Do you have to be older to enjoy retro gaming?

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#1 JetLagz28
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I ask this question because when I was at EB games the other day, these two middle school kids were talking about something that interested me. From the part of the conversation I heard, one had a Xbox and one had a PS3 or 360. The kid with the standard Xbox was upset that he didn't have something new like his friend. As he walked past the bargain bin of Xbox games that every EBgames or Gamestop has, the same one I was looking in, the Xbox kid said "look at these old games...this is what I have..old school...it's so old.....".

You get the point. I use to work with kids so I'm comfortable talking to different young age groups. I spoke up and told him "ya know, you can by 5 to 8 GOOD Xbox games for every PS3 or 360 game."

I didn't say anything more because I realized, that at age 24, I was an old man to these kids. I knew how that kid felt because I use to feel that way. I wanted to say something about how I made the mistake of selling my SNES for a N64, then made the mistake of selling off my N64 for a Game Cube, giving away my game boy pocket, my Genesis for $5 to a friend freshman year of high school, or the $40 for my Dreamcast senior year. All because the system at the time wasn't new anymore and I thought it sucked.

Do you have to have a little stubble on your chin before you realize that the games are STILL fun despite age?

I have since spent a lot of money on ebay regaining my childhood ;)

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#2 FFuematsufan
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Well, i'd say nes games wouldn't be enjoyable to the younger generation due to its difficulty; but I enjoyed atari games when I played them for the first time last year.

Normal difficulty on games now a days are just too easy. So I don't think kids now a days will say that nes are the best games ever. All I hear about people who's first console ever is xbox360 (yes they're in high school, and so am I) is that nes games are too hard and they suck. lolol.

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#4 podliver
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Gameplay is the only aspect that matters to me...I don't care about graphics. Plus, old games are DIRT CHEAP!!!!

I'm a junior in high school by the way.

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#5 _AbBaNdOn
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You covered so many issues lol.

-I think little kids are stupid and dont realize the value in keeping older systems. I think this is more motivated by the need for $$ versus the nastalgia factor. You may make a little $ at the time but what price would you set on playing those old games again? Which would you want more if you could even think about it like that. (I was never that strapped for cash, I have sold off some games before but that sucked lol, I dont think I could ever do it with an entire console.)

-Do you have to be old to enjoy older games? Well there would be two hurdles to jump over. The first one is a crapshoot on whether or not the person would like any given game normally. Some games suck and some games rock and it just depends on personal taste as to which is which. The second hurdle would be if the person was open or close minded. Can they ignore the obviously fubared graphics and different controls? In general I think it would be 50/50 just like it is now with picking games.

-Older people by default most likely grew up with old school games and would be more willing to forgive the decayed graphics and simple controls. Nastalgia would overide alot of things that would make them shoot down current games.

Hardcore gamers want to play all games on all systems so they can experience all the good games. And if your not hardcore you dont matter =P

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#6 TheLordHimself
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Well, my 8 year old brother plays games on a range of consoles from PS3 to Sega Megadrive (Genesis), and seems not to be bothered at all by vastly inferior graphics.

I think i've made mistakes in the past by selling A LOT my old PS1 games. (Only FF7, FF8 and Abe's Odysee remain from my original collection) Because of 'New and better things' I sold them without realising my mistake. I've re-bought some old PS1 games and been glad that I did, and have 2 on order from amazon as of yesterday.

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#7 JuarN18
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I regret selling my Genesis :(, back on topic i think that if you want to enjoy retro gaming, you need to have a mentality that games are not only a trend or a fashion sometimes i play my n64 with my friends and they give a f*** , the graphics or the poor(by today standards) n64 analog stick, the only thing that matters is fun and alot of old games have that and more.

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#8 DeerhunterIA
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I don't understand the idea of an "old" game. Sounds like those kids thought the game or system was no longer fun because it wasn't the most recent. A fun game is a fun game despite when it was first released. And I have NEVER sold a game. And I'm glad I haven't.
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#9 YourChaosIsntMe
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Usually, but there are a lot of factors, and there are always exceptions (like the kid who's older brother had the PSX with Namco and Activision arcade compilations). There will always be a few kids who are interested in discovering the past, but most of them will discover it through emulation. You'll also find that a vast majority are indifferent or directly critical of previous generations, which relates to the inherent linear subjectivity ingrained within most people, and children/adolscents exhibit subjectivty and a predisposition towards group think more blatantly than other age groups. A few other people discussed nostalgia, which ironically has the capacity to exhibit OUR inherent subjectivity, and is a major factor in our enjoyment of "classic" or "retro" games.

I think the real truth is this: you can't really enjoy or understand "retro" games unless labeling such games "retro" leads you to realize just how much of your life you've wasted.

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#10 Shiggums
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I'm only 18 and I like to go play older games when I get the chance. 90's gaming of course. But kids nowadays will look at the PS1/N64 era the same way my generation of gamers looked at the NES and Atari eras.
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#11 revolutiontim
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I regret selling my Genesis :(, back on topic i think that if you want to enjoy retro gaming, you need to have a mentality that games are not only a trend or a fashion sometimes i play my n64 with my friends and they give a f*** , the graphics or the poor(by today standards) n64 analog stick, the only thing that matters is fun and alot of old games have that and more.

JuarN18

Thats completely right on whats cool and in for society. Being only 21 years old I played SNES not much just mainly for donkey kong country :P But as I gotten older I have relazied what I missed out on. Playstation was where I got my game addiction. And sold it and got a ps2. Now I have rebought my collection plus added more to it. To me the last generation of video games (ps2, gc, xbox) seemed to care more about gameplay than graphics. I haven't jumped into this gen probably won't for the only reason many games are the same with pretty graphics, with a 60 dollar price tag.

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#12 Carbine_Wasted
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yeah i regret selling my n64.
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#13 asherlin77
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Well, seeing as how all of us were only kids when we fell in love with them, I'd say you don't have to be old to enjoy them. I don't recall older people enjoying them back in the day.......thus, no; you don't have to be older to enjoy them.
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#14 Fredrick2003x
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Of course you don't need to be old :lol:.

That hilarious how he said Xbox was "old school".

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Well, seeing as how all of us were only kids when we fell in love with them, I'd say you don't have to be old to enjoy them. I don't recall older people enjoying them back in the day.......thus, no; you don't have to be older to enjoy them.asherlin77

Yeah, but sometimes we forget what it was to be a kid. No, you don't HAVE to be older to enjoy them, but most of us who do are (and like this thread shows, there are obviously exceptions). There weren't as many older people who enjoyed them in the late 80's and early 90's, but there was a niche audience that had grown up with the Atari and Magnavox consoles. With kids, their tastes are often directed by peers and by extension, the media. Sure, some kids are going to get into classic gaming, but they certainly wont represent the majority, at least not anytime in the near future.

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#16 kadomony1988
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nah you aint gotta be older. im only 20 years old and i still enjoy playing NES,SNES,and genesis games all the time
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#17 Black_Knight_00
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Do you have to be older to enjoy retro gaming?

JetLagz28

This question has been bugging me for a while. I don't know, maybe it's a matter of generation:

I'm 27 and when I started playing games the NES and the Master System were the most advanced consoles and a game like Mario Bros 3 was technically amazing. So, since I grew up with those games, back then I found systems like the Atari 2600 or the Intellivision to be limited and prehistoric (though I clearly see their value today).

The same applies to kids of the present day: they start playing games on machines like the PS2, PS3, 360 or PC, which offer not only better graphics and sound but also more depth of play than older games: speaking in terms of games, we were born in a 2D world, while they are born in a 3D world, even 4D world as I dare call some MMORPGs. It's normal that they think older games are prehistoric and limited. The only way to educate them is to show them how good those games are.

Just the other day a 13 y/o kid asked me what was the greatest game of all time. I said Tetris, because that's what I consider the greatest thing in gaming, well he looked at me like I was some kind of alien from outer space and asked me to talk in more recent terms... ok, so I said Mario 64. Same reaction... and same reaction to all the games I mentioned. See what I mean?

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Well, i'd say nes games wouldn't be enjoyable to the younger generation due to its difficulty; but I enjoyed atari games when I played them for the first time last year.

Normal difficulty on games now a days are just too easy. So I don't think kids now a days will say that nes are the best games ever. All I hear about people who's first console ever is xbox360 (yes they're in high school, and so am I) is that nes games are too hard and they suck. lolol.

FFuematsufan

I agree with this!!!

Games have been made "accessable" these days - which means they are easier! I think this is because they have alot more content these days though? Back in the old days games were fairly short, but foooooooking hard.

I think ghosts and goblins is still the hardest game in the world

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#19 flubagalub
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I'm 15 and I still enjoy older games. I still own my Gameboy Colour and 3 games (Pokemon Gold, Resident Evil Gaiden and Super Mario Bros. Deluxe) and I still play them all the time (especially Mario. Even though it's a port of the original Mario game that came out some 20 years ago I still love it).
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#20 angryfodder
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I still also find it weird that the xbox is "retro" these days.

I still have some PS2 titles and XBOX titles that I need to go back and finish off - plus a load that I need to buy and play!

I never got round to playing MGS3 snake eater

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#21 -Wheels-
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I think it has to do with the games kids grow up on now. I die a little more inside every time I see a kid point to a case at another movie to game adaptation. Of course they aren't going to like it later, because it sucks. The market has become saturated with crap. I remember my non-gamer mother used to not even have to ask me for what games I wanted during the SNES days, every time she picked out a classic. Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Pilot Wings, Super Rtype, just all kinds of awesome games. Still love them to this day.

I had an instance similar to yours in the store. It was in Target, and Yoshi's Island for GBA came on the preview screen. Yoshi's Island is probably my favorite Mario game of all time back on the SNES. These 2 kids in middle school see the game and instantly start making fun of it. Saying how, gay it looks because of the colors and everything. I mean, that's Super Mario World 2. It's crazy to see how narrow gamers are getting in their selections. It's like companies trained them to be like this or something. Idk, just a thought.

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#22 LoG-Sacrament
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retro games like sonic and super mario bros would likely be easier for children to pick up and play. so in a way, retro gaming is more suited to younger kids,

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#23 Thiago26792
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It depends in each person. I have liked SNES games since I was three. I still love them and want to download some for the Wii's VC. I like retro gaming a lot and I'm only 15.
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At first I use to think that I enjoyed "Retro" gaming because it was memories of my youth,

But I was in grade school during the Master System/NES Era, and I still get a kick out of playing Carnval Games on an Atari 2600, or playing some REALLY old looking games on a Fairchild F,

But when I was in my teens I solely played what was "New" so perhaps its an age thing, but I think you have had to make it through a gaming generation or two before you learn to appriciate that the cool stuff right now is because of games that broke ground a generation or two ago.

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#25 trick6952
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im 18 years old it dosent matter to me how old a game is all i care about is the gameplay and how fun it can be to play rather than graphics like for instance I still play the original Super Mario Bros and that game came out in 1985 I was born in 89 so it honestly dosent bother me at all

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#26 Nintendo_D00d
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i'm 16, and i luv retro games, but mostly SNES, Genesis, and N64
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Only one of my friends appreciates my love of older games, but hes 22 so hes from that era, I'm 15 but I still love SMB and Sonic CD.
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I don't think so. I'm 15 and my favorite games are System Shock 2, Deus Ex, and Majora's Mask.
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Also, we have to consider the fact that we all inherently consider "retro" gaming from a subjective position. As this thread shows, there are a lot of kids around the age of 15, who we can assume have exceptional taste in comparison to their peers, who say they play "retro" games and love N64 and PS1. For many of us, this is not classic. We cannot really consider it "classic" in the same way a 14 or 15 year old kid can, but these kids may not have any interest in an Atari 2600, Magnavox Odyssey, Sega Master System, or NES. Likewise, this may even apply to the Genesis and SNES. For them, their "retro" games can begin in the mid 90's, with previous generations being archaic history. For any teenager who has posted on this thread, can you honestly say you enjoy playing Combat, Space Invaders, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Kid Icarus, Excite Bike, Street Fighter.....? If you can, how many peers your age can say the same? Do you come across many? Or do you find that you're an exception, even where the 32/64-bit generation is concerned? I'm 22, and most other people my age that enjoy retro gaming do not go past the Master System/NES/7600 due to the lack of historical reference. Most people my age don't play retro games preceeding the late 80's, and kids that are 15 probably aren't going to play retro games that preceed the early to mid 90's. Due to technology's inherent rapid growth (and the expansion of our consumer culture into every aspect of commerce and industry), the widespread enjoyment of any form of media for a given age demographic is going to be dictated by historical reference. Anyway, I'm aware of the fact that most people my age don't enjoy arcade and home console titles from the late 70's to the mid 80's, but due to extenuating circumstances, I do. My best friend had a 7600 with an armload of 2600 game before I got an NES, so I inevitably came to develop reference for the original titles (but only a select few). Over time, we can develop a more concise appraisal of history with maturity and greater knowledge and awareness, which may lead individuals to discover the history of their art, profession, or hobby, which provides ample reference for enjoyment in and of itself, though most gamers aren't as involved or interested as most of us, so in essence, we're ALL the exception, rather than the rule.

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#30 ModernTimes
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I think a gamer at any age could enjoy the SNES/Genesis. These games still hold up very well. The N64 and the PS1 are a different story. These games are awful now. I doubt you could go from a PS3 to the N64.
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Also, we have to consider the fact that we all inherently consider "retro" gaming from a subjective position. As this thread shows, there are a lot of kids around the age of 15, who we can assume have exceptional taste in comparison to their peers, who say they play "retro" games and love N64 and PS1. For many of us, this is not classic. We cannot really consider it "classic" in the same way a 14 or 15 year old kid can, but these kids may not have any interest in an Atari 2600, Magnavox Odyssey, Sega Master System, or NES. Likewise, this may even apply to the Genesis and SNES. For them, their "retro" games can begin in the mid 90's, with previous generations being archaic history. For any teenager who has posted on this thread, can you honestly say you enjoy playing Combat, Space Invaders, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Kid Icarus, Excite Bike, Street Fighter.....? If you can, how many peers your age can say the same? Do you come across many? Or do you find that you're an exception, even where the 32/64-bit generation is concerned? I'm 22, and most other people my age that enjoy retro gaming do not go past the Master System/NES/7600 due to the lack of historical reference. Most people my age don't play retro games preceeding the late 80's, and kids that are 15 probably aren't going to play retro games that preceed the early to mid 90's. Due to technology's inherent rapid growth (and the expansion of our consumer culture into every aspect of commerce and industry), the widespread enjoyment of any form of media for a given age demographic is going to be dictated by historical reference. Anyway, I'm aware of the fact that most people my age don't enjoy arcade and home console titles from the late 70's to the mid 80's, but due to extenuating circumstances, I do. My best friend had a 7600 with an armload of 2600 game before I got an NES, so I inevitably came to develop reference for the original titles (but only a select few). Over time, we can develop a more concise appraisal of history with maturity and greater knowledge and awareness, which may lead individuals to discover the history of their art, profession, or hobby, which provides ample reference for enjoyment in and of itself, though most gamers aren't as involved or interested as most of us, so in essence, we're ALL the exception, rather than the rule.

YourChaosIsntMe

lol yeah. when somebody called n64 retro, i was thinking "wth? i remember when mario 64 was cutting edge." i never thought that someone probably looked at me calling the sega genesis retro and thought "wth? pong is retro."

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#32 YourChaosIsntMe
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[QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"]

Also, we have to consider the fact that we all inherently consider "retro" gaming from a subjective position. As this thread shows, there are a lot of kids around the age of 15, who we can assume have exceptional taste in comparison to their peers, who say they play "retro" games and love N64 and PS1. For many of us, this is not classic. We cannot really consider it "classic" in the same way a 14 or 15 year old kid can, but these kids may not have any interest in an Atari 2600, Magnavox Odyssey, Sega Master System, or NES. Likewise, this may even apply to the Genesis and SNES. For them, their "retro" games can begin in the mid 90's, with previous generations being archaic history. For any teenager who has posted on this thread, can you honestly say you enjoy playing Combat, Space Invaders, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Kid Icarus, Excite Bike, Street Fighter.....? If you can, how many peers your age can say the same? Do you come across many? Or do you find that you're an exception, even where the 32/64-bit generation is concerned? I'm 22, and most other people my age that enjoy retro gaming do not go past the Master System/NES/7600 due to the lack of historical reference. Most people my age don't play retro games preceeding the late 80's, and kids that are 15 probably aren't going to play retro games that preceed the early to mid 90's. Due to technology's inherent rapid growth (and the expansion of our consumer culture into every aspect of commerce and industry), the widespread enjoyment of any form of media for a given age demographic is going to be dictated by historical reference. Anyway, I'm aware of the fact that most people my age don't enjoy arcade and home console titles from the late 70's to the mid 80's, but due to extenuating circumstances, I do. My best friend had a 7600 with an armload of 2600 game before I got an NES, so I inevitably came to develop reference for the original titles (but only a select few). Over time, we can develop a more concise appraisal of history with maturity and greater knowledge and awareness, which may lead individuals to discover the history of their art, profession, or hobby, which provides ample reference for enjoyment in and of itself, though most gamers aren't as involved or interested as most of us, so in essence, we're ALL the exception, rather than the rule.

LoG-Sacrament

lol yeah. when somebody called n64 retro, i was thinking "wth? i remember when mario 64 was cutting edge." i never thought that someone probably looked at me calling the sega genesis retro and thought "wth? pong is retro."

One of my points exactly! To the original gamers, we're the same thing as 12 year old kids calling an Xbox or N64 retro are to us. Retro is subjectively defined by age! Obviously, it's easier for gamers older than us to recognize the NES etc. as "retro" now, because of how much time has passed, but it's still effectively the same thing. As kids, we looked back on the Intellivision and Colecovision with criticism, we certainly came to appreciate them for what they were with age, but as children, we couldn't care less, some of us weren't even interested after getting into "classic" gaming! Even with my enjoyment of some of the classic 2600 titles as a child, I ripped through old 2600 titles in comparison to the almighty NES. Even the 7600 titles seemed archaic in comparison even though they were the same generation, because of what Atari represented.

Though now, I've come to realize how useful older consoles (2600 era-NES era) are. My girlfriend wont play anything between the NES and Wii. Not even interested. Sure, she thought the Katamari games were interesting, and thought Viva Pinata was cute, but she wont really PLAY them. She'll just comment on them as I play them. Seriously, an Atari 2600 and Nintendo Wii are indispensable in getting game-time before 11pm in a "serious" co-habitation relationship. Nothing like letting a girl believe she's better at Combat than you are ;)

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#33 SDOT55
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What do you mean in terms of older? Do you mean like 20 and up older or like 15 and up older? Because I'm 16 and me and my friends still play SNES and NES games all the time. I dont think little kids would appreciate the older games though.
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not for me, but for many people yes. im 16 and im starting to collect my first consoles games : PS2, GC, XBOX, and maybe DREAMCAST :)
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That's what you get with the current ADD generation. They need constant sensory bombardment to be happy about anything. I only started gaming on the SNES I didn't think I was old. I still have it though so sympathies to you heh.
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#36 CrazyFanboy
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I regret not taking good care and losing alot of my old ps1 games, I used to also trade alot of games in. I never sold the console though.
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#37 GatCloudX
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you dont have to be older i remember selling my ps1 i regret it so much and even though there is backwards compatibility and everything i regret selling my copy of legend of the dragoon even though the first time i bought it it was 15 bucks.

I used to see the greatest hits version of ff7 on the shelves of blockbuster i wanted to buy it but i was 10 and my mom wouldnt let me due to it being T rated so i never got to play it but now im going on ebay frequently to buy old psone games like recently i bought Final Fantasy 7 and im looking to buy eight the nastalgia enthralls me to search for these games and im only 16 years old whe nff7 came out i was way too poor ro buy a ps1

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#38 GatCloudX
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i should have never traded in my ps1 collection i was a stupid 12 year old that wanted more gamecube games