do you think the xbox 360 would be able to run CRYSIS at maxed out settings without any FPS drop whatsoever?
TOPIC:rumors,guesses.
This topic is locked from further discussion.
Maxed out settings? Are you kidding me?....Absolutely Not.
In fact, Xbox 360 wouldn't be able to handle Crysis on Medium settings.
We've pretty much reached a tipping point, you'll most likely never see a game on Xbox 360 beat out Crysis from a technical standpoint (artistic standpoint....yes, technical standpoint...no.)....and the only way I see one even coming close is if it has very confined environments, which again is a form of sacrifice.
Are you kidding me?....Absolutely Not.
In fact, Xbox 360 wouldn't be able to handle Crysis on Medium settings.
Robnyc22
Disagree, here's why: what it could not handle is some of the features of DX10 BFD. They could do it easily and it could look damn good. But and its a big But, M$ and Them want another separate VIABLEplatform for Vista Amoung other reasons. I'm not buying it until I have to though. I love my XP box.
PS looks are not all that important, when it comes to gameplay and here is where Crysis lets you down. I have the game and have played through a good part. I also have several versions of of Far Cry. Without a doubt this is a semi sequel. It plays like Far Cry, looks like Far Cry (better but,still). You can have your tech demos, I canwatch stuff on my HDTV if I want pretty. Sorry but all the hype about this game, now that its out and everyone can play, will be dead and gonein 2 to three months.
Ibet not one word will be said about this game in 2008. Unless its announcing a console version or sequel. I have to say IMO, this game is pretty much a dud. COD4 blows it away. just IMO a 9.5 score here not withstanding it barely gets an 8 from me (using the GS system). Its a pretty Tech, of tech ..... no one really needs or wants. At least in its current form.
Disagree, here's why: what it could not handle is some of the features of DX10 BFD. They could do it easily and it could look damn good. But and its a big But, M$ and Them want another separate VIABLE platform for Vista Amoung other reasons. I'm not buying ituntil I have to though. I love my XP box.
_Bear
It has nothing to do with DX10 features....In Fact, the "DX10" features are easily enabled in DX9. The api has nothing to do with it.
Xbox 360 could never handle the level of textures, shaders and other features of Crysis combined with the big expansive interactive environment in the way it is presented on PC.....Xbox 360 simply doesn't have the resources.
You can try to pretend Console hardware from 2005 is magically as capable as hardware in 2007 all you want.....but doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
MS has absolutely nothing to do with where Crysis goes, if they did we probably wouldn't have gotten the game we did and instead we would have had some Xbox 360 exclusive shooter that wasn't nearly as technically impressive.
.....and again, all those "DX10" features, ie the Ultra High setting in Crysis is perfectly capable in Windows XP in DX9, in fact, Crysis runs better in DX9 with Ultra High Settings then it does in DX10.
Disagree, here's why: what it could not handle is some of the features of DX10 BFD. They could do it easily and it could look damn good. But and its a big But, M$ and Them want another separate VIABLE platform for Vista Amoung other reasons. I'm not buying ituntil I have to though. I love my XP box._Bear
The graphics are the last reason why neither the 360 nor the PS3 couldn't handle Crysis, especially DirectX. The problem is the game's features - sprawling open-ended and fully destructible/interactive environments. The consoles simply don't have anywhere near the necessary amount of RAM to run the game. When you add to that the near photo-realistic graphics, it becomes obvious that the 360 would blow up if it tried running Crysis. Even Gears of War looks much, much better on PC than it does on the 360 and compared to Crysis, Gears has tiny, non-interactive environments.
Crysis on consoles would have to be toned down graphically, but more importantly, it would have smaller levels, less objects, and less interactivity.
EDIT: Just take a look at Halo 3. It features big environments, but Bungie had to sacrifice graphics to achieve that just like they did with the first two games. Compared to Crysis, Halo 3's environments, although big, look bland and empty and feature basically no interactivity whatsoever.
Oh, sure. They could put it on the Xbox 360. After all, Valve manged to put Half-Life 2 on the original Xbox.
Don't expect it to look or run as well as it does on the PC though.
[QUOTE="_Bear"]Disagree, here's why: what it could not handle is some of the features of DX10 BFD. They could do it easily and it could look damn good. But and its a big But, M$ and Them want another separate VIABLE platform for Vista Amoung other reasons. I'm not buying ituntil I have to though. I love my XP box.
Robnyc22
It has nothing to do with DX10 features....In Fact, the "DX10" features are easily enabled in DX9. The api has nothing to do with it.
Xbox 360 could never handle the level of textures, shaders and other features of Crysis combined with the big expansive interactive environment in the way it is presented on PC.....Xbox 360 simply doesn't have the resources.
You can try to pretend Console hardware from 2005 is magically as capable as hardware in 2007 all you want.....but doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
MS has absolutely nothing to do with where Crysis goes, if they did we probably wouldn't have gotten the game we did and instead we would have had some Xbox 360 exclusive shooter that wasn't nearly as technically impressive.
.....and again, all those "DX10" features, ie the Ultra High setting in Crysis is perfectly capable in Windows XP in DX9, in fact, Crysis runs better in DX9 with Ultra High Settings then it does in DX10.
The bottom line is, as added in the above post . IT DOES NOT matter, the game is hype, its nothing special. Its apretty tech demo. The game itself is Far Cry on steriods. Its an 8 maybe, any real game player that plays this game over the great games out this season is nuts. The game is fun, have any of you tried the multi player? yuk.... I will pull it out again when I upgrade just to see how pretty it looks, just LIke I did with Far Cry.
PS looks are not all that important, when it comes to gameplay and here is where Crysis lets you down. I have the game and have played through a good part. I also have several versions of of Far Cry. Without a doubt this is a semi sequel. It plays like Far Cry, looks like Far Cry (better but,still). You can have your tech demos, I canwatch stuff on my HDTV if I want pretty. Sorry but all the hype about this game, now that its out and everyone can play, will be dead and gonein 2 to three months._Bear
Your personal opinion of the gameplay in Crysis is not gonna change the fact that Xbox 360 doesn't have the technical resources to run Crysis as the way it is on PC.....plain and simple.
I love how you go off on a rant about how Crysis is magically capable on 360 at max settings.....then when clearly it isn't, you fall back on the "looks are not all that important".
It's funny how some of the same users who fall back on the "looks aren't important" statement when talking about Crysis on PC sing a different tune when people talk about Nintendo Wii delivering impressive games where they harp on that "graphics do matter".
Looks are not all that important, that is correct, if they were the end all be all Starcraft 2 wouldnt be one of the most highly anticipated exclusive releases next year.....but what does that have to with Crysis being capable on 360.
...good job and trying to change the subject by trying to downplay the gameplay of Crysis.....again, the doesn't change the technical limitations of Xbox 360 and that it wouldn't be able to run Crysis in it's form on PC, and it also doesn't change the fact that Crysis has been getting steller reviews across the board.
Ibet not one word will be said about this game in 2008. Unless its announcing a console version or sequel. I have to say IMO, this game is pretty much a dud. COD4 blows it away. just IMO a 9.5 score here not withstanding it barely gets an 8 from me (using the GS system). Its a pretty Tech, of tech ..... no one really needs or wants. At least in its current form._Bear
The bolded part of that paragraph is the only part that didn't come of as some fanboy rant.
People are still talking about Far Cry, and people will still be talking about Crysis in 2008 and beyond.
Wanna know why? cause people talk about good games.
Not to mention I haven't seen anything announced for 2008 that will beat out Crysis in the graphics department, so it 2008 the game will still be a high benchmark for visuals.
The bottom line is, as added in the above post . IT DOES NOT matter, the game is hype, its nothing special. Its apretty tech demo. The game itself is Far Cry on steriods. Its an 8 maybe, any real game player that plays this game over the great games out this season is nuts. The game is fun, have any of you tried the multi player? yuk.... I will pull it out again when I upgrade just to see how pretty it looks, just LIke I did with Far Cry.
_Bear
Keep telling yourself that. The high reviews where a majority are over 90% and the high praise on gaming forums from numerous gamers tell a different story then the pitiful rant of someone who seems disgruntled cause this thing isn't on Console.
[QUOTE="_Bear"]PS looks are not all that important, when it comes to gameplay and here is where Crysis lets you down. I have the game and have played through a good part. I also have several versions of of Far Cry. Without a doubt this is a semi sequel. It plays like Far Cry, looks like Far Cry (better but,still). You can have your tech demos, I canwatch stuff on my HDTV if I want pretty. Sorry but all the hype about this game, now that its out and everyone can play, will be dead and gonein 2 to three months.Robnyc22
Your personal opinion of the gameplay in Crysis is not gonna change the fact that Xbox 360 doesn't have the technical resources to run Crysis as the way it is on PC.....plain and simple.
I love how you go off on a rant about how Crysis is magically capable on 360 at max settings.....then when clearly it isn't, you call back on the "looks are not all that important". It's funny how many 360 sing a different tune when people talk about Nintendo Wii being a capable system, suddenly we get the "graphics do matter".
Looks are not all that important, if they were the end all be all Starcraft 2 wouldnt be one of the most highly anticipated released on PC next year.....but what does that have to with Crysis being capable on 360.
...good job and trying to change the subject and trying to downplay Crysis.....again, the doesn't change the technical limitations of Xbox 360 and the fact that Crysis has been getting steller reviews across the board.
Ibet not one word will be said about this game in 2008. Unless its announcing a console version or sequel. I have to say IMO, this game is pretty much a dud. COD4 blows it away. just IMO a 9.5 score here not withstanding it barely gets an 8 from me (using the GS system). Its a pretty Tech, of tech ..... no one really needs or wants. At least in its current form._Bear
The bolded part of that paragraph is the only part that didn't come of as some fanboy rant.
People are still talking about Far Cry, and people will still be talking about Crysis in 2008 and beyond. Wanna know why? cause people talk about good games....that's why.
Not to mention I haven't seen anything announced for 2008 that will beat out Crysis in the graphics department, so it 2008 the game will still be a high benchmark for visuals.
The bottom line is, as added in the above post . IT DOES NOT matter, the game is hype, its nothing special. Its apretty tech demo. The game itself is Far Cry on steriods. Its an 8 maybe, any real game player that plays this game over the great games out this season is nuts. The game is fun, have any of you tried the multi player? yuk.... I will pull it out again when I upgrade just to see how pretty it looks, just LIke I did with Far Cry.
_Bear
Keep telling yourself that. The high reviews where a majority are over 90% and the high praise on gaming forums from numerous tell a different story then the pitiful rant of someone who seems disgruntled cause this thing isn't on Console.
The bolded part of the quote is the only part of the quote that did not come off the same as said, by it.
The 360 will need double the ram that it currently has (512mb) in order to handle Crysis in its current form at least. The GPU on the 360 is incapable of handling Crysis at max settings, heck even 2007 GPU's can't max out Crysis with stable framerates at high resolution and you think late 05/early 06 (360's GPU was superior over PC's at that time) hardware tech will be able to do it :|
I want a PPU for next-gen consoles and more ram in order to have this big interactive environments, graphics I'm fine with how it is now; they should take the Wii approach regarding the GPU.
do you think the xbox 360 would be able to run CRYSIS at maxed out settings without any FPS drop whatsoever?
TOPIC:rumors,guesses.
ILLMIND07
Absolutely no way.
Disagree, here's why: what it could not handle is some of the features of DX10 BFD. They could do it easily and it could look damn good. But and its a big But, M$ and Them want another separate VIABLEplatform for Vista Amoung other reasons. I'm not buying it until I have to though. I love my XP box.
_Bear
PS looks are not all that important, when it comes to gameplay and here is where Crysis lets you down. I have the game and have played through a good part. I also have several versions of of Far Cry. Without a doubt this is a semi sequel. It plays like Far Cry, looks like Far Cry (better but,still). You can have your tech demos, I canwatch stuff on my HDTV if I want pretty. Sorry but all the hype about this game, now that its out and everyone can play, will be dead and gonein 2 to three months.
Ibet not one word will be said about this game in 2008. Unless its announcing a console version or sequel. I have to say IMO, this game is pretty much a dud. COD4 blows it away. just IMO a 9.5 score here not withstanding it barely gets an 8 from me (using the GS system). Its a pretty Tech, of tech ..... no one really needs or wants. At least in its current form.
_Bear
I want a PPU for next-gen consoles and more ram in order to have this big interactive environments, graphics I'm fine with how it is now; they should take the Wii approach regarding the GPU.
D3s7rUc71oN
maximum settings i doubt. turn down the draw distance and the detail quite a bit and im sure its doable, but would it be anywhere near the same quality? i dont think so at all.
fact of the matter is that regardless of what anyone thinks of crysis (im not big on it myself) the game was made to promote 2 things: pc gaming, and in turn, hardware sales. if people knew it was going to go to the 360 many of them who own it wouldnt upgrade their pc to play it.
The bottom line is, as added in the above post . IT DOES NOT matter, the game is hype, its nothing special. Its apretty tech demo. The game itself is Far Cry on steriods. Its an 8 maybe, any real game player that plays this game over the great games out this season is nuts. The game is fun, have any of you tried the multi player? yuk.... I will pull it out again when I upgrade just to see how pretty it looks, just LIke I did with Far Cry.
_Bear
Unfortunately for you Bear, this thread is not about what gamers think of the game but whether or not it can run on the 360. Try to stay on the topic.
[QUOTE="_Bear"]The bottom line is, as added in the above post . IT DOES NOT matter, the game is hype, its nothing special. Its apretty tech demo. The game itself is Far Cry on steriods. Its an 8 maybe, any real game player that plays this game over the great games out this season is nuts. The game is fun, have any of you tried the multi player? yuk.... I will pull it out again when I upgrade just to see how pretty it looks, just LIke I did with Far Cry.
Pedro
Unfortunately for you Bear, this thread is not about what gamers think of the game but whether or not it can run on the 360. Try to stay on the topic.
You are right as well as others, but I still think the 360 could run a watered down version and it would be close gameplay wise.
Really its not that unfortunate, it's a disagreement on an internet forum. I think I will get over it along with others hopefully.
It would be the same deal as Far Cry on the Xbox. Heavily optimised.selbie
Far Cry never went to Xbox, for the same reason, Xbox didn't have the resources to run Far Cry.
What Xbox got was Far Cry: Instincts....an offshoot that was on a completely different engine, was developed by a completely different developer and development team, and where the environments were different and a lot more confined and linear.
Crytek had nothing to do with Far Cry: Instincts on Xbox.
This really got to two pages without being locked when the answer is simply no?
Can any PC really run this game at it's highest settings without being dual (or quad) core with over 2 gigs of RAM and 2 top of the line video cards? I've heardit's not currently possible from a few sources, and a bit of time will have to pass so that the hardware will be able to catch up.
Considering how much more far along PC's tech is comparatively to consoles, no, there's no possible way that one could handle a game that the most powerful computer presently cannot.
Maxed out settings? Are you kidding me?....Absolutely Not.
In fact, Xbox 360 wouldn't be able to handle Crysis on Medium settings.
We've pretty much reached a tipping point, you'll most likely never see a game on Xbox 360 beat out Crysis from a technical standpoint (artistic standpoint....yes, technical standpoint...no.)....and the only way I see one even coming close is if it has very confined environments, which again is a form of sacrifice.
Robnyc22
The Xbox 360 could definitely handle Crysis on medium. What the hell are you talking about?
[QUOTE="selbie"]It would be the same deal as Far Cry on the Xbox. Heavily optimised.Robnyc22
Far Cry never went to Xbox, for the same reason, Xbox didn't have the resources to run Far Cry.
What Xbox got was Far Cry: Instincts....an offshoot that was on a completely different engine, was developed by a completely different developer and development team, and where the environments were different and a lot more confined and linear.
Crytek had nothing to do with Far Cry: Instincts on Xbox.
Wow. I never knew that :?I think there would be difficulties fitting Crysis onto a DVD, for starters. All those people who say the Blu-Ray Disc for PS3 is useless are going to get kicked in the head when they realise that, if only developers put the time and effort in, instead of glueing together lazy ports, they could get Crysis on PS3 looking as good as on the PC.XBOX 360 would run Crysis, just with some compromises. But, I still believe that the chip in the windscreen of XBOX 360 that will inevitably become a very large crack, is Microsoft's decision to fit games onto a DVD. Whoops! Agree or disagree with me if you must.
I think there would be difficulties fitting Crysis onto a DVD, for starters. All those people who say the Blu-Ray Disc for PS3 is useless are going to get kicked in the head when they realise that, if only developers put the time and effort in, instead of glueing together lazy ports, they could get Crysis on PS3 looking as good as on the PC.XBOX 360 would run Crysis, just with some compromises. But, I still believe that the chip in the windscreen of XBOX 360 that will inevitably become a very large crack, is Microsoft's decision to fit games onto a DVD. Whoops! Agree or disagree with me if you must.
sirelfblood
How many DVD's did the game come on for the PC?
The Xbox 360 could definitely handle Crysis on medium. What the hell are you talking about?
Ironfungus
No it couldn't. You should get a little more informed about hardware capabilities.
While you're at it, look at Gamespot's own performance guide and you'll see that even on Medium Quality the game is still requires resources that the Xbox 360 simply doesnt have to make the game run smoothly.
These are images of Crysis on medium quality straight from Gamespot's own guide.....not ultra, not high....medium. Even at medium, 360 doesn't have the resources to handle the large scale interactive environments at the texture and shader level presented here:
"Crysis could be on the 360 or PS3," said Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli. "It requires optimisation, that's what we've always communicated," he went on. "What you would not do is make Crysis on PS3, 360 and PC for a single shipping date, because we would lose the quality focus... So I say 'First PC version, then we'll see what happens'."
do you think the xbox 360 would be able to run CRYSIS at maxed out settings without any FPS drop whatsoever?
TOPIC:rumors,guesses.
ILLMIND07
If we're gonna use quotes, it's best to use ones from the latest interview....especially when they put what he said earlier into context:
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200710/N07.1004.1210.04388.htm?Page=2
Yerli: What I said was that Crysis could run on consoles. I ruled out any development whatsoever because there is no development on consoles. But what's happening is, is people are asking me if it's possible. Of course. You can get Crysis even on the Nintendo DS. But not that Crysis - you cannot get Crysis as it is on PC on any console. What you would have to do is compromise the design and the level design - in order of the PS3 and Xbox 360 regards you have to fulfill the memory constraints.
"In order to make Crysis's gameplay [on console] you would have to makea derivative Crysis and optimize it for the Xbox 360 and PS3."
Thanks for posting this... I have not seen this interview. If this does not answer the original poster's question, than nothing will. This is coming directly from the "horse's mouth".
If we're gonna use quotes, it's best to use ones from the latest interview....especially when they put what he said earlier into context:
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200710/N07.1004.1210.04388.htm?Page=2
Yerli: What I said was that Crysis could run on consoles. I ruled out any development whatsoever because there is no development on consoles. But what's happening is, is people are asking me if it's possible. Of course. You can get Crysis even on the Nintendo DS. But not that Crysis - you cannot get Crysis as it is on PC on any console. What you would have to do is compromise the design and the level design - in order of the PS3 and Xbox 360 regards you have to fulfill the memory constraints."In order to make Crysis's gameplay [on console] you would have to makea derivative Crysis and optimize it for the Xbox 360 and PS3."
Robnyc22
do you think the xbox 360 would be able to run CRYSIS at maxed out settings without any FPS drop whatsoever?
TOPIC:rumors,guesses.
ILLMIND07
No, it couldn't. The best PC in the world today couldn't run it at max settings at say, 60 FPS, with no slowdown. The 360 could handle everything on high with no physics, probably.
Medium setting yes no doubt. But who cares about Crysis at medium setting ?
Very high settings forget it few PC can definately requires Sli or Crossfire combo of gpu.
Full high setting unlikely as my PC can't run it at full high and multiplatform games always look better on my PC than on my 360 (but my PC is close to be able to run Crysis on full high i only have to put shadows at medium).
But i think with some optimization Crytek could probably achieve something between medium and high. But for sure like Bethesda with Oblivion Crytek will have to cut some corners specially draw distance and textures quality. Enough that with the low price of a 8800 GT 512MB (250$ CAD new) and the ridiculous low price of RAM these days (can be found at around 40-50$ USD for 2GB) i don't see why PC owners with a good CPU should wait for a 360 version specially since PC games are 10$ less than 360 games which cover 25% of the cost of a ram upgrade to 2GB which is needed anyway for most games these days.
Oblivion looks good on 360 but definately not as good as on a gaming PC with a 2GB of ram anf a good video card (something like (x1800 and better). The difference is not that big but there's definately a difference enough big that someone with a good PC should get the PC version imo.
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment