which one of those awesome games is the best?
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Chrono Trigger is terrible with music as its only savior with brken gameplay, reptetive gameplay, dargs on, too many fillers, a non indepth plot, and terrible characterpersonalities. FF6 is terrible, not much variety, terrible roster of characters, pointless quests, draged on grinding, uninteresting puzzles, repetitive combat system. Earth Bound does nothing right and had no idea what kind of game it wants to be. Mario Rpgs are a whole paragraph of problems. Other is the correct answer. FFV BOF BOF3 DW5 7TH Saga RoboTech That's it for originality.which one of those awesome games is the best?
quebec946
[QUOTE="quebec946"]Chrono Trigger is terrible with music as its only savior with brken gameplay, reptetive gameplay, dargs on, too many fillers, a non indepth plot, and terrible characterpersonalities. FF6 is terrible, not much variety, terrible roster of characters, pointless quests, draged on grinding, uninteresting puzzles, repetitive combat system. Earth Bound does nothing right and had no idea what kind of game it wants to be. Mario Rpgs are a whole paragraph of problems. Other is the correct answer. FFV BOF BOF3 DW5 7TH Saga RoboTech That's it for originality.which one of those awesome games is the best?
Jakandsig_
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Lufia is my favorite for the SNES tho Super Mario RPG is a close second. Wasn't big into Final Fantasy until VII on the PS1.
Final Fantasy VI, my favorite Final Fantasy and probably my favorite SNES RPG though I didn't get to play it until it came to the PS1.
Chrono Trigger is terrible with music as its only savior with brken gameplay, reptetive gameplay, dargs on, too many fillers, a non indepth plot, and terrible characterpersonalities. FF6 is terrible, not much variety, terrible roster of characters, pointless quests, draged on grinding, uninteresting puzzles, repetitive combat system. Earth Bound does nothing right and had no idea what kind of game it wants to be. Mario Rpgs are a whole paragraph of problems. Other is the correct answer. FFV BOF BOF3 DW5 7TH Saga RoboTech That's it for originality.[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="quebec946"]
which one of those awesome games is the best?
quebec946
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On a system were over 50% are copy cats and take idea and do almost nothing to add significant difference I would say you're trolling.[QUOTE="lordoftheleft"]What about that game made you like it.No Secret of Mana anyone?
Jakandsig_
Hmm? do you consider it strange or something to like it? It was a pretty successful and well received game.
What about that game made you like it.[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="lordoftheleft"]
No Secret of Mana anyone?
lordoftheleft
Hmm? do you consider it strange or something to like it? It was a pretty successful and well received game.
It was well received and was not successful until years later like a lot of other Jrpgs on the system. How ever I noticed you didn;t answer the question. Why would you recommend it in this thread? You seem dissapointed it was not included, why? @Vugh same thing.[QUOTE="lordoftheleft"][QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] What about that game made you like it.Jakandsig_
Hmm? do you consider it strange or something to like it? It was a pretty successful and well received game.
It was well received and was not successful until years later like a lot of other Jrpgs on the system. How ever I noticed you didn;t answer the question. Why would you recommend it in this thread? You seem dissapointed it was not included, why? @Vugh same thing.Because it's one that I think gets passed over a lot. In terms of quality I'd compare along side the games listed in the poll. Still not gonna answer your question though.:P
It was well received and was not successful until years later like a lot of other Jrpgs on the system. How ever I noticed you didn;t answer the question. Why would you recommend it in this thread? You seem dissapointed it was not included, why? @Vugh same thing.[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="lordoftheleft"]
Hmm? do you consider it strange or something to like it? It was a pretty successful and well received game.
lordoftheleft
Because it's one that I think gets passed over a lot. In terms of quality I'd compare along side the games listed in the poll. Still not gonna answer your question though.:P
Lol made you rethink that one didn't I? Another win.Lol made you rethink that one didn't I? Another win.Jakandsig_
What is it exactly that you think you won?
[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"]
Lol made you rethink that one didn't I? Another win.lordoftheleft
What is it exactly that you think you won?
I am the new Lord of the left obviously go to the right with you.[QUOTE="lordoftheleft"][QUOTE="Jakandsig_"]
Lol made you rethink that one didn't I? Another win.Jakandsig_
What is it exactly that you think you won?
I am the new Lord of the left obviously go to the right with you.Well I'm still saying Secret of Mana deserves to be on the list. So you really didn't make me re evaluate my opinion on the game, nor did you win anything.
Earthbound.
Followed by Chrono Trigger/FF6.
There are some games you should have included in the list though.
Final Fantasy 6, followed very closely by Chrono Trigger. Earthhbound is a solid third. Super Mario RPG is really good too, but not in the same league as the others IMO.
Wow I swear god forbid if you critize a fanboys game all logic flys out the window. You clearly stated the reason mainly why the game is one of he best is because you believe it did things that werenot usuallydone/popularized until later, yet at that same period plenty of games did. Basically you called it unique in some ares where it wasn;t except for the ares it was. You never actually sated one thing it actually had over other games. I never said NOOPPPEEE either. Only your last 2 points can even BE relevant and yet You seem to have the wrong definition of Depth. So I still don;t exactly know what you're getting at, and uh, you went from mature story to being gos which does not tell me how the story is mature.Jakandsig_
Jakandsig stop being a chooch and go troll somewhere else. I didn't see anyone disparaging the games you listed or your opinions on them.
[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Wow I swear god forbid if you critize a fanboys game all logic flys out the window. You clearly stated the reason mainly why the game is one of he best is because you believe it did things that werenot usuallydone/popularized until later, yet at that same period plenty of games did. Basically you called it unique in some ares where it wasn;t except for the ares it was. You never actually sated one thing it actually had over other games. I never said NOOPPPEEE either. Only your last 2 points can even BE relevant and yet You seem to have the wrong definition of Depth. So I still don;t exactly know what you're getting at, and uh, you went from mature story to being gos which does not tell me how the story is mature.lordoftheleft
Jakandsig stop being a chooch and go troll somewhere else. I didn't see anyone disparaging the games you listed or your opinions on them.
Stop being ignorant of what's going on. I am asking to provide a reason for thinking game is the best reason of all time, I get responses that are based off ignorance and vague explaination or the wrong explaination I am not bagging on the games, I am bagging on the fact no one seems to actually have a reason why or at least this person. The games I listed was directled to an earlier post which was talking about originality which a large chucnk of Jrpgs on the SNES DO NOT Have regardless if you would kill yourselves for them. I didn;t even give my opinions on the games I listes. So again, it's like your looking to start something when there's nothing to start.Funny how this guy calls people stupid and ignorant, and then uses the worst grammar and punctuation from someone trying to sound intelligent that I have ever seen. When you use a contraction, use an apostrophe, not a semicolon, genius.
Stop being ignorant of what's going on. I am asking to provide a reason for thinking game is the best reason of all time, I get responses that are based off ignorance and vague explaination or the wrong explaination I am not bagging on the games, I am bagging on the fact no one seems to actually have a reason why or at least this person. The games I listed was directled to an earlier post which was talking about originality which a large chucnk of Jrpgs on the SNES DO NOT Have regardless if you would kill yourselves for them. I didn;t even give my opinions on the games I listes. So again, it's like your looking to start something when there's nothing to start.Jakandsig_
It's really difficult to follow your train of thought it's like trying to understand the ramblings of a crazy person. What makes you think that you are entitled to a answer. If someone likes a game then they don't need a reason to like it other than they had good time playing it, and they certainly don't have to justify their opinion to you just so you can automatically take up a contradictory position. What you don't seem to get is taste is subjective and there's no right or wrong answer in regards to someone's personal preference
I want you to explain to me in excruciating detail why those games you listed were original. So I can just automatically contradict your explanation and tell you that your wrong.
\Gosh they are right next to eachother. Could it be I accidentally pressed the wrong key? I mean apparently you lack any sort of brain comprehension because it seems impossible for you to figure out something that simple. Oh my.Funny how this guy calls people stupid and ignorant, and then uses the worst grammar and punctuation from someone trying to sound intelligent that I have ever seen. When you use a contraction, use an apostrophe, not a semicolon, genius.
TheBlackKnight3
[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"]
Stop being ignorant of what's going on. I am asking to provide a reason for thinking game is the best reason of all time, I get responses that are based off ignorance and vague explaination or the wrong explaination I am not bagging on the games, I am bagging on the fact no one seems to actually have a reason why or at least this person. The games I listed was directled to an earlier post which was talking about originality which a large chucnk of Jrpgs on the SNES DO NOT Have regardless if you would kill yourselves for them. I didn;t even give my opinions on the games I listes. So again, it's like your looking to start something when there's nothing to start.
It's really difficult to follow your train of thought it's like trying to understand the ramblings of a crazy person. What makes you think that you are entitled to a answer. If someone likes a game then they don't need a reason to like it other than they had good time playing it, and they certainly don't have to justify their opinion to you just so you an automatically take up a contradictory position. What you don't seem to get is taste is subjective and there's no right or wrong answer in regards to someone's personal preference
I want you to explain to me in excruciating detail why those games you listed were original. So I can just automatically contradict your explanation and tell you that your wrong.
You're really reaching for something that isn;t there. Comprehend this for a second, notice that I asked somene what about that games makes you think it should be on the list. If they answer back it means it's a conversation. I then asked to be mre elaborate whuch he tried. I don't see why that part confuses you, I guess if you stayed in school. Contradictory position? Are you completely stupid? Taste has nothing to so with anything I wrote, in fact, you either didn't read it or a moron. If for exampleyou say that a game such as Sonic is one of the best platformers of all time because you: 1. Collect things 2. Have fast attacks 3. Colorful stages. those are all invalid reasons. His while not as obvious were also invalid. I only listed games that were not trying to copy something else. Or at least attempts to make it diffriate itself in the long run which most SNES Jrpgs DO NOT DO. So again, are you just not able to put words into context? The reason why FFV is criticized and most likely the most ignored (Debatable) in the series is because it takes a different route (and apparentlythey don;t like the sotry either.) Breath of Fire Has the ability to turn into dragons fuse with allies, use spcial abilities as a requirment as another character in the overoworld (Day night cycles arent exactly new but at the same time barely any games used it on the SNES) I have no idea where BOF3 came from I think that happened while I was searching something about it. Dragon Quest 5 to be honest not many games play like it in the gen. Not many FP type Jrpgs on SNES and the way you interact is different too granted. 7th Saga is a challenging game that has many paths that can make you start from the begining again with a interesting Battle System animation and many alternate storys with different types of stats. Robotech, Unique battle system, odd plot, odd enemies, robot things, there's nothing like this game on the system. Almost all other games copy another game, take somethig from another game and barely improve it, or anything similar to those two. You can't say that's wrong when it's true. You may love the game but almost every other game lack originality. SNES speaking of courseYou're really reaching for something that isn;t there. Comprehend this for a second, notice that I asked somene what about that games makes you think it should be on the list. If they answer back it means it's a conversation. I then asked to be mre elaborate whuch he tried. I don't see why that part confuses you, I guess if you stayed in school. Jakandsig_
That would have been fine if you weren't so overly opinionated and pompous.
Contradictory position? Are you completely stupid? Taste has nothing to so with anything I wrote, in fact, you either didn't read it or a moron. If for exampleyou say that a game such as Sonic is one of the best platformers of all time because you: 1. Collect things 2. Have fast attacks 3. Colorful stages. those are all invalid reasons.
His while not as obvious were also invalid. Jakandsig_
Taste has everything to do with what you wrote. Tell me something are you a video game journalist? Do you make a living praising games worth? What makes your opinion or evaluation of a games merit any more valid than that off Vighneshvara's?
I only listed games that were not trying to copy something else. Or at least attempts to make it diffriate itself in the long run which most SNES Jrpgs DO NOT DO. So again, are you just not able to put words into context? The reason why FFV is criticized and most likely the most ignored (Debatable) in the series is because it takes a different route (and apparentlythey don;t like the sotry either.) Breath of Fire Has the ability to turn into dragons fuse with allies, use spcial abilities as a requirment as another character in the overoworld (Day night cycles arent exactly new but at the same time barely any games used it on the SNES) I have no idea where BOF3 came from I think that happened while I was searching something about it. Dragon Quest 5 to be honest not many games play like it in the gen. Not many FP type Jrpgs on SNES and the way you interact is different too granted. 7th Saga is a challenging game that has many paths that can make you start from the begining again with a interesting Battle System animation and many alternate storys with different types of stats. Robotech, Unique battle system, odd plot, odd enemies, robot things, there's nothing like this game on the system. Almost all other games copy another game, take somethig from another game and barely improve it, or anything similar to those two. You can't say that's wrong when it's true. You may love the game but almost every other game lack originality. SNES speaking of courseJakandsig_
Subjective, subjective, subjective, there is alot of your opinion in here. Also your explanation was not ''valid'' enough for me
Elaborate
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[QUOTE="TheBlackKnight3"]\Gosh they are right next to eachother. Could it be I accidentally pressed the wrong key? I mean apparently you lack any sort of brain comprehension because it seems impossible for you to figure out something that simple. Oh my.Funny how this guy calls people stupid and ignorant, and then uses the worst grammar and punctuation from someone trying to sound intelligent that I have ever seen. When you use a contraction, use an apostrophe, not a semicolon, genius.
Jakandsig_
I also think it's funny that you continue to insult a person's intelligence without knowing anything about them, and at the same time showing how stupid you are. You know what the internet is for? It's for spreading knowledge and information but the only thing you seem to be spreading is ignorance.
[QUOTE="Jakandsig] Over opiniated, you're evaluating games, blah blah.lordoftheleftMost of it isn;t andyou porbably never played all the games listed or any. When it come to orginality in Jrpgs thse are the best on the SNES. I mean I have to elaborate what the word ORIGINAL means? These are facts, regardless of how stupid you are Copy cat games are not being original. If you're too stupid torealize that you're too stupid. Also I am not over opiniated, you're overly dumb and fail to comprehend something as simple as a conversation. I am not evaluating games either, Persons in previous posts which you seem to be too scared to read as it would make you look like a moron, are trying to say their best games is based off the game being unique/original when said thing are not clearly. The Sonic example is a true one, you're just too shallow minde to see how simple of a concept it is. It's very simple.
[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="TheBlackKnight3"]
Funny how this guy calls people stupid and ignorant, and then uses the worst grammar and punctuation from someone trying to sound intelligent that I have ever seen. When you use a contraction, use an apostrophe, not a semicolon, genius.
\Gosh they are right next to eachother. Could it be I accidentally pressed the wrong key? I mean apparently you lack any sort of brain comprehension because it seems impossible for you to figure out something that simple. Oh my.I also think it's funny that you continue to insult a person's intelligence without knowing anything about them, and at the same time showing how stupid you are. You know what the internet is for? It's for spreading knowledge and information but the only thing you seem to be spreading is ignorance.
I also think it's funny you like to say I am spreading ignorance when you don;t even know what's going on and continue to act like a moon spreading stupidity.[QUOTE="TheBlackKnight3"][QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] \Gosh they are right next to eachother. Could it be I accidentally pressed the wrong key? I mean apparently you lack any sort of brain comprehension because it seems impossible for you to figure out something that simple. Oh my.Jakandsig_
I also think it's funny that you continue to insult a person's intelligence without knowing anything about them, and at the same time showing how stupid you are. You know what the internet is for? It's for spreading knowledge and information but the only thing you seem to be spreading is ignorance.
I also think it's funny you like to say I am spreading ignorance when you don;t even know what's going on and continue to act like a moon spreading stupidity.Let me tell you a couple things. First of all, you aren't really making a point with all your posts. People don't really take offense of what they hear about themselves on the internet. Secondly, the way you post doesn't really leave a good impression on people, and soon they are just going to wait until you get bored and leave if you continue. Third, you can't really win an arguement over the internet. You may feel you've won if you close your ears and say "lalalala" until the other person gets tired of talking, but really, in the end, it's you who lost. Although this whole post was somewhat pointless because there's pretty much only two responses to this from someone like you. Either say how stupid it was or simply not read it.
Most of it isn;t andyou porbably never played all the games listed or any. When it come to orginality in Jrpgs thse are the best on the SNES. I mean I have to elaborate what the word ORIGINAL means? These are facts, regardless of how stupid you are Copy cat games are not being original. If you're too stupid torealize that you're too stupid.Jakandsig_
What are you talking about? When did I bring up the question of originality? I don't care about your list of games that you think are the most original for the SNES get over your self. I was just using that as an excuse to berate you as you did Vighneshvara I also think it's hilarious that you think calling someone stupid will help illustrate your point. If anything it does the exact opposite. What are you twelve?:lol:
Also I am not over opiniated, you're overly dumb and fail to comprehend something as simple as a conversation.Jakandsig_
I'd say that's a pretty strong opionion.
I am not evaluating games either, Persons in previous posts which you seem to be too scared to read as it would make you look like a moron, are trying to say their best games is based off the game being unique/original when said thing are not clearly. The Sonic example is a true one, you're just too shallow minde to see how simple of a concept it is. It's very simple.Jakandsig_
Let me get you back on track because you are all over the place. The point I've been making the whole time is You asked me and Vighneshvara to explain why we liked the games we mentioned. Let me guess you don't like those games and you wanted to explain to us in lurid detail why our opinion's are wrong. It's obvious on how you critiqued Vighneshvara explanation that was your intent to begin with. You asked him to explain his reasoning for his post which was a set up so you could pick his explanation apart piece by piece which you also tried to do with me. I just didn't care enough to actually try to explain to you why I thought Secret of Mana was one of the great SNES rpg's. I'm sure if I did you would surely have pointed out exactly why my reasoning is wrong.
You were obviously set out to troll as soon a you started posting on this topic. Your first post on this topic was more or less in the lines of all of theses games in this poll suck. Then you started to berate peoples opinion's. So your either you are a troll or a overly opinionated pompous chooch. Maybe both
Now stop trolling and let this topic get back on subject. The topic is what game out of the ones listed in the poll is the best. Not which games Jakandsig thinks sucks or are the most original. As much as I enjoy arguing with you this whole debate is getting very basement dwellerish. And if I continue to try and decipher your crazed ramblings my heads gonna explode.
[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"]
What are you talking about? When did I bring up the question of originality? I don't care about your list of games that you think are the most original for the SNES get over your self. I was just using that as an excuse to berate you as you did Vighneshvara I also think it's hilarious that you think calling someone stupid will help illustrate your point. If anything it does the exact opposite. What are you twelve?:lol:
Also I am not over opiniated, you're overly dumb and fail to comprehend something as simple as a conversation.Jakandsig_
I'd say that's a pretty strong opionion.
I am not evaluating games either, Persons in previous posts which you seem to be too scared to read as it would make you look like a moron, are trying to say their best games is based off the game being unique/original when said thing are not clearly. The Sonic example is a true one, you're just too shallow minde to see how simple of a concept it is. It's very simple.Jakandsig_
Let me get you back on track because you are all over the place. The point I've been making the whole time is You asked me and Vighneshvara to explain why we liked the games we mentioned. Let me guess you don't like those games and you wanted to explain to us in lurid detail why our opinion's are wrong. It's obvious on how you critiqued Vighneshvara explanation that was your intent to begin with. You asked him to explain his reasoning for his post which was a set up so you could pick his explanation apart piece by piece which you also tried to do with me. I just didn't care enough to actually try to explain to you why I thought Secret of Mana was one of the great SNES rpg's. I'm sure if I did you would surely have pointed out exactly why my reasoning is wrong.
You were obviously set out to troll as soon a you started posting on this topic. Your first post on this topic was more or less in the lines of all of theses games in this poll suck. Then you started to berate peoples opinion's. So your either you are a troll or a overly opinionated pompous chooch. Maybe both
Now stop trolling and let this topic get back on subject. The topic is what game out of the ones listed in the poll is the best. Not which games Jakandsig thinks sucks or are the most original. As much as I enjoy arguing with you this whole debate is getting very basement dwellerish. And if I continue to try and decipher your crazed ramblings my heads gonna explode.
I know you didn;t bring up originality but that was the POINT and you jumped in on it so you ended up in the conversation. That was the whole point of almost all the posts. It's all not what I THINK are the most original, look up the definition of original in the context I am using it. How in the hell are even half the SNES jrpgs original/ It's not an opinion, whther the games are good? That's a completely different thing. I find it funny you can;t get how simple that is. I have been in the same place the whole time it's so incredibly simple, I am even saying the same thing, but apparently you're still having trouble. I asked to explain why he choose that game he said based on it doing things no other game did and it was unique/original. I mean look back it's not that far. I never said I didn;t lije his games his reason was invalid. I mean it's so simple I actually believe you lack the ability to actually understand what actually happened. It has nothing to do with quality of the game, if you actually explained why you though SoM you probably would have actually had a case there, his was complete BS based on lack of knowledge thinking the game did things no one els did although I did exaggerate that last sentence a little bit. Not completely un original, you get the point. Or you should by now. The only game were I truly said the list in the poll actually sucked wasChrono and that's because it's unoriginal to the point of hell and the combat system is broken. which I said IMO which you also forgot to read. So now you're going back before the point of the argument god job. I was not berating people opinions, you are completely clueless and have almost no reason to be on this topic if you can;t understand a simple thing and continue to twist it around. You seem to be the one to be trolling ignoring the point. It has nothing to do with hat games I think, I never said originality=suck which you seem to have come up with in your small narrow mind.. Once more,point was originality was the excuse, I pointed out it wasn't, never said the game couldn;t be one of the best but if your REASON is based on thinking it's original and it's not it is not a valid REASON, although he did mention a few points that were although it wasn;t very much. Since you are so unable to put together something so simple and have to twist it for your brain to understand I would suggest you just shut up all together because you have no clue what you are talking about, you can;t understand some extremely simple, you continue to troll and then call others a troll, and yet you're the one that can;t deciper something a 4 year old child can figue out. I would suggest trying again in a different thread. Build that intelligence up first.How about you say something useful new guy? Just because they happen to copy some games from the same exact series doesn't mean they are unoriginal. It means that they are sequels. Final Fantasy VI was made to catch the fans of the series. The games listed are some of the most acclaimed titles in the history of video games. If you don't like them, that's a whole different matter altogether. You haven't even said what makes Mario RPG and Earthbound bad titles. How about you elaborate on those?
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