Dark Souls 3 PvP is straight broken

I am so pissed off with the PvP/Covenants in this game!

I wouldn't mind so much but they have tied rings and magic that I need for the Platinum into them. The faction items are the ONLY items I need for Platinum and the damn thing is just SO FRUSTRATING.

Covenants NEVER seem to summon me. Hours I've been playing the game with the little icon next to my health flashing and not one summon. So how the **** are we supposed to rank up factions if we can't actually FIGHT for them?

Then the PvP covenants. You invade someone in this game and they either have six people already waiting for you in which case you have no chance or the game is so laggy it is basically unplayable. I mean do you fucking losers actually find rolling over a player 6 v 1 fun? Fucking casuals invading again.

Then on top of that you have to put up with shit like the poise mechanic not working in the game so you just get pussies who stand there jabbing you with a quick weapon into instant stun lock that you can't escape from. Slow clap for the skill-less generation we are in.

The entire process is an unbalanced joke. Fucking pathetic. Make a dedicated multiplayer area and let us fight fair duels. FFS!

Well good bye Platinum anyway. I'm not banging my head against that wall any longer. Fucking idiotic.

I've had a lot of fun with PvP so don't really understand your complaints.

If you want less ganks? Use the Red Soap Stone, unlike the Red-Eye Orb you have a better chance having a fair 1V1. Otherwise, before invading get use to the map area and take advantage. I've had some success with 1v3 so can recommend this tactic.

After reading some of your comment I was thinking of offering you the items through password, just to ease your experience. But, after reading the whole thing. Would not! It just came across as sad bitterness. & if nothing, I'm not a fan of Soul gamers with your attitude.

I've killed Hosts, Sentinels, Mad Spirits and Dark Phantoms in the plenty on both PS4 and P.C. & Yes. I've lost at least 20% of my duels, but I never blame the game, I blame myself for getting greedy, or being unprepared.

Truth is. All your complaints minus some Covenant summons is a 'you' problem, & blaming the game/ community for self failures.

Calling fellow Unkindled "fucking losers" & "casuals" when you are the one having no successful duels, just makes me think you should record your duels and analyse what 'you' do wrong. Because it is you. Stop blaming the game and players. For the most case I've had lag free duels on two different platforms, with many successful wins.

Pick yourself up, stop being a sissy, and fight the good fight.

_Furthermore. Hope I invade you, or have invaded you. Either way works for me_

@RSM-HQ: I've killed my fair share of people as well but that doesn't mean that I can ignore the glaring issues with the PvP.

Invading someone is part of the game and invading people 9/10 involved a handicapped and lagged experience. Which isn't fun in the slightest.

I'm using the items THEY supplied as they were DESIGNED to be used.

I never said no successful duels I said duels are shit. Let me guess you are one of the casuals I was talking about. Who can only play by having five friends with you and using cheap tactics and I hurt your pitiful self esteem.

God I'm sick of losers like you. Why don't you grow the **** up, grow a pair and actually give a REASONABLE view of a game without all the fanboy and consumer bullshit blinding your view and causing you to defend your purchase like it means something.

My god gaming and skill used to be linked together.

@dexda: You'd be wrong scrub. I've been Invading people solo and only coop with a friend on P.C. at low level. If he gets invaded I hang back and let him improve. Because that's what betters the community, encouraging players. Not being a scrub about it!

Feel free to duel me, I'll be up at Dragons Barracks on PS4 (near the dead Dragon) with my Mad Phantom sign for an hour SL51. Then on P.C. at Lothric Castle (near large stairway) SL61 for another hour. But I bet you won't show up, you're all talk. If it sweetens the deal for any SL, I'll every now and then use a password say "killyou"?

Less chit chat, because you're the real casual here. That's why you'll never make it in PvP over your ego. Sell your copy and be thankful I never parried you back to Firelink Shirne for a good ol fashioned boot licking!

My favorite part of DS3 PVP is how everytime I get someone down to an inch of their life, they suddenly become unhittable. I seriously had a match the other night go on for MINUTES with the invader at a sliver of health. I tried different swing timings, different angles, etc. Nothing would connect. They weren't even mindlessly rolling either.

They eventually got me and I was pissed. It has been a constant anytime I have had a PVP experience and I want to know WTF is up.

@LostProphetFLCL: I've actually heared this issue but never seen it myself. What platform may I ask?

PS4.

@LostProphetFLCL: Strange, oh well. Hey if you fancy some PvP the above counts for real PvPers as well :D

You seem to be the competitive type.

Normally use GFAQ for duel organisation, but the more the merrier ^_^

I plan on PVPing once I get my characters better set. I had been doing some invasions with my first character who is like an 81 now, but I am putting that character on hold.

Currently building up two characters who I will eventually get into PVPing with. Going to take a while for one as I plan on him maining the Dragonslayer Swordspear and considering I am ONLY at the Road of Sacrifice with him, it is going to take some time.

Actually need to figure out a weapon to main till I can get late game like that. Going to be a dex/faith build.

Why are people so obsessed with getting an arbitrary award for playing a game? What ever happened to playing for fun?

@LostProphetFLCL: I'm working on a Viking on P.C. and have a Samurai on PS4. Don't count my coop builds as I use them for my friends only.

Though SL80 tends to be my personal eventual meta. Not really into the much discussed 120 SL. As that's too high. You can have Greatsword Havel Wizards at that level lol. But anycase, even then the Password system scales on the Host so I've fought my fair share of overleveled Havel ninjas xD

Well, unlike the scrub trash talker. I wish you fun in this game. It's fantastic.

May your Invasions have minimal loading screens, and no existing lag :)

@foxhound_fox: I'm confused. Are you saying the achievements ain't fun. Or the multiplayer functions? Because I like the PvP :(

@dexda: I don't think you need online at all to get the platinium in this game ... you only have to find the item to join the various faction, nothing more.

you also need to find the tomes that let you learn the pyromancers, sorceres etc but you can find them in the game, no need to play online.

By playing online you get cool items when you "level up" your faction but it doesn't count toward any trophies.

Also you are just unprepare if your ennemy use a good weapon, boosted to make you blunt ... deal with it, it was the same in Bloodborne

Putting the "killyou" password on with my PS4 build at the already given location. So if you have the PS4 copy @Dexda? Now would be the time to prove your point!

Otherwise I'll be on the P.C. version in 45 minutes.

Achievements.

My first character is named Thor and is a basic strength build, but now that I know much more about the game I realized I fucked things up and have to make some serious changes.

My other two characters are Katniss (bow user who I am going to run dex/luck to be a bleed build) and Zeuss who will be the Swordspear user.

The game is solid but I am kinda losing a bit of love for it realizing how broken it currently is. Right now the way things are heavy armor is useless and with that it makes heavy strength builds really nerfed in the meta. I am literally running around with my Katniss character barely clothed (lightest piece of armor in each slot) and there isn't any noticeable impact in the amount of damage she receives when hit. In fact, I have been surprised how little damage I have taken from some attacks.

Combine that with certain enemies being stupidly irritating (I am glaring at the thralls right now who are WAY too much trouble for what is supposed to be a mild irritance kind of enemy) and I am already starting to change my mind when it comes to preferring this game to Bloodborne.

Hopefully Fromsoft fixes this game. I like to think they will enable poise at some point which will be a HUGE help.

I wish you fun on your adventures and hope that your PC characters do not get unjustifiably banned! :P

@foxhound_fox: Oh I agree, even though I have some Platinums, full achievements. They're about bets I make with friends to make them more fun. Have no current plans to Platinum DkSIII despite I have every trophy other than gestures for some reason lol.

. . . This is boring. So far no one to fight. . . OP are you even going to state which platform you have the game on? 'I assumed PS4 based on "goodbye Platinum"' Though would save me time to KYA if I knew for sure.

@LostProphetFLCL: Armor is similar to BB but to be honest the developers did state early on it would use defence closer to the Sony exclusive title.

However you want to wear (something) on every part of your body at all times as the game has two kinds of armor. One kind of armor is only fully activated when you wear something on every limb.

Just some friendly advice, and hope it helps.

What a waste of valuable gaming time *Removing the password* would like to get some duels before I have to switch platform.

Thanks for proving my point OP, you should really narrow down your trash talk when you can't back-it-up!

Will still try the password on P.C.soon, if that's even your platform >_<?

Oh I know, hence why I just wear the lightest piece on each slot. I hope to get my equip load sub 30% to be in the fastest bracket at least with Katniss.

It is really hard to get sub 30% though. Think I will either have to put points in Vigor or put on a Havels ring to get that sorted out.

You've shown your true self OP, and refused to respond or show up to the duel!

I assumed your silence is a factor that indeed, you are a PS4 Souls player. And went for being a coward, after swearing and trashing not just at me, but the overall community playing this game.

Regardless this will be my last post till otherwise on the subject, as I prepare to kill my time waiting on the P.C. version using the same password "killyou" and area mentioned in #post4

Please don't make me waste my time. If you don't have the P.C. version? Message in whatever way you prefer, I'm mellow on preference. Unlike you, I don't want to continue with words I want to see if you can back-up what you stated.

*I apologise to the GS Moderators if any of this comes across as fuelling the fire, or bad form. However I believe OPs attitude called me out, and I took that as a challenge.

@RSM-HQ:use shadowplay to record a duel if it happens, or stream to twitch and upload the duel. I'd actually watch you beat him :D

@thehig1: Great idea :) but so far it's just me waiting with the collapse gesture on the stairway :S

*edit- and no show, thus ending my involvement in this thread. I'm back working long shifts next week so if anyone wants to get involved with friendly PvP? I'll be in http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168566-dark-souls-iii at times pitching PvP sessions till late Sunday on both P.C. and PS4.

@Coco_pierrot: You do. In order to get certain rings and magics you need to RANK UP in the covenants. Which means collecting their covenant offerings.

Like the Warriors of Sunlight require Sunlight Medals which you offer to the shrine in Lothric Castle. To get those items you need to play co-op and fight bosses as a yellow or white phantom. That one isn't so bad.

But for other covenants like The Blades of the Darkmoon you have to BE SUMMONED at random by the covenant and defend certain areas of the game to get their offering items. I can't do that because it NEVER summons me. Which means I CAN'T fulfill the requirements of the covenant and rank up which means I can't get the items I need for Platinum.

You need 10 items for Rank 1 and 30 for Rank 2. Which is a LOT of PvP play to get the required rank. Which is made borderline impossible because of the crappy PvP system in this game.

@foxhound_fox: I'm not THAT bothered by the Platinum it is just that it is literally the last thing I need to do in the game as a final rounding off and completion of everything. Yet I can't do that because of the damn PvP screwing me over.

I mean I love Dark Souls but man this PvP is SO SHIT!

@RSM-HQ: YOU might do that but most other people DON'T DO THAT. They literally sit in their game with a gang of people around them waiting for invaders. It is utterly pathetic.

you guys are so cool, boasting about winning online games, whoa!!

@dexda: Every where I look they all say you don't need online at all to get al the trophies for this game. You can farm for the items offline, it will just take longer to get where you want. You'll also need to play 3 times as some rings are only avalaible in the 3rd playthrough and I'm sure all 3 endings require various task

@RSM-HQ:

What platform you play on, on PC its rarely happens, its normally 1v1 even when I invade.

@RSM-HQ said:

@thehig1: Great idea :) but so far it's just me waiting with the collapse gesture on the stairway :S

*edit- and no show, thus ending my involvement in this thread. I'm back working long shifts next week so if anyone wants to get involved with friendly PvP? I'll be in http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168566-dark-souls-iii at times pitching PvP sessions till late Sunday on both P.C. and PS4.

I'll give you a fight, not sure if you will be on, I finish work at midnight tonight (UK Time) so around 12:45 onwards I'll be able to play, I'm on PC soul level around 50s, could be 60 actually. I have not opened up lothric castle yet, if you could place you summon sign at Irithyll central bonfire area(seems a good PvP area I'll fight. (my username is dchiggins) I dont PvP often but I will show up and put up a fight!

@thehig1: I'm on PS4. Tried again today and yet again most of the people were just sat there surrounded by people. Still laggy as ****.

Using the manual summon signs works better (STILL laggy) but there seems to be no auto-summoning for any of the protection covenants. Aldrich, the Wolf and the two Darkmoon covenants nothing ever seems to be happening.

@Coco_pierrot: I'm not standing there farming the same mobs over and over to get a bunch of items just because the PvP is so bad. I can't think of ANYTHING more boring than what you just suggested.

Not to mention do you know how long that takes? Some people have said they've farmed enemies for up to eight hours at a time and only got a few drops. You need 30 to reach Rank 2 of a covenant.

@dexda: I agree with the laggyness, I have had several encounters ruined by Lag, its not my internet I have a 100mb internet connection thats fine in other games.

@thehig1: I'm always happy to duel with anyone through PvP as I don't play with the aim to win. I aim for a good throw-down :)

However, you might want to check the fight clubs on GFAQ, I'll be in JezzVs club tonight on P.C (Near Great Belfry bonfire/ Password dragon). Don't fancy waiting this time, as it was a painful yesterday with no duel. . . When I should have ignored the troII bait. Anyway;

So recommend you use GFAQ or the arranged session above. If I'm late? You'll have plenty of other competition, and visa versa. You'll know which avatar I am, based on the above pic (no one else rocks Iron Flesh and twin axes like me lol)

Happy gaming

@LostProphetFLCL:

This here is whats put me off the game EVERY time this happens EVERY match it feels like! Just as im winning they heal or get away or kill me! I got sick of it and the rolling mechanic. Great Single player game.

one of the reasons why games nowadays are watered down pieces of garbage, no skill just booorrring casual that will lower your IQ rating.

The pvp could have worked if the game hade better collision boxes. Getting hit even tough the attack doesn't reach me. Died because someone landed with a plunging attack on a platform a whole character above me. Then we have these moments where I get hit but the opponent doesn't get a scratch. Pvp is purely luckbased as of now, hopefully they'll realise it and fix it. It's bullshit that you have to rank up in covenants to get certain items, otherwise I would have just skipped on the multi-player and not complained. Farming the necessary items is just a joke, so few drops of the desired item. Dark souls is my favorite game, but pvp really is broken and worse than any other game. I would rather play call of duty for multi-player.