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#1 Metamania
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I haven't seen anyone do an official Brutal Legend thread, so I thought I should give it a shot on here.

Talk anything you want or post anything you want on Brutal Legend, for the XB360 and PS3. I just saw the IGN review. Link is below.

Link to all reviews for Brutal Legend - http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/943672-brutal-legend/index.html

IGN - 9.0 -http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1033952p1.html

Videogamer - 9.0 -http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/brutal_legend/review.html

Eurogamer - 8/10 -http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/brutal-legend-review

Gamespot - 8.5 -http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/brutallegend/review.html?tag=topslot;thumb;2

Giantbomb - 3/5 Stars -http://www.giantbomb.com/brutal-legend/61-20700/reviews/

Gametrailers - 8.5 -http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-brutal-legend/57626

If any more reviews are posted, I'll post them here.

So...please discuss Brutal Legend. :)

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#2 lonewolf604
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wow higher score than i thought. it looked liked a crappy game but i guess i thought wrong
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#3 Metamania
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wow higher score than i thought. it looked liked a crappy game but i guess i thought wronglonewolf604
Try out the demo sometime. You may be surprised, as I was.
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i played through the demo myself and thought it was pretty fun...however i just can't justify paying another $70 on day one for a game that will easily stay on my shelf for a few months, all the while i play the other6-7 moreanticipated games coming out at the same timeframe...seems like an excellent bargain bin title though when itgets there eventually...

that said, the ign review was higher than i thought, so i may give this one a closer look...

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#5 SweatnqBullets
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This looks quite fun. Might have to get it and play it after I finish Uncharted 2
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#6 Metamania
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i played through the demo myself and thought it was pretty fun...however i just can't justify paying another $70 on day one for a game that will easily stay on my shelf for a few months, all the while i play the other6-7 moreanticipated games coming out at the same timeframe...seems like an excellent bargain bin title though when itgets there eventually...

that said, the ign review was higher than i thought, so i may give this one a closer look...

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Some games do have that feeling, but I don't mind for Brutal Legend, even if the game is going to be short. That said, perhaps renting is a better option for you?
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[QUOTE="Prodigy_basic"]

i played through the demo myself and thought it was pretty fun...however i just can't justify paying another $70 on day one for a game that will easily stay on my shelf for a few months, all the while i play the other6-7 moreanticipated games coming out at the same timeframe...seems like an excellent bargain bin title though when itgets there eventually...

that said, the ign review was higher than i thought, so i may give this one a closer look...

Metamania

Some games do have that feeling, but I don't mind for Brutal Legend, even if the game is going to be short. That said, perhaps renting is a better option for you?

nah, i don't rent games...i'm not the type to buy games on day one when i already have a backlog to get through, but i will support the developer by picking it up down the line at the reduced price if the timing's right...

i'm not hating on brutal legend...i hope everyone who buys it next week loves the game...it's just a personal thing with me...

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I'll be picking it up tomorrow with Uncharted 2 and Batman: AA. The fact that it has bands like Carcass and Enslaved on the soundtrack make it a must buy.
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#9 yokofox33
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Will get it closer to Christmas, but it is certainly a great score. The demo was very fun. I was surprised by it because I had no interest in the game until I played the demo. Glad I tried it out.

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#10 Metamania
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[QUOTE="Metamania"][QUOTE="Prodigy_basic"]

i played through the demo myself and thought it was pretty fun...however i just can't justify paying another $70 on day one for a game that will easily stay on my shelf for a few months, all the while i play the other6-7 moreanticipated games coming out at the same timeframe...seems like an excellent bargain bin title though when itgets there eventually...

that said, the ign review was higher than i thought, so i may give this one a closer look...

Prodigy_basic

Some games do have that feeling, but I don't mind for Brutal Legend, even if the game is going to be short. That said, perhaps renting is a better option for you?

nah, i don't rent games...i'm not the type to buy games on day one when i already have a backlog to get through, but i will support the developer by picking it up down the line at the reduced price if the timing's right...

i'm not hating on brutal legend...i hope everyone who buys it next week loves the game...it's just a personal thing with me...

All good. :)
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#11 Metamania
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I'll be picking it up tomorrow with Uncharted 2 and Batman: AA. The fact that it has bands like Carcass and Enslaved on the soundtrack make it a must buy.Canvas_Of_Flesh
For heavy-metal fanatics, like myself, the soundtrack is definitely a good one. I would have liked to see Metallica on it, as they are my favorite band, but I guess they decided to not put a song on there. Some other bands are missing too, but that's ok. There's still a good list of metal tracks on the game, so I'm good!
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As a metalhead I feel that it's my duty to buy this game.
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#13 CarnageHeart
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I didn't fall in love with the demo (which admittedly ddn't contain the RTS elements of the full game) but I honestly hope this game does well. The world needs more quality original games, and BL doing well will convince publishers to take more chances.

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Surprisingly the only reason I'm still iffy about picking Brutal Legend up is Jack Black. Yes he can be a funny man, but sometimes he can just become obnoxious. And 7+ hours (honestly don't know how long the game is sorry lol) might just make me turn the sound off eventually.

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#15 Metamania
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Surprisingly the only reason I'm still iffy about picking Brutal Legend up is Jack Black. Yes he can be a funny man, but sometimes he can just become obnoxious. And 7+ hours (honestly don't know how long the game is sorry lol) might just make me turn the sound off eventually.

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As far as I can tell, his performance as Eddie Riggs is pretty much dead-on. Yeah, in some movies, he can be obnoxious, but that's just the way he is, IMO.
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I really dig the style of the game. It doesn't push the polys to the limit like an Uncharted 2, but it still looks great. INonetheless 'll be waiting for the review, just in case there are some major hiccups.
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Amazing game. Must buy.

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#18 Metamania
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Amazing game. Must buy.

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Hopefully, the game should arrive today or tomorrow. I look forward to playing it either way.
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#19 Im_single
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Eurogamer gave it an 8.0
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#20 Son_of_Magnus
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I will NOT be buying this garbage

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As a huge metal fan since the early days of the genre I will get this game at some point, but I probably wont get around to playing it into earlier next year.
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#22 190586385885857957282413308806
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For those of you on the fence. If you're apart of the Best Buy Gamer's Zone, you get a $10 gift card for purchasing the game there...I'll more than likely pick it up tomorrow with U2 and Risen for PC.
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I will NOT be buying this garbage

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I'm curious, what about this game makes it 'garbage' to you?
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Woah excellent review for the game. I'm a huge fan of the type of music in the game and the premise of the game itself plus I think Jack Black fits the role perfectly. I loved the demo so this game is a buy for me. Really looking forward to getting it.

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#25 Metamania
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I will NOT be buying this garbage

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What makes the game "garbage" to you? I'm curious.
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#26 Metamania
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Game should be arriving today, I'm told, so I'll head out to the mall later today and pick it up.

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This game will probably be a tough one to find in a few months. Especially since it's a Tim Schafer game.
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#28 Metamania
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This game will probably be a tough one to find in a few months. Especially since it's a Tim Schafer game.havokmaster
Which is why it may be important to buy the game now while you still can. People made that same mistake when it came to classics like Final Fantasy Tactics or Castlevania: SOTN on the Playstation One and now we see them hunting it down for a good price on EBay.
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[QUOTE="havokmaster"]This game will probably be a tough one to find in a few months. Especially since it's a Tim Schafer game.Metamania
Which is why it may be important to buy the game now while you still can. People made that same mistake when it came to classics like Final Fantasy Tactics or Castlevania: SOTN on the Playstation One and now we see them hunting it down for a good price on EBay.

Or just buying the digital downloadable versions of those games that are available now. ;)
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#30 Metamania
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[QUOTE="Metamania"][QUOTE="havokmaster"]This game will probably be a tough one to find in a few months. Especially since it's a Tim Schafer game.Skylock00
Which is why it may be important to buy the game now while you still can. People made that same mistake when it came to classics like Final Fantasy Tactics or Castlevania: SOTN on the Playstation One and now we see them hunting it down for a good price on EBay.

Or just buying the digital downloadable versions of those games that are available now. ;)

Indeed! That would be much quicker! :D Of course, some people may not want to do that for the sake of collecting or having it in their own hands and playing it off the system. I guess it all ends up being a matter of choice. :)
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For those of you on the fence. If you're apart of the Best Buy Gamer's Zone, you get a $10 gift card for purchasing the game there...I'll more than likely pick it up tomorrow with U2 and Risen for PC.smerlus
Off topic (sorry MM) but I cannot find Risen anywhere. For either platform. I was hunting for it the other day and couldn't find it. I was desperate for a new RPG to play and ended up getting Sacred 2 instead. That was a mistake. On topic: Please if you get Brutal Legend post your honest impressions I am still kinda on the fence here and would like to know what you guys think.
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Brutal Legend will become a classic of this generation, despite its flaws.
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[QUOTE="smerlus"]For those of you on the fence. If you're apart of the Best Buy Gamer's Zone, you get a $10 gift card for purchasing the game there...I'll more than likely pick it up tomorrow with U2 and Risen for PC.GodModeEnabled
Off topic (sorry MM) but I cannot find Risen anywhere. For either platform. I was hunting for it the other day and couldn't find it. I was desperate for a new RPG to play and ended up getting Sacred 2 instead. That was a mistake. On topic: Please if you get Brutal Legend post your honest impressions I am still kinda on the fence here and would like to know what you guys think.

Can't find Risen either...guess Amazon.com is the spot to get it.
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Hmm, Ryan didn't like it so much.

http://www.giantbomb.com/brutal-legend/61-20700/reviews/

What's more interesting is this sentence, which is what concerns me far more than the score (I can deal with awkward console RTS controls) - In a way, the single-player game--which, if you stick strictly to the story missions, can be knocked out in around four hours--almost feels like a lengthy tutorial for the multiplayer, which breaks the RTS element out onto its own.

Four hours? Really? Other reviews have mentioned the lackluster and repetitive side missions, so it sounds like there's no a lot of game there after all these years. Can anyone confirm that? I was going to nab a copy this weekend but it sounds like it would be a better rental, as much as I like Double Fine's stuff.

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#35 martialbullet
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Gametrailers gives it an 8.5 as well.

They had me at lazer shooting panthers.... and Dethklok!

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#36 jubino
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I'm loving it. I've been playing for hours now and it's still got that new game feel, although I wouldn't recommend doing any more sidequests than you have to. Like every review has stated, it does get pretty repetitive. Not saying that it'll suck the fun out of the game, but it is kind of a drag in what's overall a really awesome game.

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#37 Metamania
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[QUOTE="smerlus"]For those of you on the fence. If you're apart of the Best Buy Gamer's Zone, you get a $10 gift card for purchasing the game there...I'll more than likely pick it up tomorrow with U2 and Risen for PC.GodModeEnabled
Off topic (sorry MM) but I cannot find Risen anywhere. For either platform. I was hunting for it the other day and couldn't find it. I was desperate for a new RPG to play and ended up getting Sacred 2 instead. That was a mistake. On topic: Please if you get Brutal Legend post your honest impressions I am still kinda on the fence here and would like to know what you guys think.

No worries. If Risen is part of the Tim Schafer games, then I don't see it as being off topic, since BL was also created by Tim Schafer as well. So you're good!

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#38 Metamania
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Before I give out my honest impressions, just want to say kudos to DJ_Lae and martialbullet for letting me know about the new reviews. Please keep them coming!

So I played the game last night and I have a feeling it's gonna be a nice ride. In a way, it's a mix of action, driving, and even real-time strategy. I wasn't sure how the real-time strategy comes into play, but I see how it works now. You gather a group of headbangers by playing a battle cry solo off your guitar, to raise their spirits and join your revolution, so to speak. Then you have to give them commands to either stand still, follow you, or fight. For example, in the Mines, where I'm at right now, you have to spread out your army and have them take out bad guys in certain spots of the area while still maintaining control of Eddie Riggs. I'm not exactly good at strategy, but it's easy enough to tell your army what to do, although you have to go near them. You can't tell them what to do when you are far away (although I think there's a certain move you earn, later on, that allows you to do that).

It's a huge world to explore in and it's definitely a heavy-metal world. I drove around the overworld map, straying off the beaten path, and I've found little tunnels that housed stage lights, amps, drum kits, etc. Even the enemies themselves represent goths, emos, etc. There's something here for every metal fan alike. Killing some of the enemies is pretty cool. Eddie's main weapon is an axe and a guitar. Axe is pretty self-explanatory - you just use it to cut up monsters and watch blood fly around as heads and body parts get chopped off. But with your guitar, you pull off solos to make things happen, like recruiting your army of headbangers or raising certain locales in order to gain something new, like the car that Eddie Riggs makes at the beginning. You can also use your guitar to shock your enemies, leaving them temporarily paralyzed for you to hit a quick combo with.

Oh and did I tell you about the soundtrack? Completely bada**! A lot of great metal tracks from bands like Def Leppard, Angel Witch, Bungie, etc. If you don't know what song is currently playing, just pause the game and it will tell you. It's very diverse and it plays randomly, so it's not like you'll hear the same track 50 times in a row. You'll hear that track every now and then, but not always. Good times!

This is the best that I can do as far as an honest impression goes, as far as first blush is concerned. I'll make sure to write a full review and have it posted here for you to see, if interested. ;)

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[QUOTE="Son_of_Magnus"]

I will NOT be buying this garbage

Metamania

What makes the game "garbage" to you? I'm curious.

The plot looks terrible the gameplay and animation are terrible Jack Black is terrible the soundtrack is cliché and predictable(I enjoy originality) it just looks like a boring dull game that is not worth a dime.

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The plot looks terrible the gameplay and animation are terrible Jack Black is terrible the soundtrack is cliché and predictable(I enjoy originality) it just looks like a boring dull game that is not worth a dime.

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What a well thought out, in depth argument you propose here, especially given that it's a conclusion that you derived before even touching the game outside of, at most, the demo. In regards to the music and audio, there's definitely more to it than you're willing to admit, but it's okay to have an opinion that's even more uninteresting than what you claim Brutal Legend to be.
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#41 Metamania
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[QUOTE="Son_of_Magnus"]

The plot looks terrible the gameplay and animation are terrible Jack Black is terrible the soundtrack is cliché and predictable(I enjoy originality) it just looks like a boring dull game that is not worth a dime.

Skylock00
What a well thought out, in depth argument you propose here, especially given that it's a conclusion that you derived before even touching the game outside of, at most, the demo. In regards to the music and audio, there's definitely more to it than you're willing to admit, but it's okay to have an opinion that's even more uninteresting than what you claim Brutal Legend to be.

I agree with Skylock. People need to play the game first before giving out judgements such as the one you gave Son_of_Magnus. I never judge games fully until I know enough about it or have beaten it.
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Hmm, Ryan didn't like it so much.

http://www.giantbomb.com/brutal-legend/61-20700/reviews/

What's more interesting is this sentence, which is what concerns me far more than the score (I can deal with awkward console RTS controls) - In a way, the single-player game--which, if you stick strictly to the story missions, can be knocked out in around four hours--almost feels like a lengthy tutorial for the multiplayer, which breaks the RTS element out onto its own.

Four hours? Really? Other reviews have mentioned the lackluster and repetitive side missions, so it sounds like there's no a lot of game there after all these years. Can anyone confirm that? I was going to nab a copy this weekend but it sounds like it would be a better rental, as much as I like Double Fine's stuff.

DJ_Lae

I wonder if there will eventually be a second demo which lets people play the multiplayer? I wasn't impressed by the single player demo, but if the focus of the game is multiplayer and the multiplayer is good...

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#43 Metamania
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]

Hmm, Ryan didn't like it so much.

http://www.giantbomb.com/brutal-legend/61-20700/reviews/

What's more interesting is this sentence, which is what concerns me far more than the score (I can deal with awkward console RTS controls) - In a way, the single-player game--which, if you stick strictly to the story missions, can be knocked out in around four hours--almost feels like a lengthy tutorial for the multiplayer, which breaks the RTS element out onto its own.

Four hours? Really? Other reviews have mentioned the lackluster and repetitive side missions, so it sounds like there's no a lot of game there after all these years. Can anyone confirm that? I was going to nab a copy this weekend but it sounds like it would be a better rental, as much as I like Double Fine's stuff.

CarnageHeart

I wonder if there will eventually be a second demo which lets people play the multiplayer? I wasn't impressed by the single player demo, but if the focus of the game is multiplayer and the multiplayer is good...

Multiplayer plays out like an RTS game. You build your army through the help of fans, then destroy the army and their stage. It's simple to do after gaining an understanding of it, so I guess RTS fans will dig the concept.
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#44 TJamesA
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6628dd2ffd/brutal-journey-jack-black-finds-his-inner-eddie-riggs

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#45 Metamania
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6628dd2ffd/brutal-journey-jack-black-finds-his-inner-eddie-riggs

TJamesA
What....the....hell? :lol:
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#46 Grammaton-Cleric
Member since 2002 • 7515 Posts

[QUOTE="Metamania"][QUOTE="Son_of_Magnus"]

I will NOT be buying this garbage

Son_of_Magnus

What makes the game "garbage" to you? I'm curious.

The plot looks terrible the gameplay and animation are terrible Jack Black is terrible the soundtrack is cliché and predictable(I enjoy originality) it just looks like a boring dull game that is not worth a dime.

You claim to enjoy originality yet you slander a game you haven't played that even its detractors admit has a great story and an eclectic mix of mechanics.

You also have a HL2 icon for your tag which is ironic considering the plot of HL2 is anything but original, regardless of how well executed the actual game is.

Care to reconcile some of your logic to better illuminate your arguments? Because you really seem to be trolling here.

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#47 Metamania
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More reviews have been posted. I have included the gamerankings.page link so that it can be easier for anyone to access them, should they be interested in Brutal Legend.

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#48 GodModeEnabled
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My brother picked up the game so now I can borrow it and play it for free yay! Impressions to follow after a day or two.
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#49 CarnageHeart
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I found an interesting Tim Schaefer post via Kotaku. He states that Brutal Legend isn't an RTS and that trying to play it as one is a mistake.

Reading the GAF BL thread I got the impression part of BL's problem is it doesn't explain itself very clearly, a perception reinforced by this letter (which presumably was necessitated by confused players).

http://kotaku.com/5382233/tim-schafer-explains-how-to-play-brutal-legend

In an open letter on the Double Fine community site Brutal Legend developer and Double Fine head honcho Tim Schafer explains how best to play Brutal Legend and reminds everyone that the game isn't a real-time strategy game.

It is a historical fact that it began its life as an RTS game, inspired by Herzog Zwei. But then as we worked on it we simplified it, and simplified it, and focused it more and more on the player avatar and the combat. Every time we focused the gameplay on the action, it became more fun. The end result is something much more action-oriented, and I think, totally unique. If you try to play the stage battles in Brütal Legend as an RTS game then you will lose. First you will get mad, then you will scream, and then you will lose. But if you are open to a new kind of action experience, you will have a blast.

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#50 Srbanator
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[QUOTE="Son_of_Magnus"]

The plot looks terrible the gameplay and animation are terrible Jack Black is terrible the soundtrack is cliché and predictable(I enjoy originality) it just looks like a boring dull game that is not worth a dime.

Skylock00
What a well thought out, in depth argument you propose here, especially given that it's a conclusion that you derived before even touching the game outside of, at most, the demo. In regards to the music and audio, there's definitely more to it than you're willing to admit, but it's okay to have an opinion that's even more uninteresting than what you claim Brutal Legend to be.

Thank you for that : )