Can G4 survive?

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#1 GalvatronType_R
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FACTS:

-G4 is the lowest watched and rated basic cable show in the U.S.

-last year, when G4 was up for renewal on DIRECTV, it was dropped by the satellite provider altogether (it's rumored that Comcast was so desperate that it offered DIRECTV the same exact buy rate that it had during the previous deal and DIRECTV laughed and still canceled); there is speculation that other premium TV service providers are also considering dropping G4 as soon as the contract expires

-G4 has only two original programming shows, AOTS and X-Play, both of which have the production values of your average run of the mill cable access show

-G4 is full of unlikeable, smartest guy in the room, self satisfied, laugh at their own jokes on screen 'talent' (especially that faux hawked, snarky, smug doosh handbag Kevin Pereira; he's the Summer's Eve of basic cable); the only people with any semblance of knowledge and talent worth keeping around are Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb

-the parent company of G4, Comcast, has been losing money and subscribers for years; it has also been desperately shopping the money bleeding G4 to any suckers, I mean, interested parties for months with no success so far

CONCLUSION:

G4 will fold in the next 3-5 years. Take it to the bank.

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#2 Bigboi500
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It might do better if they got rid of Morgan Webb.

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#3 LoG-Sacrament
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i dont wish for people to lose their jobs, but i cant say that id mourn the loss of xplay (or aots or any of their other programming for that matter). theres no depth or speed of coverage or any semblance of good discussion. they do tons of basic coverage for games everybody knows about (does anybody really need that much halo and CoD coverage?) but even for those select few insubstantial games that they cover a lot, they dont actually say anything interesting about them.

i know the tv show is supposed to be for a more casual audience, but it seems like even they could get the same information from publishers' mass marketing. xplay might on rare occasion give a little tv time to a small game, but it will be quickly shoved away for bigger (often inferior) games. ive gotten to the point where i actively avoid the show. giving it ratings feels like im supporting something dirty.

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#4 MLBknights58
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G4 was awesome when they had shows like CinemaTech, Electric Playground, Arena, G4 Icons, and a lot of their original shows.

Now they only have AoTS and X-Play, which I love to watch and are entertaining, but unfortunately the majority of their broadcast is stupid crap like Cheaters and Cops and Campus PD, which have no place on a network for games and such.

Will crap like that on their network, who would be bothered to watch long enough to see the fun stuff? If they go under it's their own damn fault.

Also, Code Monkey's was funny.

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#5 meetroid8
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It's worth it just for Sasuke/Ninja Warrior. But, with ratings that pathetically low I think it's future is obvious.
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#6 ReviewerDrake
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G4 used to be good now I only watch it for Ninja Warrior.

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#7 Legendaryscmt
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At its current rate, it won't. However, just fire the CEO that completely destroyed it in the first place, make more shows about games, and return x-Play back to its comic roots and all would be good.

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#8 Ilovegames1992
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Never seen the show.

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#9 greenskittles
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-G4 is full of unlikeable, smartest guy in the room, self satisfied, laugh at their own jokes on screen 'talent' (especially that faux hawked, snarky, smug doosh handbag Kevin Pereira; he's the Summer's Eve of basic cable);

GalvatronType_R

Pretty sure that's what he's going for ...

Anywho, whilst I rarely watch XPlay because of the overkill on Halo and CoD I do actually enjoy AOTS. Can someone explain to me why it is that, that show gets so much hate? Sure a couple of skits are dumb but they are no more dumb than a majority of skits on late night talk shows. They review hardware, they have a segment (the loop) dedicated to in depth discussion and regularly interview interesting celebrities on shows guys like many of us would watch. Unless you want a Kardashian on Letterman or something than I don't know what the issue is with AOTS.

So no I would not want to see them go.

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#10 ReviewerDrake
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^ It's actually a channel that is supposed to be dedicated to gaming but they only give 1 or 2 shows about gaming the rest of their line up consist of cheaters and cops.

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#11 greenskittles
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^ It's actually a channel that is supposed to be dedicated to gaming but they only give 1 or 2 shows about gaming the rest of their line up consist of cheaters and cops.

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Maybe. In Australia we get it both shows on Fuel TV so I'm not sure about the intricacies of G4 but I do enjoy watching AOTS which is why I don't want it to go. We still see the in show adverts for the other G4 shows but thats just the evolution of the channel. Maybe it wasn't rating even worse when it was dedicated to gaming.

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#12 1PMrFister
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I haven't seen G4 since DirecTV dropped them, and their gaming journalistic integrity is a joke anyway, so I wouldn't really care if they lived or died.
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#14 HadronVulture
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G4 was good once but with how it is now I would not mind seeing it go away.
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#15 yagr_zero
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The moment G4 decided it was a great idea to run 12 hours of Cops each day was the moment I stopped watching. I mean come on. It's like they're not trying.
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#16 GalvatronType_R
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Will miss their E3 coverage which was always fantastic.dvader654

Yes, I also think their E3 coverage is 'fantastic'; I especially loved in 2007 when G4 promised to show the preconferences commercial free but they ended up cutting to commercials in the middle of the Halo 3 and Mass Effect 2 trailers (with Adam Sessler heard clearly in the background pleading with the empty suits not to cut away).

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#17 mikeyMKII
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I used to watch it alot, when Sessler, Webb and that chick Kristin Holt were on. Then the Cheaters reruns and other crud shows took up the videogame shows timeslots, and DirecTV cancelled them.

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#18 CarnageHeart
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The fact that its no longer a channel devoted to videogames (the only show devoted to games is X-Play, which I watch whenever they air new episodes) gives me little reason to care about the death of the channel.

They gave it their best, but clearly a channel devoted to videogames just isn't feasible.

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#19 Invisible_Kid2
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I don't have Dish any more. I just watch everything on the internet. I miss when it was Tech Tv/G4TechTV though. Bring back Electric Playground, Judgement Day, The Screen Savers, Call for Help, Robot Wars, and Unscrewed with Martin Sargent and all of the old cast members. Nostalgia lol. Anyone else remember the Cat nip pics and how, either Sessler or Sargent, did their own version of them?
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#20 Jackc8
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-G4 is full of unlikeable, smartest guy in the room, self satisfied, laugh at their own jokes on screen 'talent' (especially that faux hawked, snarky, smug doosh handbag Kevin Pereira; he's the Summer's Eve of basic cable); the only people with any semblance of knowledge and talent worth keeping around are Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb

GalvatronType_R

Totally agree. I remember back in the Tech TV days when there's be some very informative and entertaining show like "Call For Help" and afterwards there's be some douchebag show - I actually found the advertising for those shows repulsive.

Oh well, I really haven't watched G4 in a long time. Seems like nothing but commercials. X-Play returns from a commercial break just so some guy can tell me to stay tuned, then they run more commercials.

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#22 Canvas_Of_Flesh
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They actually have a show dedicated to video games? Wow. Shows what I miss out on not having cable or satellite.
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#23 Bigbadbozman
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G4 is terrible. The only good shoe is X-play. AOTS is terrible, they girl and Kevin guy have no chemistry, they fake laugh at everything. The girl that left had perfect chemistry with Kevin, it seemed more real, not scripted. They should do a show everyday based around gaming news and stuff, sort of like a sportscenter and keep airing it through the night and the morning. Get a better cast for AOTS, bring back that cheat show and then you have 4 good gaming/electronic shows instead of 1 and a half. They also need a website upgrade. Make it more brighter and welcoming.
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#24 brucecambell
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I dont even watch X play anymore. it also seem like half the time that i DVR it, it records a repeat episode. How many new show do they put out because i record it at the same time every weekday yet half of them seem to be repeats

Anyways doesnt anybody watch Reviews On The Run? Its the only show i actually care about on G4. Victor Lucas is a great reviewer. The only problem is Scott Jones seems to hate any game that is released, with a few rare exceptions.

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#25 killerband55
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It might do better if they got rid of Morgan Webb.

Bigboi500

WUT?, why in the world would you say something like that?

if anything get rid of Blair Herter, Candice Bailey, bring back Alison Haislip and make her permanent host of AOTS

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#26 killerband55
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And since then they have had all conferences totally commercial free.dvader654

thats my favorite part about G4's coverage of E3, sitting on my 50 inch flat screen tv watching the whole conference was so much fun

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#27 juradai
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I have a special place in my heart when G4 TV was TechTV. I even liked when G4TV became G4TV and they showed some really unique shows. CinemaTech was one of my favorites. Then, came all the Cops episodes and in flux of Spike TV-type content when the format of the station was geared towards the same demographic. I suppose I can understand that they wanted to increase the scale of their reach but then it came across as G4 not knowing what it really wanted to be.

I'm more disappointed that it went down hill or, more accurately, was just losing interest. Ninja Warrior was a step in the right direction but aside from that I didn't see any new programming worth watching. I checked out shortly after realizing that and would only watch Ninja Warrior from time to time. With TV looking to go more internet-based anyway I suppose traditional special interests TV would inevitable be the first to go.

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#28 AcidSoldner
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G4 was awesome when they had shows like CinemaTech, Electric Playground, Arena, G4 Icons MLBknights58

Those shows were all awesome. I remember watching CinemaTech as often as I could because at the time I lived out in the country and only 56k dial-up was available to us so CinemaTech was the only way I could watch trailers and gameplay videos.

I think the channel was at it's peak right after the TechTV/G4 merger. Such a good line up of shows back then.

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#29 Dracula68
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It's a TV show?:? I thought you were referring to the web site...lol

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#30 ReviewerDrake
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^ It's actually not a show but a channel that is supposed to be for gaming but now only plays cops and cheaters all day.

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#31 shufu7-11
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AOTS was infinitely greater when it was The Screen Savers, as was X-Play when it was a weekly comedic show and not a nightly news channel. TechTv was my favorite channel back in the day, and it started going downhill the second they merged with G4. Truly sad indeed.
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#32 Lostboy1224
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Can't say I will miss them.
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#33 ZenesisX
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I stopped watching that channel completely after the cops and cheaters started to show up lol. A channel for gamers. that sounded awesome on paper. It use to be a true statement too years ago. Now it is just a dying animal crawling on the floor gasping for its last breathe and also suffering from diarrhea for some reason:?

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#34 topgunmv
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At its current rate, it won't. However, just fire the CEO that completely destroyed it in the first place

Legendaryscmt

Seriously.

Whatever severance package he has can't possibly be more than all the money g4 is bleeding in its current state.

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#35 topgunmv
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The fact that its no longer a channel devoted to videogames (the only show devoted to games is X-Play, which I watch whenever they air new episodes) gives me little reason to care about the death of the channel.

They gave it their best, but clearly a channel devoted to videogames just isn't feasible.

CarnageHeart

Wasn't it a lot more profitable when it was in fact a show devoted to videogames?

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#36 Video_Game_Czar
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How the network is still going is beyond me. The truly great shows of ZDTV/TechTV are gone [Screen Savers, Call for Help and Silicon Spin] The networks only video game show Gamespot TV/Extended Play was a joke but at least a watchable one. X-Play makes my brain bleed and this sexist crap that is Attack of the show...Like soft-core porn for guys in lock-up because it sure as hell isn't for anyone that cares about tech. To see an almost 40 year old man [Sessler] turn from gamer to total unlikeable and utter ass...Yeah, I say kill it, Kill it with fire!
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#37 Invisible_Kid2
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What if we did a mass Twitter/Email/Facebook message spam? Bring GAMES back to G4, We Want Tech, or just post shows that you want back on G4.
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#38 Cwagmire21
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I rarely watch TV and if I want to get my gaming news, reviews, etc., I use the Internet. Not saying I a representative of all gamers, but when you see gaming websites and forums as popular as they are, I can't be that far off.

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#39 Dracula68
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^ It's actually not a show but a channel that is supposed to be for gaming but now only plays cops and cheaters all day.

ReviewerDrake
Ah I see. Kinda like when MTV died to me...1989 or thereabouts and added all those crapality shows.
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#40 Beagle050
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No more Ninja Warrior!?

Oh well, that was the only program on that station worth watching.

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#41 chilly-chill
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What? There is no love for Scott Jones and Victor Lucas?? Reviews on the run is the only show worth watching on G4...Xplay is a joke with the most unlikeable people hosting it (Blair, Morgan "man jaw" Webb etc) the Xplay hosts are all over sarcastic, laugh at their stupid scripted jokes.
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#42 zombehhhhh
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Yeah I've never been a big fan of G4, but I did like attack of the show when Olivia Munn was on it, she's hot.

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#43 edinsftw
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The question is...does anyone want it to survive?

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#44 Another48hours
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The moment G4 decided it was a great idea to run 12 hours of Cops each day was the moment I stopped watching. I mean come on. It's like they're not trying.Yagr_Zero
See enough Cops occupying the FOX network, now a whole channel of reruns? Where are the games?
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#45 killerband55
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Yeah I've never been a big fan of G4, but I did like attack of the show when Olivia Munn was on it, she's hot.

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Sarah Lane (before Olivia) was hotter

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#46 drummerboy91
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I got to take a picture with Adam Sessler when I met him at the Hard Rock Hotel in San Diego. Nice guy :]
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#47 GalvatronType_R
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Yeah I've never been a big fan of G4, but I did like attack of the show when Olivia Munn was on it, she's hot.

zombehhhhh

Munn's attractiveness is debatable (I've seen much better) but what's undeniable is that she is dumb as a box of rocks. Also, if she's ever picked up a controller in her life, then I'm the tooth fairy. I especially liked how she was doing a preview of Gears 2 and described its "first person perspective."

Also, she's a female Kevin Pereira: laughs at her own jokes, self impressed, thinks she's funnier than she is, Summer's Eve doosh handbag.

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#48 dercoo
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You know the thing about being the lowest ratingbasic cable channel,

your still higher rating than most cable channels

G4 doing fine(finanically).

Hopefully the marvel anime a sign they will bring back an anime block along with more origional shows.

I miss code monkeys

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#49 ReviewerDrake
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God how I hate Olivia Munn she is such a wannabe Gamer she doesn't know crap about games or comics yet she attends Comic con and acts like she knows it all. All she is to G4 is eye candy and she ain't even that hot.

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#50 Ilovegames1992
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Wow, the whole point of having girls on a gamer show is because lonely nerds love cute "nerdy" girls. They're eye candy.

Getting mad because they probably aren't big gamers is just weird :lol: