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#1 chaplainDMK
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I'm in a bit a downer after trying out Tribes Ascend, and I'm wondering what are your most dissapointing franchise reboots?

So to me right now I have to say it's Tribes Ascend. I mean the underlying game is perfect Tribes, but it's just layered on with so much un-Tribes stupidity. Perfectly accurate rifles everywhere... Guns, guns, guns galore, and the poor saps that use the good old spinfusor and the like get massacred.Then there's the whole dumbed down base aspect, generally less tacticality involved and very poor balance.

And people think they are playing a tactical skill based game. They wouldnt last a minute in Starsiege Tribes and Tribes 2, half of the best players rely on overpowered weapons or just flag capping, which cant be defended against anymore because the static defenses are worthless, and only 2 classes have deployable defense, and mines are unlockable for one class only.

Whatever. Share your experiences.

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A lot of people were disappointed with Turok.

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I think DmC pretty much goes without saying. I can't stand post-Sakaguchi Final Fantasy, but I don't know if you'd consider that a reboot.
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#4 brucecambell
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Pretty much any franchise can be used here.

Splinter Cells reboot with Conviction is the worst reboot, worst sequel & most dumbed down game of all time. Stealth game turned generic shooter. WTF happened here?

What about Resident Evil 4? Great game for what it was but in the end it was a action game with horror elements, rather than survival/horror.

The new Tomb Raider looks amazing but at the same time it does look like more of a action game than a puzzle/platform game so maybe that may be a dissapointing reboot as well.

What about Syndicate & Shadow run? Funny how every game is turning into a action game or FPS game.

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Turok, Alone in the Dark, Perfect Dark, Prince of Persia (2008)....
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Splinter Cells reboot with Conviction is the worst rebootbrucecambell
Conviction was not a reboot though. It was a sequel, even if it changed the gameplay
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#7 contracts420
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Turok is on my list. Goldeneye 007 as well.

Splinter Cell Conviction was essentially a reboot in terms of gameplay, and a terrible one at that.

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Alone in the Dark. Good God that game sucked. It had so much promise and some amazing gameplay elements in place but failed in every other aspect

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turok was terrible
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turok was terribleyellosnolvr
Indeed, last gen's reboot was terrible too.
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Bionic Commando. Your bionic arm is your wife? Really?

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Prince of Persia. The last 2 were sh!t.

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The Tom Clancy games as of late if you can count those.

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Oh and Command and Conquer 4 if you can call that a reboot
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Turok
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I think DmC pretty much goes without saying.famicommander

Oh yeah,because you totally have the game 7-8 months before it's out,and you totally beat it.

Grow up.

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Oh and Command and Conquer 4 if you can call that a rebootchaplainDMK

christ ikr...i miss the good ol' days of westwood studios back when red alert 2 and emperor battle for dune were still popular

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[QUOTE="famicommander"]I think DmC pretty much goes without saying.GreekGameManiac

Oh yeah,because you totally have the game 7-8 months before it's out,and you totally beat it.

Grow up.

Dude, Dante starts the game with black hair, instead of his ultra-cool slick white hair that totally didn't make me have a crush on him. :lol:

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I think DmC pretty much goes without saying. I can't stand post-Sakaguchi Final Fantasy, but I don't know if you'd consider that a reboot.famicommander


Heck yeah, when Uematsu left we still had Sakaguchi, but when even he left Final Fantasy the way fans made it great and had been proud of died that very day.

Sakaguchi and Uematsu, these two ARE Final Fantasy! Espcecially combined together, Nobu Uematsu had almost the most fitting, prefect, remarkable and original score and soundtrack ideas going better than anything in the known universe with the great emotional and driving ideas of Hironobu Sakaguchi

I really like you for this post :)

And I didn't read it all, but if anyone said NFS HP was a bad relaunch I'd beg to differ, the relaunch brought it back to it's old glory, so much that I'm looking forward to NFS MW relaunch as well and hope they will combine the best elements of NFS U 1 + 2 and the old MW.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"]I think DmC pretty much goes without saying.GreekGameManiac

Oh yeah,because you totally have the game 7-8 months before it's out,and you totally beat it.

Grow up.

Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]I think DmC pretty much goes without saying.famicommander

Oh yeah,because you totally have the game 7-8 months before it's out,and you totally beat it.

Grow up.

Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.

He acts too much of an angsty teenager, which would be fine if he didn't sound like a total tosser.
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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Oh yeah,because you totally have the game 7-8 months before it's out,and you totally beat it.

Grow up.

chilly-chill

Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.

He acts too much of an angsty teenager, which would be fine if he didn't sound like a total tosser.

even that shouldnt matter people shouldnt be butthurt on a game they havent played and only seen very very few clips of

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Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.famicommander

Reserve your opinion untill the reviews come.

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Am I seriously the first person to mention Castlevania? a series that ran for 22 years with a timeline spanning nearly a millenium, and they just decided to wipe all of that away so that they could get Hideo Kojima in on the action? What a terrible waste. Note that I'm not mentioning the quality of the Lords games themselves(and for the record, I'm eagerly awaiting Mirror of Fate), only the terrible waste of doing away with such a rich mythology as Castlevania's.
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Am I seriously the first person to mention Castlevania? a series that ran for 22 years with a timeline spanning nearly a millenium, and they just decided to wipe all of that away so that they could get Hideo Kojima in on the action? What a terrible waste. Note that I'm not mentioning the quality of the Lords games themselves(and for the record, I'm eagerly awaiting Mirror of Fate), only the terrible waste of doing away with such a rich mythology as Castlevania's.El_Zo1212o

Kojima wasn't "in the action".

He was merely a consultant for the game.

The old timeline still counts.

And even if it doesn't,it is for us.:)

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#26 El_Zo1212o
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]Am I seriously the first person to mention Castlevania? a series that ran for 22 years with a timeline spanning nearly a millenium, and they just decided to wipe all of that away so that they could get Hideo Kojima in on the action? What a terrible waste. Note that I'm not mentioning the quality of the Lords games themselves(and for the record, I'm eagerly awaiting Mirror of Fate), only the terrible waste of doing away with such a rich mythology as Castlevania's.GreekGameManiac

Kojima wasn't "in the action".

He was merely a consultant for the game.

The old timeline still counts.

And even if it doesn't,it is for us.:)

To be "in on the action," is a phrase that means 'to be involved with.' It's an American idiom. And until they release(or at least announce) a new game in the original timeline, I will weep and gnash my teeth in frustration and sheer misery. Dammit! I want to know how Julius destroyed Drac in 1999!
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To be "in on the action," is a phrase that means 'to be involved with.' It's an American idiom. And until they release(or at least announce) a new game in the original timeline, I will weep and gnash my teeth in frustration and sheer misery. Dammit! I want to know how Julius destroyed Drac in 1999!El_Zo1212o

Yeah,but the way you said it sounded like you meant he was involved in a more influential way.

Maybe they will someday make games in the regular timeline again,but i doubt it.

Enjoy the new games.

Oh.and Castlevania ran for 26 years,not 22.

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]To be "in on the action," is a phrase that means 'to be involved with.' It's an American idiom. And until they release(or at least announce) a new game in the original timeline, I will weep and gnash my teeth in frustration and sheer misery. Dammit! I want to know how Julius destroyed Drac in 1999!GreekGameManiac

Yeah,but the way you said it sounded like you meant he was involved in a more influential way.

Maybe they will someday make games in the regular timeline again,but i doubt it.

Enjoy the new games.

Oh.and Castlevania ran for 26 years,not 22.

From Castlevania in 1986 until Order of Ecclesia in 2008, the original timeline ran for 22 years. Call it 24if you can shoehorn Harmony of Despair into the Canon.
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Turok Medal of Honor Hot Pursuit Wolfenstein?
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#30 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="campzor"]Turok Medal of Honor Hot Pursuit Wolfenstein?

Hot Pursuit wasn't really dissapointing, it just didn't have the old games charm. In my opinion, it just seemed sterile.
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#31 campzor
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="campzor"]Turok Medal of Honor Hot Pursuit Wolfenstein?

Hot Pursuit wasn't really dissapointing, it just didn't have the old games charm. In my opinion, it just seemed sterile.

my main complaints were -lack of splitscreen (was so fun to play nfs3:hp with splitscreen) -lack of shortcuts.
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[QUOTE="chilly-chill"][QUOTE="famicommander"] Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.almasdeathchild

He acts too much of an angsty teenager, which would be fine if he didn't sound like a total tosser.

even that shouldnt matter people shouldnt be butthurt on a game they havent played and only seen very very few clips of

Really? I thought what they showed us of the game was quite a bit for what it was, his character just seems downright an embarrassment. That said though the gameplay looks great I might just end up muting my t.v and put on music instead. lol
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Without doubt it has to be Shadowrun. It's a good game, but considering what the original was - it's a very bad move on MS's part.
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[QUOTE="famicommander"]Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.GreekGameManiac

Reserve your opinion untill the reviews come.

Only an idiot reads reviews from professional sources.
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#35 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.famicommander

Reserve your opinion untill the reviews come.

Only an idiot reads reviews from professional sources.

And only an idiot thinks that the only reviews are professional reviews.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Reserve your opinion untill the reviews come.

GreekGameManiac

Only an idiot reads reviews from professional sources.

And only an idiot thinks that the only reviews are professional reviews.

Uh, if that's what I thought then why would I have made the distinction by mentioning "professional" in the first place? I don't know what is so hard to understand for you, but I have seen enough of the game to make the determination that the battle system is going to suck. And that's enough for me to pass on it. I don't need anyone else to tell me what to think about the game.
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I don't know what is so hard to understand for you, but I have seen enough of the game to make the determination that the battle system is going to suck. And that's enough for me to pass on it. I don't need anyone else to tell me what to think about the game.famicommander

Then you're the one who's the idiot.

Wait and you'll see.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"]I don't know what is so hard to understand for you, but I have seen enough of the game to make the determination that the battle system is going to suck. And that's enough for me to pass on it. I don't need anyone else to tell me what to think about the game.GreekGameManiac

Then you're the one who's the idiot.

Wait and you'll see.

I don't know why you want me to like the game so much, but I know what I want out of a game. And this isn't it. Heavenly Sword was trash, Enslaved was trash, and this looks to be more of the same.
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]I don't know what is so hard to understand for you, but I have seen enough of the game to make the determination that the battle system is going to suck. And that's enough for me to pass on it. I don't need anyone else to tell me what to think about the game.famicommander

Then you're the one who's the idiot.

Wait and you'll see.

I don't know why you want me to like the game so much, but I know what I want out of a game. And this isn't it. Heavenly Sword was trash, Enslaved was trash, and this looks to be more of the same.

Speak for yourself, I really enjoyed Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Oh yeah,because you totally have the game 7-8 months before it's out,and you totally beat it.

Grow up.

chilly-chill

Any idiot can look at the gameplay videos and see that Bayonetta quality this is not. 30 FPS, watered down combat. I hope you're not assuming that the cosmetic makeover the game is receiving is what formed my opinion. DMC4 sucked, but this is just an insult.

He acts too much of an angsty teenager, which would be fine if he didn't sound like a total tosser.

Just like the original Dante. Awful franchise.

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#41 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Then you're the one who's the idiot.

Wait and you'll see.

contracts420

I don't know why you want me to like the game so much, but I know what I want out of a game. And this isn't it. Heavenly Sword was trash, Enslaved was trash, and this looks to be more of the same.

Speak for yourself, I really enjoyed Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

BINGO!

Plus just because a developer messes up on a game,doesn't mean they'll do the same for all their games.

:)

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When The first Bomberman first came to Xbox 360. The turok series since the N64. Section 8, Bonic commando. Did Splatterhouse count as a root or a reimagining? Sometimes publishers reimagine. Instead of reboot a series.

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When The first Bomberman first came to Xbox 360. The turok series since the N64. Section 8, Bonic commando. Did Splatterhouse count as a root or a reimagining? Sometimes publishers reimagine. Instead of reboot a series.

Megavideogamer
Section 8 was a reboot?