Defiance is Borderlands?

It has the look and feel of Borderlands, but the difference is that it's an MMO. Borderlands is not. You don't see a thousand players playing at once in a living world, just up to four players every time you play BL 1 or BL 2. Also, Borderlands is in FP, whereas Defiance is in TP.

It has the look and feel of Borderlands, but the difference is that it's an MMO. Borderlands is not. You don't see a thousand players playing at once in a living world, just up to four players every time you play BL 1 or BL 2. Also, Borderlands is in FP, whereas Defiance is in TP.

Metamania

So it's a really shltty, grindy, unfun version of Borderlands.

Think I'll just keep playing Borderlands.

borderlands wannabe

I didn't realise Borderlands was about to have its own TV show to link in with the game...

or let you have 50+ people playing together in huge battles

or was a third person shooter MMO

Oh wait - we just need to compare it to something that people like in order to slag it off - carry on :roll:

Not really. Blandz is FPS, while Defiance is TPS. Also, Blandz has way more guns that Defiance, and Defiance is a MMO 

No it is not Borderlands!!

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

It has the look and feel of Borderlands, but the difference is that it's an MMO. Borderlands is not. You don't see a thousand players playing at once in a living world, just up to four players every time you play BL 1 or BL 2. Also, Borderlands is in FP, whereas Defiance is in TP.

Shame-usBlackley

So it's a really shltty, grindy, unfun version of Borderlands.

Think I'll just keep playing Borderlands.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

It has the look and feel of Borderlands, but the difference is that it's an MMO. Borderlands is not. You don't see a thousand players playing at once in a living world, just up to four players every time you play BL 1 or BL 2. Also, Borderlands is in FP, whereas Defiance is in TP.

Black_Knight_00

So it's a really shltty, grindy, unfun version of Borderlands.

Think I'll just keep playing Borderlands.

Of course, aren't all MMOs?

It's a broken genre as far as I'm concerned. 

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

So it's a really shltty, grindy, unfun version of Borderlands.

Think I'll just keep playing Borderlands.

Shame-usBlackley

Of course, aren't all MMOs?

It's a broken genre as far as I'm concerned. 

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] You mean it's possible to be less fun than Borderlands?Black_Knight_00

Of course, aren't all MMOs?

It's a broken genre as far as I'm concerned. 

Well, that just explains why it's broken. The game is built as a business model first and a game second. That's busted.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

Of course, aren't all MMOs?

It's a broken genre as far as I'm concerned. 

Shame-usBlackley

Well, that just explains why it's broken. The game is built as a business model first and a game second. That's busted.

I guess you could say that, yes. As far as MMOs are concerned, gameplay and plot (?) are merely accessory to keeping peopel hooked though peer pressure. What does that say about Borderlands though? I mean, it doesn't even have the excuse of being satan's business. Instead of using words to explain my opinion, I'll just post this strip, which perfectly explains my feeling on the game.Black_Knight_00

Eh, Borderlands is a loot whore game -- Penny Arcade totall misses why people love it. The arrows just serve as a means for finding more amazing shlt. For a lot of people (me included), finding a kickass weapon, armor, or whatever in Diablo struck a chord and that exact feeling is carried on in Borderlands. It may be because not many games use it (or use it well), but the same thing happened last generation with Champs of Norrath and Baldur'a Gate: Dark Alliance for me... I just fvcking love loot games. Borderlands opens it up and adds a more open world vibe to it and guns, which while stale in standard FPS stuff, works great as a one off for Borderlands. 

I dunno, I just think the urge to explore and find are two of the most important tenets in gaming (and it's one of the reasons I really don't ever talk much shlt about Pokemon even though I'd like to -- because I TOTALLY get why people like it).

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]I guess you could say that, yes. As far as MMOs are concerned, gameplay and plot (?) are merely accessory to keeping peopel hooked though peer pressure. What does that say about Borderlands though? I mean, it doesn't even have the excuse of being satan's business. Instead of using words to explain my opinion, I'll just post this strip, which perfectly explains my feeling on the game.Shame-usBlackley

Eh, Borderlands is a loot whore game -- Penny Arcade totall misses why people love it. The arrows just serve as a means for finding more amazing shit. For a lot of people (me included), finding a kickass weapon, armor, or whatever in Diablo struck a chord and that exact feeling is carried on in Borderlands. It may be because not many games use it (or use it well), but the same thing happened last generation with Champs of Norrath and Baldur'a Gate: Dark Alliance for me... I just fvcking love loot games. Borderlands opens it up and adds a more open world vibe to it and guns, which while stale in standard FPS stuff, works great as a one off for Borderlands. 

I dunno, I just think the urge to explore and find are two of the most important tenets in gaming (and it's one of the reasons I really don't ever talk much shlt about Pokemon even though I'd like to -- because I TOTALLY get why people like it).

Except that Borderlands is NOT MMO, unless you both got that point already? :P

Also, the enemy AI in Defiance is broken, You can rush past by them and they'll be like "Hey, look, nobody is there!" About five or ten seconds later, they'll immediately fire at you.

It's pretty stupid, if you ask me.

Except that Borderlands is NOT MMO, unless you both got that point already? :P

Also, the enemy AI in Defiance is broken, You can rush past by them and they'll be like "Hey, look, nobody is there!" About five or ten seconds later, they'll immediately fire at you.

It's pretty stupid, if you ask me.

Metamania

Not really. Blandz is FPS, while Defiance is TPS. Also, Blandz has way more guns that Defiance, and Defiance is a MMO

LordShockTitan

It depends on whether you're talking statistics or function. Within the gun types available in both games, each game offers the same level of variety in terms of functionality. So, for example, both games feature shotguns that vary by projectile, clip, reload type, elemental/nano effect, etc. But defiance also offers BMGs, detonators and infecters on top of the usual sniper, smg, assault rifle, lmgs, etc.

in general, Bordlerlands takes an old-school loot grind approach, whereas Defiance is an MMO based around horizontal progression.

Also, the AI is fine in Defiance. Without difficulty levels, it's hard for an MMO to come out with a single difficulty that will be both challenging but yet welcoming to all comers. I think the co-op levels could use a buff, or at least, could use difficulty levels, but solo provides more of a challenge than any other MMO i've played lately. You just can't judge it by Mount Tam. Wait till you start fighting 99ers and Dark Matter. Again, it's not going to be the most difficult shooter ever. It's a failure of the genre, imo, but short of having servers based on difficulty, not sure what you can do.

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

It has the look and feel of Borderlands, but the difference is that it's an MMO. Borderlands is not. You don't see a thousand players playing at once in a living world, just up to four players every time you play BL 1 or BL 2. Also, Borderlands is in FP, whereas Defiance is in TP.

Shame-usBlackley

So it's a really shltty, grindy, unfun version of Borderlands.

Think I'll just keep playing Borderlands.