Bioshock 2 question and spoiler.

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#1 Evil_Saluki
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Did anyone else think that Elenor might of made a better protagonist to play instead of the mechanical, grunting, lumbering brute of a big daddy you got to fill the size 16 shoes of? I guess the idea of playing the big daddy (Delta) and having only a purpose is your suppose to picture yourself behind the mask but no, I didn't get attached to the character at all, I felt like I just played the game to see how it all ends but I wasn't too bothered.

It frustrated me when I saw how cool Elenor is when she becomes the Big Sister, now she had the moves! That's the character we were suppose to play, she is the true center role not only in story but in character pride. Ok Delta did make me sniffle a little at the end of the good ending. I don't have the heart for the evil ending and I consider myself a pretty nasty person in real life but there are some levels of cruelty I just can't stand even if it's fictional.

Anyway, Elenor rocked, I wanted to play as Elenor not "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh!" *STOMP* *STOMP* *STOMP* "Uhhhhhhhhhhhh".

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#2 Balbaar
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I agree. Being acrobatic could've been fun when you were killing splicers. Let's hope the next game will feature you as a Big Sister or if not, a chance to play as a Big Sister.

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My biggest question with that scenario would be the story, exactly how would they have made it work? I understand the story in this case wasn't quite as good as the original bioshock but the single player mode is still supposed to be based on a story just as much as interesting game play ideas. Essentially I think it would be pretty fun to play as a big sister but it wouldn't really make that much sense in terms of story in the bioshock universe. Obviously things would have been changed but I think this worked a little better overall.

Also it may have taken away from big sisters as enemies. I don't know how you felt exactly playing through the game, but I have beaten it on normal and hard and just didn't find big daddies to be the opposing foes that they were the first time around. Maybe my experiences from the first game changed my opinion but fighting against big sisters as a big daddy was at least a situation in which you knew you weren't quite as powerful as they were kind of along the lines of big daddies in the first game.

Overall I think bioshock 2 was a good game but it didn't quite pull me in the same way that the original did in terms of the story. The multiplayer mode is okay I guess but in the long run it won't be able to take me away from the other games I play on xbox live such as MW2 or Halo.

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My biggest question with that scenario would be the story, exactly how would they have made it work? I understand the story in this case wasn't quite as good as the original bioshock but the single player mode is still supposed to be based on a story just as much as interesting game play ideas. Essentially I think it would be pretty fun to play as a big sister but it wouldn't really make that much sense in terms of story in the bioshock universe. Obviously things would have been changed but I think this worked a little better overall.

Also it may have taken away from big sisters as enemies. I don't know how you felt exactly playing through the game, but I have beaten it on normal and hard and just didn't find big daddies to be the opposing foes that they were the first time around. Maybe my experiences from the first game changed my opinion but fighting against big sisters as a big daddy was at least a situation in which you knew you weren't quite as powerful as they were kind of along the lines of big daddies in the first game.

Overall I think bioshock 2 was a good game but it didn't quite pull me in the same way that the original did in terms of the story. The multiplayer mode is okay I guess but in the long run it won't be able to take me away from the other games I play on xbox live such as MW2 or Halo.

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Eleanor had more story set up then Delta even had, and she wasn't on the same side as the Big Sisters, she still fought against them, so it could of worked quite easily with no compromise.

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Yeah Elanor was a lot more interesting than Delta, but I don't care either way because I was paying the most attention to the great environments and the fun gameplay.

I did get sick of Sophia Lamb's drama queen act and running off at the mouth constantly. That woman loved to hear herself talk.

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#6 Evil_Saluki
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Yeah Elanor was a lot more interesting than Delta, but I don't care either way because I was paying the most attention to the great environments and the fun gameplay.

I did get sick of Sophia Lamb's drama queen act and running off at the mouth constantly. That woman loved to hear herself talk.

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I never quite understood what she was aiming for, I sort of blanked her out about 2 thirds of the way through and was only wondering if she will splice herself up and turn into some kind of super-baddie at the end like Fontane did in the last game. Something to do with all of us becoming one mind. Pretty much this was done in Dues Ex 2 if you worked alongside JC Denton and it's a bit of a weak since it's obvious we as people don't want to be a hive mind for better or for worse.
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#7 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Yeah Elanor was a lot more interesting than Delta, but I don't care either way because I was paying the most attention to the great environments and the fun gameplay.

I did get sick of Sophia Lamb's drama queen act and running off at the mouth constantly. That woman loved to hear herself talk.

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I never quite understood what she was aiming for, I sort of blanked her out about 2 thirds of the way through and was only wondering if she will splice herself up and turn into some kind of super-baddie at the end like Fontane did in the last game. Something to do with all of us becoming one mind. Pretty much this was done in Dues Ex 2 if you worked alongside JC Denton and it's a bit of a weak since it's obvious we as people don't want to be a hive mind for better or for worse.

Yeah she was a total narcissist and psycho. I too thought she'd be the final boss but I'm glad it went the way it did because Fontane was one of the worst (weakest) final bosses I've ever fought.

I played it twice for both endings and the bad ending was pretty interesting like the good ending, just in stark contrast.

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#8 calvinsora
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I actually felt very much attached to Delta, far more than Jack in the first game.I could somehow feel how horrible it must have been to be stolen and thrust into a Big Daddy suit without any say in the matter. Playing as Eleanor doesn't really offer as much gameplay flexibility. Would you just play her as her mature self in a Big Sister suit? The story itself would've probably changed to accomodate to that, and it might just be that her backstory wouldn't be so interesting in that case. But Bioshock is more about feeling yourself in the character's shoes, while the character still retains some sort of personality.