Consoles are not cheaper than PC's.....

I'm using UK prices but i'm sure it's the same everywhere....


Game prices,

PC - £20 - 30

Console £40-50

So in the long term you save money by purchasing PC games, also most PC gamers just download and pirate them so you don't even have to pay anymore while doing that on a console risks you being banned or w/e and costs more money.

For the same price as a PS3 you can buy a dual core system with a 8600GT, pre built system, you'd save more money upgrading yourself. This PC will run Crysis on medium and do fine on every game out there and i know because my friend plays lots of online games with me and he owns one. For just £300 extra than the price of a PS3 you can buy a nice gaming rig that uses a 8800GTX that'll run Crysis on very high and seeing as your saving money on the price of games.... why not splash out abit more.

People will tell you that you'll need to upgrade every month, however i've recently only just upgraded for the first time since 2003, when i bought a 9800pro 256mb which has lasted me 4 years and i'm still using that PC which can still run games of today, altho not like it used to. It maxes out source engine games and Doom 3 and World of Warcraft and all that stuff, and will run Crysis on Low settings.... not like it's dead yet. So you'll buy your PC now and unless your a graphics whore and like to have every setting to the max and play at crazy res on like 5000 by 3000 or something thwn you'll be fine 3 years. I mean before Microsoft put the extra coverage on the 360 my mates had to pay for repair or buy a new 360 anyways, so that cost them more money.

Also the PC will give you useful life skills that can then me applied to getting a jiob, so in a way it's giving you the money back with the new job you just got because you knew how to use a PC properly. Not only that but you'll be able to learn things like mod making for games and use that to break into the games industry, if you think that's farfetched then think Counter Strike or BF desert combat mod etc etc.

Then you can do all the extra stuff as you wish like talk to friends or start a website or make a myspace. You can download lots of illegal stuff for free if you wish because everyone does it, lets be honest when was the last time you downloaded a mp3? You can watch porn and do anything without the restrictions of Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft.



So with all these reasons, that's why i say that PC gaming is actually cheaper than Consoles.

yes they are... you can rent games for $5 or buy used if you had to.... you dont have that option with PC games...sooooo

if you're worried about money... console games are cheaper than PC games

yes they are... you can rent games for $5 or buy used if you had to.... you dont have that option with PC games...sooooo

if you're worried about money... console games are cheaper than PC games

smerlus

You got sometimes the option to rent PC games,but the only reason you could call PC gaming cheaper is the fact that you could get illigal copies from the internet.

Hmmm I have to say I sort of prefer to play console games though. I have a high-end PC (Quad Core, 8800GTX, 4GB RAM, etc. etc.) and a PS3 and I play both but the thing I like about PS3 is being able to just sit back on the couch nice and relaxed whilst still playing great games and can also enjoy it with my friends in the same room playing the same game. The PC I feel more secluded and anti-social as I get so into the game.

Anyway back to the point, whilst the games are cheaper, I'm not that fussed about paying a little extra for the console game because of the above point I made, and also because I'm concious about my money so don't just go spending it willy nilly. Also I don't like buying lots of games because it means I have to spend a lot of time on them. I like games but I dont want to spend all my time on it, prefer to go out with my friends.

Hmmm I have to say I sort of prefer to play console games though. I have a high-end PC (Quad Core, 8800GTX, 4GB RAM, etc. etc.) and a PS3 and I play both but the thing I like about PS3 is being able to just sit back on the couch nice and relaxed whilst still playing great games and can also enjoy it with my friends in the same room playing the same game. The PC I feel more secluded and anti-social as I get so into the game.

Anyway back to the point, whilst the games are cheaper, I'm not that fussed about paying a little extra for the console game because of the above point I made, and also because I'm concious about my money so don't just go spending it willy nilly. Also I don't like buying lots of games because it means I have to spend a lot of time on them. I like games but I dont want to spend all my time on it, prefer to go out with my friends.

dazman31

see i cant stand gaming on my tv sitting on a couch, squinting at my tv trying to figure out what im doing, i have exactly the same setup as you, high end rig and ps3, and i feel hella more confortable playing on the PC.

about the cost of things, you end buying a crapload of accessories for consoles which should have come with it in the first place, and you're buying stuff like that flimsy piece of plastic wireless receiver for the xbox360, costing 120$ for example.

theres also always the argument of having to own an HDTV to get a proper console experience, so you end up paying (300~600$)+(900~2000$).

of course people will say "but i can do other stuff on my tv like...watch tv, so it doesnt count"

well I can do ALOT of stuff on my high end 1600$ computer as well, and my 500$ 22" pc monitor is better than my 42" 1080p aquos.

Hmmm I have to say I sort of prefer to play console games though. I have a high-end PC (Quad Core, 8800GTX, 4GB RAM, etc. etc.) and a PS3 and I play both but the thing I like about PS3 is being able to just sit back on the couch nice and relaxed whilst still playing great games and can also enjoy it with my friends in the same room playing the same game. The PC I feel more secluded and anti-social as I get so into the game. dazman31

Yeah, I agree and disagree. Consoles are nice cause you can play with a bunch of friends and lounge on the couch. But as you said, PC games are much more engauging and immersive - you "get into the game" more. So when my buddies aren't around, it's nice to sit back in my uber-comfy computer chair and lose myself in Crysis or something.

On topic, though. I'd consider myself a pretty "hardcore" gamer, so I don't mind paying a bit more for PC hardware. PC games are more intricate and detailed, they generally have far better graphics, and you have the ability to patch/upgrade and mod them. The PC gaming community is usually alot more intelligent/mature when compared to, for example, the Xbox Live community.

Oh, and to whomever said you can buy used console games cheap - you can buy new PC games just as cheap. A lot of times you can even share your purchased PC games with your friends and play together, which isn't possible with console games. Console games are nice, though, cause they always work. But the only reason they always work is because the console hardware is static, which isn't necessarily a good thing to electronics enthusiasts like me. I'd like to see a console with upgradeable hardware. That'd be cool.

The PC gaming community is usually alot more intelligent/mature when compared to, for example, the Xbox Live community.SentientGames

that is a blatant mistruth. absolutely, 1000% false. go on any online pc game and you will find the same idiots exploiting, acting like 5 year olds, cursing, whatever. some of the most immature gamers i have encountered were on world of warcraft and unreal.

you want to know the reality of it? console gaming and pc gaming cost about the same. you can pointout the extremes on both fronts but in general, to have an adequate experience with either, you will spend in the same ballpark.console gamers and pc gamers are also a pretty similar group of people as far as maturity or anything else. you have idiots, crybabies, exploiters, smart people, friendly people, and everything else on both.

I prefer Consoles. Its not because its "cheaper", although u say it costs about the same, thats not why I care.

Im not that good at overclocking, building own pcs and so on. I just really like the simplicity my 360 and ps3 give me.

When I come home at the end of the day and want to play a new game I dont have to worry about good graphic-cards, running it at max, having framerate* problems. I just insert the disc, hang back on my couch, sometimes alone, sometimes with friends, and just play the game. Maybe il try making a good game-pc somewhere in a year, or even next generation of consoles. But right now im really happy with my consoles.

* Yes I know, some console games have framerate problems aswell, but this occurs on every console and doesnt depend on your rig, so you dont have to fix the problem.

With PC's you must remember that the price depends on the settings you want to play games on, if you know what I mean

Oh, and to whomever said you can buy used console games cheap - you can buy new PC games just as cheap. A lot of times you can even share your purchased PC games with your friends and play together, which isn't possible with console games. Console games are nice, though, cause they always work. But the only reason they always work is because the console hardware is static, which isn't necessarily a good thing to electronics enthusiasts like me. I'd like to see a console with upgradeable hardware. That'd be cool.SentientGames

Yes you can share PC games with your friends through CD hacks, burning the discs and having key generators and all that but those methods are illegal.

I can easily buy a bottle of Cuervo, get drunk and throw a brick through my local EBgames window while i'm decked out in all black and a ski mask... I can then grab thousands of dollars in games and equipment for free and give them to my friends as party favors... but that is also illegal and doesn't make console gaming cheaper.

And people that say to enjoy console games you need an $12,000 62 inch OLED TV, a $38,000 2008 Dodge Ram pick-up truck to get the TV home and a $150,000 dollar house with a perfect designed gaming room to enjoy console games which brings the price of console gaming to $200,000+ while for Pc gaming all you need is a $300 ACER laptop because you can live in your parent's basement for free, piggy back off of a wireless connection in the neighborhood and download all the games you want for free off the internet are bringing up the same illogical points that have been brought up a million times before.

All you need is AT LEAST $500 for the console, $60 for a game and you are in your house playing COD4 with slightly less than high end PC quality graphics.

This is like saying you need a $4000 PC, a $6,000amish handcrafted solidmahogany desk with cherry trim, and a $3,000leather chair crafted from the Queen's own stock of the finest purebred bovine in all her kingdom to enjoy PC gaming. Also you need the Dolce designedgold plated mouse and all that junk....

blah you dont need all that crap.

Truth is if you have to nitpick on which system costs more, you're so worried about not having the best and you have to resort to piracy or stealing to get it, maybe you should get a better job or find a cheaper hobby like Magic: The Gathering cards.

In the end console gaming is cheaper... It's a fact that a computer that can put out graphics like a 360 is more expensive than a 360... it's a fact that you can rent all the newest console games for $5-$7 a pop while the cheapest brand new PC game is $30 if you're lucky. you dont need xbox live just like you dont need a fiber optic connection for PC gaming, you dont need a 78" TV just like you don't need a top of the line sound card and a Bose 8.5 surround sound professionally installed by mozart himself. end of story. anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy that's lying to themselves.

[QUOTE="SentientGames"]

Oh, and to whomever said you can buy used console games cheap - you can buy new PC games just as cheap. A lot of times you can even share your purchased PC games with your friends and play together, which isn't possible with console games. Console games are nice, though, cause they always work. But the only reason they always work is because the console hardware is static, which isn't necessarily a good thing to electronics enthusiasts like me. I'd like to see a console with upgradeable hardware. That'd be cool.smerlus

In the end console gaming is cheaper... It's a fact that a computer that can put out graphics like a 360 is more expensive than a 360... it's a fact that you can rent all the newest console games for $5-$7 a pop while the cheapest brand new PC game is $30 if you're lucky. you dont need xbox live just like you dont need a fiber optic connection for PC gaming, you dont need a 78" TV just like you don't need a top of the line sound card and a Bose 8.5 surround sound professionally installed by mozart himself. end of story. anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy that's lying to themselves.

no, you get more value out of your 800-1300$ computer than you do with a 500$ 360.

and Bose is your benchmark for good sound? Bose is crap.

[QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="SentientGames"]

Oh, and to whomever said you can buy used console games cheap - you can buy new PC games just as cheap. A lot of times you can even share your purchased PC games with your friends and play together, which isn't possible with console games. Console games are nice, though, cause they always work. But the only reason they always work is because the console hardware is static, which isn't necessarily a good thing to electronics enthusiasts like me. I'd like to see a console with upgradeable hardware. That'd be cool.WARxSnake

In the end console gaming is cheaper... It's a fact that a computer that can put out graphics like a 360 is more expensive than a 360... it's a fact that you can rent all the newest console games for $5-$7 a pop while the cheapest brand new PC game is $30 if you're lucky. you dont need xbox live just like you dont need a fiber optic connection for PC gaming, you dont need a 78" TV just like you don't need a top of the line sound card and a Bose 8.5 surround sound professionally installed by mozart himself. end of story. anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy that's lying to themselves.

no, you get more value out of your 800-1300$ computer than you do with a 500$ 360.

and Bose is your benchmark for good sound? Bose is crap.

I also get more value out of a van with a gamecube in it... doesn't mean it's a great gaming machine and the $20,000 price tag makes it cheaper so what's your point?

and secondly your point about bose...who cares? are amish people the best craftsmens? does the queen really have purebred bovines that she sells to make leather chairs? are there 72" OLED TVs out on the market?

if you want to fact check someone's sarcastic post, you really have too much time on your hands

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="SentientGames"]

Oh, and to whomever said you can buy used console games cheap - you can buy new PC games just as cheap. A lot of times you can even share your purchased PC games with your friends and play together, which isn't possible with console games. Console games are nice, though, cause they always work. But the only reason they always work is because the console hardware is static, which isn't necessarily a good thing to electronics enthusiasts like me. I'd like to see a console with upgradeable hardware. That'd be cool.smerlus

In the end console gaming is cheaper... It's a fact that a computer that can put out graphics like a 360 is more expensive than a 360... it's a fact that you can rent all the newest console games for $5-$7 a pop while the cheapest brand new PC game is $30 if you're lucky. you dont need xbox live just like you dont need a fiber optic connection for PC gaming, you dont need a 78" TV just like you don't need a top of the line sound card and a Bose 8.5 surround sound professionally installed by mozart himself. end of story. anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy that's lying to themselves.

no, you get more value out of your 800-1300$ computer than you do with a 500$ 360.

and Bose is your benchmark for good sound? Bose is crap.

I also get more value out of a van with a gamecube in it... doesn't mean it's a great gaming machine and the $20,000 price tag makes it cheaper so what's your point?

and secondly your point about bose...who cares? are amish people the best craftsmens? does the queen really have purebred bovines that she sells to make leather chairs? are there 72" OLED TVs out on the market?

if you want to fact check someone's sarcastic post, you really have too much time on your hands

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

WARxSnake

I'm just following your logic... so what? you have a computer and you can play games, surf porn, talk to people... my imaginary van with a gamecube can smuggle illegal aliens for $2000 a head, sleep 3, drive me to work and help my friends move... what does useful have to do with anything when we're talking about price? you even listed a more expensive piece of equipment then wrote some tripe about uses when if you look at the title it's all about price.

and i do have a lot of time on my hands, i'm a manager where i work and right now i'm getting paid to sit here and respond....please dont insult me like that, it hurts my feelings

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

smerlus

I'm just following your logic... so what? you have a computer and you can play games, surf porn, talk to people... my imaginary van with a gamecube can smuggle illegal aliens for $2000 a head, sleep 3, drive me to work and help my friends move... what does useful have to do with anything when we're talking about price? you even listed a more expensive piece of equipment then wrote some tripe about uses when if you look at the title it's all about price.

and i do have a lot of time on my hands, i'm a manager where i work and right now i'm getting paid to sit here and respond....please dont insult me like that, it hurts my feelings

if you actually read my post before answering like a pig, I did talk about price and how a PC is cheaper in the long run.

[QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

WARxSnake

I'm just following your logic... so what? you have a computer and you can play games, surf porn, talk to people... my imaginary van with a gamecube can smuggle illegal aliens for $2000 a head, sleep 3, drive me to work and help my friends move... what does useful have to do with anything when we're talking about price? you even listed a more expensive piece of equipment then wrote some tripe about uses when if you look at the title it's all about price.

and i do have a lot of time on my hands, i'm a manager where i work and right now i'm getting paid to sit here and respond....please dont insult me like that, it hurts my feelings

if you actually read my post before answering like a pig, I did talk about price and how a PC is cheaper in the long run.

yeah you did talk about price and named something that costs more in a topic about which one is cheaper. i dont care if you build a PC for $.20 cents more than a PS3 that can wash clothes, babysit kids, do taxes and cure cancer... if it's $.20 more expensive then it's not cheaper... common sense.

if price is a problem then it's easier and cheaper to rent a console game than buying a pc game so how is a pc cheaper in the long run?

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

smerlus

I'm just following your logic... so what? you have a computer and you can play games, surf porn, talk to people... my imaginary van with a gamecube can smuggle illegal aliens for $2000 a head, sleep 3, drive me to work and help my friends move... what does useful have to do with anything when we're talking about price? you even listed a more expensive piece of equipment then wrote some tripe about uses when if you look at the title it's all about price.

and i do have a lot of time on my hands, i'm a manager where i work and right now i'm getting paid to sit here and respond....please dont insult me like that, it hurts my feelings

if you actually read my post before answering like a pig, I did talk about price and how a PC is cheaper in the long run.

yeah you did talk about price and named something that costs more in a topic about which one is cheaper. i dont care if you build a PC for $.20 cents more than a PS3 that can wash clothes, babysit kids, do taxes and cure cancer... if it's $.20 more expensive then it's not cheaper... common sense.

if price is a problem then it's easier and cheaper to rent a console game than buying a pc game so how is a pc cheaper in the long run?

you dont understand the concept of 'in the long run' do you?

if you think this topic is about which system is cheaper at purchase time, then sorry but that's idiotic. Any idiot knows a console is cheaper than a pc, but a PC is cheaper on the wallet in the long run with cheaper RETAIL games. How is it fair to compare renting a game and owning a game. If you are going to BUY the game, its factually cheaper on PC.

Again if you are comparing renting games to purchasing games, what's the point??? ANYTHING that you RENT will be cheaper than buying it, I think that's hella obvious.

It's like proving that the earth is spherical

[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

WARxSnake

I'm just following your logic... so what? you have a computer and you can play games, surf porn, talk to people... my imaginary van with a gamecube can smuggle illegal aliens for $2000 a head, sleep 3, drive me to work and help my friends move... what does useful have to do with anything when we're talking about price? you even listed a more expensive piece of equipment then wrote some tripe about uses when if you look at the title it's all about price.

and i do have a lot of time on my hands, i'm a manager where i work and right now i'm getting paid to sit here and respond....please dont insult me like that, it hurts my feelings

if you actually read my post before answering like a pig, I did talk about price and how a PC is cheaper in the long run.

yeah you did talk about price and named something that costs more in a topic about which one is cheaper. i dont care if you build a PC for $.20 cents more than a PS3 that can wash clothes, babysit kids, do taxes and cure cancer... if it's $.20 more expensive then it's not cheaper... common sense.

if price is a problem then it's easier and cheaper to rent a console game than buying a pc game so how is a pc cheaper in the long run?

you dont understand the concept of 'in the long run' do you?

if you think this topic is about which system is cheaper at purchase time, then sorry but that's idiotic. Any idiot knows a console is cheaper than a pc, but a PC is cheaper on the wallet in the long run with cheaper RETAIL games. How is it fair to compare renting a game and owning a game. If you are going to BUY the game, its factually cheaper on PC.

Again if you are comparing renting games to purchasing games, what's the point??? ANYTHING that you RENT will be cheaper than buying it, I think that's hella obvious.

It's like proving that the earth is spherical

it's a simple concept and so is the concept that if $10 per game is going to force someone to file for chapter 11 then it's not smart splashing down $1,000 for a computer either... once again common sense. So if you HAVE to count pennies and HAVE to play the latest games, there is nothing cheaper than console gaming. you buy a $300 and rent games at $7 a piece...

the title doesn't say cheapest to own, doesn't say cheapest and most useful and i dont see you mentioning anything to any of the PC people that said you can pirate games which means you probably fall into the catagory in my one post.... you're a PC fanboy and can't accept common sense.

the easiest way i can break this down is i'll give us each $350 and sayget COD4 and a system that can play it fairly well...and guess what? I can get a console and rent the game for that and you can buya bare bones desktop that can barely handle the game and no cod4... which one is cheaper?

I can easily buy a bottle of Cuervo, get drunk and throw a brick through my local EBgames window while i'm decked out in all black and a ski mask... I can then grab thousands of dollars in games and equipment for free and give them to my friends as party favors... but that is also illegal and doesn't make console gaming cheaper.

smerlus

This is a blatant mistruth. No man, or atleast, no real man can actually get drunk off of Jose Cuervo. Beer flavored water just doesn't get the job done. :P

[QUOTE="smerlus"]

I can easily buy a bottle of Cuervo, get drunk and throw a brick through my local EBgames window while i'm decked out in all black and a ski mask... I can then grab thousands of dollars in games and equipment for free and give them to my friends as party favors... but that is also illegal and doesn't make console gaming cheaper.

rragnaar

This is a blatant mistruth. No man, or atleast, no real man can actually get drunk off of Jose Cuervo. Beer flavored water just doesn't get the job done. :P

well throw in my crack habit and that i drop acid like vitamins and even water makes me a EBgames smashing bandit :P

~ in no way does smerlus do drugs or condone drug use~

[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

I can easily buy a bottle of Cuervo, get drunk and throw a brick through my local EBgames window while i'm decked out in all black and a ski mask... I can then grab thousands of dollars in games and equipment for free and give them to my friends as party favors... but that is also illegal and doesn't make console gaming cheaper.

smerlus

This is a blatant mistruth. No man, or atleast, no real man can actually get drunk off of Jose Cuervo. Beer flavored water just doesn't get the job done. :P

well throw in my crack habit and that i drop acid like vitamins and even water makes me a EBgames smashing bandit :P

~ in no way does smerlus do drugs or condone drug use~

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

with your trail of logic, i can relate console VS pc talk to the iraq war or Greek Mythology. You'r analogies are far fetched and meaningless.

If you reply to this, you have even more time on your own hands.

smerlus

I'm just following your logic... so what? you have a computer and you can play games, surf porn, talk to people... my imaginary van with a gamecube can smuggle illegal aliens for $2000 a head, sleep 3, drive me to work and help my friends move... what does useful have to do with anything when we're talking about price? you even listed a more expensive piece of equipment then wrote some tripe about uses when if you look at the title it's all about price.

and i do have a lot of time on my hands, i'm a manager where i work and right now i'm getting paid to sit here and respond....please dont insult me like that, it hurts my feelings

if you actually read my post before answering like a pig, I did talk about price and how a PC is cheaper in the long run.

yeah you did talk about price and named something that costs more in a topic about which one is cheaper. i dont care if you build a PC for $.20 cents more than a PS3 that can wash clothes, babysit kids, do taxes and cure cancer... if it's $.20 more expensive then it's not cheaper... common sense.

if price is a problem then it's easier and cheaper to rent a console game than buying a pc game so how is a pc cheaper in the long run?

you dont understand the concept of 'in the long run' do you?

if you think this topic is about which system is cheaper at purchase time, then sorry but that's idiotic. Any idiot knows a console is cheaper than a pc, but a PC is cheaper on the wallet in the long run with cheaper RETAIL games. How is it fair to compare renting a game and owning a game. If you are going to BUY the game, its factually cheaper on PC.

Again if you are comparing renting games to purchasing games, what's the point??? ANYTHING that you RENT will be cheaper than buying it, I think that's hella obvious.

It's like proving that the earth is spherical

it's a simple concept and so is the concept that if $10 per game is going to force someone to file for chapter 11 then it's not smart splashing down $1,000 for a computer either... once again common sense. So if you HAVE to count pennies and HAVE to play the latest games, there is nothing cheaper than console gaming. you buy a $300 and rent games at $7 a piece...

the title doesn't say cheapest to own, doesn't say cheapest and most useful and i dont see you mentioning anything to any of the PC people that said you can pirate games which means you probably fall into the catagory in my one post.... you're a PC fanboy and can't accept common sense.

the easiest way i can break this down is i'll give us each $350 and sayget COD4 and a system that can play it fairly well...and guess what? I can get a console and rent the game for that and you can buya bare bones desktop that can barely handle the game and no cod4... which one is cheaper?

1. why the hell would you want to play cod4 on console

2. i dont pirate games since i make games, its counter intuitive, but thanks for calling me a pirate.

3. im a pc fanboy yet i own a pc, a ps3, and an xbox360 (and an HDTV and accessories bought for the consoles).. okay.

What you already have and what your standard of quality is, definatley affects whether you will get more value out of buying a gaming PC or a Console.

If you already have a high quality TV for watching videos, purchasing a console is definateley the more obvious choice. On the other hand, if you don't have a decent TV and want to play games at a decent resolution, picking up a gaming rig may actually be cheaper due not having to buy a TV. Bonus points to the PC if you don't already have one as it allows you to do those other tasks that your everday PC can do.

Honestly, the idea of better value is independent to each person and their situation. Even timing can affect this since PCs' value continuously increases whereas console's does only at discrete intervals (launch of new systems).

The "play of experience" of the console or the PC might be cheaper depending on what parts of the entire experience you need to buy (TV, whole new PC, etc.).

And yes, PC games generally are cheaper and drop in price faster, so that does have an affect on the long run cost of the system. However, it entirely depends on the gamers habits. I'd estimate over three years, that factor can make the PC price seem 100$ (10 games) to 500$ (50 games) cheaper. But once again, that depends on the gamer. And if you want to argue for PCs being cheaper because you can Pirate games. Please strip yourself of the title 'gamer', as you are not supporting anyone in the gaming community.

1. why the hell would you want to play cod4 on console

2. i dont pirate games since i make games, its counter intuitive, but thanks for calling me a pirate.

3. im a pc fanboy yet i own a pc, a ps3, and an xbox360 (and an HDTV and accessories bought for the consoles).. okay.

WARxSnake

1. spoken like a true PC fanboy

2. i didn't say you pirate games, but i notice you want to bring up my absurd inaccuracies but you pretty much left alone all the pro pc people saying that you can pirate games which brings me to...

3. see points 1 and 2.

[QUOTE="SentientGames"]

Oh, and to whomever said you can buy used console games cheap - you can buy new PC games just as cheap. A lot of times you can even share your purchased PC games with your friends and play together, which isn't possible with console games. Console games are nice, though, cause they always work. But the only reason they always work is because the console hardware is static, which isn't necessarily a good thing to electronics enthusiasts like me. I'd like to see a console with upgradeable hardware. That'd be cool.smerlus

Yes you can share PC games with your friends through CD hacks, burning the discs and having key generators and all that but those methods are illegal.

I can easily buy a bottle of Cuervo, get drunk and throw a brick through my local EBgames window while i'm decked out in all black and a ski mask... I can then grab thousands of dollars in games and equipment for free and give them to my friends as party favors... but that is also illegal and doesn't make console gaming cheaper.

And people that say to enjoy console games you need an $12,000 62 inch OLED TV, a $38,000 2008 Dodge Ram pick-up truck to get the TV home and a $150,000 dollar house with a perfect designed gaming room to enjoy console games which brings the price of console gaming to $200,000+ while for Pc gaming all you need is a $300 ACER laptop because you can live in your parent's basement for free, piggy back off of a wireless connection in the neighborhood and download all the games you want for free off the internet are bringing up the same illogical points that have been brought up a million times before.

All you need is AT LEAST $500 for the console, $60 for a game and you are in your house playing COD4 with slightly less than high end PC quality graphics.

This is like saying you need a $4000 PC, a $6,000amish handcrafted solidmahogany desk with cherry trim, and a $3,000leather chair crafted from the Queen's own stock of the finest purebred bovine in all her kingdom to enjoy PC gaming. Also you need the Dolce designedgold plated mouse and all that junk....

blah you dont need all that crap.

Truth is if you have to nitpick on which system costs more, you're so worried about not having the best and you have to resort to piracy or stealing to get it, maybe you should get a better job or find a cheaper hobby like Magic: The Gathering cards.

In the end console gaming is cheaper... It's a fact that a computer that can put out graphics like a 360 is more expensive than a 360... it's a fact that you can rent all the newest console games for $5-$7 a pop while the cheapest brand new PC game is $30 if you're lucky. you dont need xbox live just like you dont need a fiber optic connection for PC gaming, you dont need a 78" TV just like you don't need a top of the line sound card and a Bose 8.5 surround sound professionally installed by mozart himself. end of story. anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy that's lying to themselves.

Wow, you took that out of context and ran with it. For a while. Where do you get off accusing me of piracy?For the record, my brother and I play Doom 3 all the time by sharing the same DVD, and we didn't use any hacks so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. That's just the way the game is made.

Your analogies are exagerated ridiculously and your bias is palpable. Byyour logic, to own a console you also have to own a house and an expensive car, when in reality most console owners aren't out of middle-school yet. Oh, and renting games isn't worth it to everyone. I prefer to own a game, rather then give BlockBuster money to borrow a game. You end up spending a bunch of money anyway and have nothing physical to show for it.

I dunno dude, if you want to think that all gaming PC's cost 15,000 and up, go right ahead. In the mean time, I can do a hundred other things with my PC that I can't do with my 360, including create my own games which is worth it by itself. I mean, my PC by itself cost me about $1000. My PS3 was $599. I get far more use out of my PC then my PS3.

You got a 9800 pro in 03? Isn't the highest right now a 8800GTX or something?

You got a 9800 pro in 03? Isn't the highest right now a 8800GTX or something?

Nerkcon

9800pro is an old ATI card

well...first of all to have a good computer equals to have the newest console....so to have the best computer...there's a long way to that. You know that now, you can play a ps2 game on a quad core procesor computer...I'm not sure about ps3 though. And about pirated games...sure it's much easier to play a pirated pc game...but I won't say that it's risky to play a pirated console game...well we'll pretty soon need a b-ray writer on our pc's that's for sure!:?net_mugger

The only reason emulation software is slow is because it takes a lot to constantly translate the game to be playable on the pc. Don't kid yourself, PC's are way more powerful.

Wow, you took that out of context and ran with it. For a while. Where do you get off accusing me of piracy?For the record, my brother and I play Doom 3 all the time by sharing the same DVD, and we didn't use any hacks so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. That's just the way the game is made.

Your analogies are exagerated ridiculously and your bias is palpable. Byyour logic, to own a console you also have to own a house and an expensive car, when in reality most console owners aren't out of middle-school yet. Oh, and renting games isn't worth it to everyone. I prefer to own a game, rather then give BlockBuster money to borrow a game. You end up spending a bunch of money anyway and have nothing physical to show for it.

I dunno dude, if you want to think that all gaming PC's cost 15,000 and up, go right ahead. In the mean time, I can do a hundred other things with my PC that I can't do with my 360, including create my own games which is worth it by itself. I mean, my PC by itself cost me about $1000. My PS3 was $599. I get far more use out of my PC then my PS3.

SentientGames

reading skills would help you out here...

you named one game you can share out of thousands of games... i can easily name 2 games you need the discs and key codes to work... Neverwinter Nights 2 and its expansion. in fact the majority of PC games need either the disk, keycodes or things like that so you can't just bring them over a friends house and let him play for free or install it and play it on more than one computer in your house... to pretend that you can just hand out even15% of PC games is laughable.

no it's not by my logic you need a house and car... it'spc fanboys logicthat you need an $8000 tv when you buy a console when it's not true.

and once again for the reading impaired, the logic is which one is cheaper, i dont care if you buy every single game in existence, and the collectors editions too plus get the shipped to you with same day shipping... THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT CHEAPEST and simply put i can buy a 300 console and rent brand new games for $7 which makes it the cheapest option.

and again, i dont care if you sleep with your computer and brush your teeth with it...learn to read and stick to the context of the topic. it's CHEAPEST not more useful... dont make me pull around my imaginary van ultra useful gaming rig with the gamecube in it because another use of that is to pull of imaginary internet drive by's with my friends

if you actually read what i said instead of blindly getting angry because i didn't say "pc is the CHEAPORISZTZ!" you would know that your post has no bearing here.

Gaming on the consoles usedto be a lot cheaper in the PS2/Dreamcast days. However, now with systems like 360 and PS3 costing so much, and needing all the add-ons (not to mention xbox charges you for multiplayer!!!) +HDTV. The tables have turned... or at least there is more of a balance. PC is certainly a great alternative now, more so than ever before.

Also if you have the know-how about building gaming rigs, you will find out that it isn't all that expensive... and no, if you build it right you don't have to "buy a new computer every year" ...at wors you will have to upgrade a part or two. Example: my bro's comp is 3-4 years old now and it can still run the newest stuff very well. FYI: the key do building a great rig is not in blowing money on all those flashy numbers and names, it is in picking components that work well as a whole system. Something most rady-made system in BestBuy/Walmart lack (too bad)

[QUOTE="SentientGames"]

Wow, you took that out of context and ran with it. For a while. Where do you get off accusing me of piracy?For the record, my brother and I play Doom 3 all the time by sharing the same DVD, and we didn't use any hacks so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. That's just the way the game is made.

Your analogies are exagerated ridiculously and your bias is palpable. Byyour logic, to own a console you also have to own a house and an expensive car, when in reality most console owners aren't out of middle-school yet. Oh, and renting games isn't worth it to everyone. I prefer to own a game, rather then give BlockBuster money to borrow a game. You end up spending a bunch of money anyway and have nothing physical to show for it.

I dunno dude, if you want to think that all gaming PC's cost 15,000 and up, go right ahead. In the mean time, I can do a hundred other things with my PC that I can't do with my 360, including create my own games which is worth it by itself. I mean, my PC by itself cost me about $1000. My PS3 was $599. I get far more use out of my PC then my PS3.

smerlus

reading skills would help you out here...

you named one game you can share out of thousands of games... i can easily name 2 games you need the discs and key codes to work... Neverwinter Nights 2 and its expansion. in fact the majority of PC games need either the disk, keycodes or things like that so you can't just bring them over a friends house and let him play for free or install it and play it on more than one computer in your house... to pretend that you can just hand out even15% of PC games is laughable.

no it's not by my logic you need a house and car... it'spc fanboys logicthat you need an $8000 tv when you buy a console when it's not true.

and once again for the reading impaired, the logic is which one is cheaper, i dont care if you buy every single game in existence, and the collectors editions too plus get the shipped to you with same day shipping... THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT CHEAPEST and simply put i can buy a 300 console and rent brand new games for $7 which makes it the cheapest option.

and again, i dont care if you sleep with your computer and brush your teeth with it...learn to read and stick to the context of the topic. it's CHEAPEST not more useful... dont make me pull around my imaginary van ultra useful gaming rig with the gamecube in it because another use of that is to pull of imaginary internet drive by's with my friends

if you actually read what i said instead of blindly getting angry because i didn't say "pc is the CHEAPORISZTZ!" you would know that your post has no bearing here.

Dude, chill out. No need to get your panties in a wad. I got defensive maybe... Angry? I don't think so. I've read everything you have to say, but to be quite honest, you can't expect people to read your posts carefully when they're so poorly written. There's so many elipses scattered throughout your posts that I can't tell where you sentenses begin and end. Before you tell me to learn to read, maybe you should learn to write. You're taking this discussion to personal and insulting level, which tells me you're not really trying to discuss as much as you are forcing your opinion on people. Like I said, you can think whatever you want.

I'm not out to convince you of anything. I shared my opinion on the topic and in turn you ranted for about eight paragraphs making all sorts of outlandish, exagerated analogies that you thought might somehow justify your point, and went out of your way to attack me on a personal level. Not only that, but you assumed and accused me of stealing games, and then went on to scold me for something you have no idea if I've even done. Congrats, man. You succeeded in taking a convorsation to the next level of internet retardedness.

I would have loved to continue to debate this, but you obvious can't stop your emotions from getting the better of you. This seems to be a very touchy topic for you, and you obviously are very opinionated and close-minded about the whole thing. For every point that I bring up, you'd just retort with another analogy that bends the whole argument around your point of view, despite the fact that the same analogy could easily be used against you as well. Next time you want to share your opinion and have people take you seriously, try not to act like such a prick.

Dude, chill out. No need to get your panties in a wad. I got defensive maybe... Angry? I don't think so. I've read everything you have to say, but to be quite honest, you can't expect people to read your posts carefully when they're so poorly written. There's so many elipses scattered throughout your posts that I can't tell where you sentenses begin and end. Before you tell me to learn to read, maybe you should learn to write. You're taking this discussion to personal and insulting level, which tells me you're not really trying to discuss as much as you are forcing your opinion on people. Like I said, you can think whatever you want.

I'm not out to convince you of anything. I shared my opinion on the topic and in turn you ranted for about eight paragraphs making all sorts of outlandish, exagerated analogies that you thought might somehow justify your point, and went out of your way to attack me on a personal level. Not only that, but you assumed and accused me of stealing games, and then went on to scold me for something you have no idea if I've even done. Congrats, man. You succeeded in taking a convorsation to the next level of internet retardedness.

I would have loved to continue to debate this, but you obvious can't stop your emotions from getting the better of you. This seems to be a very touchy topic for you, and you obviously are very opinionated and close-minded about the whole thing. For every point that I bring up, you'd just retort with another analogy that bends the whole argument around your point of view, despite the fact that the same analogy could easily be used against you as well. Next time you want to share your opinion and have people take you seriously, try not to act like such a prick.

SentientGames

you misinterpret me reaching a pinky over to theshift button for anger and you can't read my post because a few extra periods?

ok i can handle that.

I admit that I did take your statement that you can just hand games to your friends and play co-op or vs as pirating because there are so few titles you can actually do that with but my comment was more torwards the people in this topic that said "PC is cheaper because you can just download all the games you want." I apologize.

and maybe I watch too much South Park but i was just exagerating other people's exargerations that to play games on a PC you need a $5000 machine, to play on a console you need an $8000 tv. these are the same arguments made by PC and console fanboys everytime this topic is brought up and it's just flat out wrong.

but in the end, no one here can debate that if i gave a person $350 and told them to go out and get either a console or a PC and COD4 foreither format,that they would run out and get a console because they would be able to run COD4 absolutely fine while, if they went the PC route, All they would get is a destop that could barely run the game and no game. And then if they were really strapped for cash and had to be cheap, the best way to go is to rent console games, making the console the cheapest option around even in the long run.

there's no other optionINCLUDING piracy that a PC person could bring up to argue that point just for the fact that you can't rent PC games and you would need more than a $300 system to run the newest games at a decent level.

Console is the cheapest bar none, but i will agree that if you want to splurge on other options such as wireless adapters, 4 controllers, keyboard attachments, online access, buying games, playing them on HD tv's, then the price rivals even the most expensive systems out there, but then it's also possible to build a $9000 desk top with the latest and greatest.

All previous arguments aside, I think it's tough to say which is more expensive. We can bank our arguments on technicalities all day long, and no matter whatone person says, somebody else will come and invalidateit and present their ownopinion. I think at first glance, console gaming is cheaper then PC gaming. But that's not always the case.I mean, you can go on Ebay and get a brand new dell PC from less then $150 complete with a flat-panel monitor to display your games on, get some free internet, and have millions of free games at your disposal. All legally, no piracy, no hacks, no nothing. Throw in GameTap for ten bucks a month and you get a library of over 900 games; you don't even have to leave the house.

The range of prices is so wide and circumstances vary so much that it's imposible to presenta solid argument without someone stepping into to tell you how wrong you are. There's the whole point of current-gen vs. past-gen. Then, there's the fact that a lot of people put more value on the simplicity and reliability of consoles, while others put more value power and versatality of PCs. At the same time, I can honestly say that my 360 and PS3 crash/freeze more often then my PC - so in my personal experience consoles are sometimes less reliable then PCs.

I guess what I'm saying is this topic is purely "console-wars", and therefore is completely based on opinion and personal experience.