

if the teams are unbalanced just get on with it and enjoy the game despite losing.my_name_is_ron

In answer to your question, No you were not wrong.

I refuse to play with people who are crap, and i'm a very VERY abusive player who will hurt feelings and make the situation very uncomfortable. I can tolorate a little bit of crapness from my fellow players, but an excess of crapness and you need to leave, get out, GET OUT NOW!

Seriously I hate people who just can't learn. it's like they are some family man with a toddler on their knee and watching TV, i'm playing a team based game and my enjoyment is effected by their performance, if they can't focus they should be playing Mario on the super Nintendo seriously, get out of my game.

I'm good at spotting a bad player, I mean you got to give people some chance, perhaps there is something I might of overlooked and you musn't jump to a conclusion but no, some people are just BAD! Like really, really BAD! Seriously, I play games better then a lot of guys i've seen when I was 5 years old. It's like they are playing in a games shop in some town center and it's got the game set up on the shop floor with 2 joypadswith "LEFT 4 DEAD 2" and a toddler eating a biscuit is **** about with the controller.

I just leave them behind, i've found I am quite capable of handling the whole game with just 2 decent players, VS mode included. A good sound system and a sense of aweness, complete with a no messing about approuch to each mission, knowing when to rush and when not to, timing the spawn times of the enemy, if I can blow my trumpet about one thing it's that i'm damn good at Left 4 Dead 1 & 2. The sound part is very important, as I got my tuned so well I can pinpoint the location of a monster behind a wall and shoot through it with the hunting rifle, which has often lead to people screaming "CHEAT!"

Evil_Saluki

Games are serious business :roll:

For the OP I would seriously question the "friends" that let 2 new people just get butchered.

I think you were right to leave.

It's not rage-quitting if you have a perfectly logical reason to leave. Who would want to sit there and get owned when the teams are so obviously stacked?

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]if the teams are unbalanced just get on with it and enjoy the game despite losing.muthsera666

you wouldnt want to play with me then =PAllicrombie

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

i think you and your friends are taking it far too seriously. you both need to grow up and take the game a little less seriously.

Aero5555

Serious business.

First, get over it. Who cares if it's unbalanced? They gotta learn sometime, and they learn a lot faster when they get the crap kicked out of them. I think your 'friend' counter-raged, but you did indeed /nerdrage. Dear lord, you wouldn't last 5 seconds in MMO PvP. You'd be the dude we see on youtube who puts his keyboard through the monitor cause a rogue just stun locked and owned him.

I think you pulled the real dick move by ditching the new guys, though. Sure, your 'friends' on the opposing side were being asses by not wanting to switch up teams, but no more than you ditching your 'friends' who were new to the game.

I guess there is a few things I've left out of this explanation here

1. My 2 "newb" friends were actually getting pretty fed up with the situation and I didn't want them to have a horrible first experience.

2. I actually discussed it with my teammates and if I hadn't left, they would have. In fact I volunteered to "take the bullet" in order to try and smooth out the game. You'll see how in point 3.

3. I warned my friends on the opposing team prior to me leaving that if the teams weren't rebalanced I would leave. There wasn't a response and they simply continued to proceed as survivors. I warned them again, just in case they missed the message and still no answer. So I left

4. We had a big steam conversation setup prior to the match for organizing things; I used that conversation to then once again propose a new game where I actually suggested some premade teams.

Now, I mean, like I said before, I expect this kind of thing in internet matches in all types of games. Those have so much randomness to them that its bound to happen theres going to be some kind of unbalance games. The thing I had issue with in this situation was it was a friends game, where everyone knows everyone elses skill level. Its a very simple matter to switch a teammate or restart a game(unlike with internet people) yet the idea was refused, as if the 1 min it takes to go back to the lobby and restart was a huge waste of time.

In the end, I'm really just venting here as I don't want to vent onto my other friends and perhaps tick them off even more.

And I will agree 100%, this got taken way too seriously

They gotta learn sometime, and they learn a lot faster when they get the crap kicked out of them.Khadaj32

You're not wrong for leaving, but you could have probably just threatened to do it first unless the teams were balanced out before just flat out leaving.ElMikeO

They said that you ruined the game for them, with out thinking that the game was all ready ruined for you.