Does the GBA have a better RPG library than the Super Nintendo?

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#1 Australianpope
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I think personally, that the GBA, is the only, and best portable for rpgs. Gamboy/color/NG/DS/Watar/LYNX/Gamepark/etc. all failed in this area. So I decided to compare, and IMO came to a certain conclusion, that the GBA rpg library is leagues better than the SNES library. Comparison lists: SNES: Illusion of Time/Gaia Lufia Lufia 2 Crono Trigger/Chrono Trigger FFIV FFVI Secret of Mana Secret of the Stars Secret of Evermore 7th Saga Robotrek EVO Earthbound Soul Blazer Shadow Run Soul Blazer Breath of Fire Breath of Fire 2 Gameboy Advance: Breath of Fire 1 Breath of Fire 2 FFI and 2 FF5 FFVI MMBN1 MMBN2 MMBN3W/B MMBN4R/B MMBN5P/C MMBN6G/F MMBCC Summon Night Summon Night 2 Final Fantasy Tactics Advance PKMN R/S/E Lufia:Ruins of Lore Golden Sun Golden Sun 2 Shining Soul Shining Soul 2 Sword of mana FFIV Phantasy Star collection I think it's clear which has the higher quality output.
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#2 rilpas
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uuummm.... that's a hard question to answer. But I think I'd go with the Snes, the best version of FF6, Chrono Crisis, Ogre Battle, etc.
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#3 Emerald_Warrior
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  • Actraiser
  • Breath of Fire 1 & 2
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Final Fantasy 2 & 3
  • The Secret of Mana

The sheer awesomeness of those games alone, as they're presented on the SNES, clinches it for me. The SNES.

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#4 logicalfrank
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This is a tough question. I am gonna call it a push. Part of the reason GBA's library is so great is all the home console ports and I think, if I had to chose overall, I'd go w/ GBA for that reason as well as some great originals like Golden Sun. SNES had more great games originall on it though. Still, to me RPGs make for ideal handheld games for me so if I can play them that way, that's what I prefer.

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#5 homegirl2180
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Your GBA list is full of Megaman Battle Networks, which were all good, but really don't have any place being compared to the likes of Chrono Trigger and FFVI. It's a very tough call, because the GBA does have its ports of FFIV,V,VI and some good originals, but the SNES has plenty of titles you can't play on the GBA, like Earthbound, March of the Black Queen, and Secret of Mana. I think I have to give the edge to the SNES.
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#6 logicalfrank
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SNES has plenty of titles you can't play on the GBA, like Earthbound....homegirl2180

Mother 1 + 2 were released on a single cart for GBA. Japan-only so no good for anyone else but it does exist and GBA is region free.. GBA is also the only place w/ Mother 3, I believe, but is also only in Japan.

*sighs*

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#7 GreekGameManiac
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Hmmmm...

Super NES.

It has those RPGs that never made it outside of Japan.

But in general,they are both very good,and personally,i like GBA's abit more,esp. since it has ports of some old RPGs.

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#8 homegirl2180
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[QUOTE="homegirl2180"]SNES has plenty of titles you can't play on the GBA, like Earthbound....logicalfrank

Mother 1 + 2 were released on a single cart for GBA. Japan-only so no good for anyone else but it does exist and GBA is region free.. GBA is also the only place w/ Mother 3, I believe, but is also only in Japan.

*sighs*

Okay, but you can't play them in your language. If we were in Germany and we were talking about which consoles were best, we wouldn't be talking about all the great games in the US that never came here. Some games like New SMB have the home language be irrelevant, but an RPG is a pain to play in Japanese because you'll need a translated script. Earthbound you can play in English on the SNES, but the Mother series you can't.
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#9 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="logicalfrank"]

[QUOTE="homegirl2180"]SNES has plenty of titles you can't play on the GBA, like Earthbound....homegirl2180

Mother 1 + 2 were released on a single cart for GBA. Japan-only so no good for anyone else but it does exist and GBA is region free.. GBA is also the only place w/ Mother 3, I believe, but is also only in Japan.

*sighs*

Okay, but you can't play them in your language. If we were in Germany and we were talking about which consoles were best, we wouldn't be talking about all the great games in the US that never came here. Some games like New SMB have the home language be irrelevant, but an RPG is a pain to play in Japanese because you'll need a translated script. Earthbound you can play in English on the SNES, but the Mother series you can't.

Germany?

Try living in Greece and be a gamer...

>_>

lol

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#10 nintendofreak_2
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The GBA also has Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon, Riviera: The Promised Land, Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green, and Fire Emblem Blazing Sword/Sacred Stones. I'd say all of those are games that ought to be mentioned.

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I would say the SNES, but it's close.

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#12 Dj-Dampleaf
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I need to play more Rpgs so I can get into these discussions. I have FFV and VI Advance if that means anything, playing them now. For SNES the only thing I got is Robotrek and another one I can't remember at the moment, it was an artistic Rpg, and everything was oddly colored and you choose your attacks with the D-pad instead of the B or A button.
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#13 GamerForca
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No, but the GBA has a very strong lineup of RPGs. The main reason I'd go with the SNES is that I found some of the best RPGs on the GBA, like the Golden Sun series, to be decent, but nothing compared to games like FFII (IV), FFIII (VI), Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, etc. Though Fire Emblem Blazing Sword and Tactics Ogre certainly give the GBA a strong argument.
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No, but the GBA has a very strong lineup of RPGs. The main reason I'd go with the SNES is that I found some of the best RPGs on the GBA, like the Golden Sun series, to be decent, but nothing compared to games like FFII (IV), FFIII (VI), Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, etc. Though Fire Emblem Blazing Sword and Tactics Ogre certainly give the GBA a strong argument.GamerForca
Didn't TC list FFIV FFVI and Sword of Mana on the GBA list as well? I don't think you could call those advantages.
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#15 StatusShuffle
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]uuummm.... that's a hard question to answer. But I think I'd go with the game in my sig, Ultima IV.

Yes, yes.
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#16 GamerForca
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[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] Didn't TC list FFIV FFVI and Sword of Mana on the GBA list as well? I don't think you could call those advantages.

Secret of Mana =/= Sword of Mana. It is far better. Chrono Trigger still stands. And IV and VI are an advantage to me because I played them when they originally released, and obviously they didn't quite have the same feeling to me when I got them for GBA because I had already played them.
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[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] Didn't TC list FFIV FFVI and Sword of Mana on the GBA list as well? I don't think you could call those advantages.

Secret of Mana =/= Sword of Mana. It is far better. Chrono Trigger still stands. And IV and VI are an advantage to me because I played them when they originally released, and obviously they didn't quite have the same feeling to me when I got them for GBA because I had already played them.

But the topic really isn't about that, it's about game vs. game. A better argument would maybe have been to say something like FFVI doesn't control as well as the SNES version and that that is so significant it makes the GBA version so inferior. The purpose of this thread seems to want to take nostalgia aside and basically ask that if somebody could get one system and all its RPGs and they never played either, which should they get? That's how I took the question anyway, and I feel probably leads to the most objective way of responding.
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Not really because a lot the games that you listed for the GBA were originally on the SNES. The top contender for the GBA though would have to be Golden Sun 1 & 2, but that's about it.

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No, but the GBA has a very strong lineup of RPGs. The main reason I'd go with the SNES is that I found some of the best RPGs on the GBA, like the Golden Sun series, to be decent, but nothing compared to games like FFII (IV), FFIII (VI), Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, etc. Though Fire Emblem Blazing Sword and Tactics Ogre certainly give the GBA a strong argument.GamerForca

I actually think that the two Golden Sun games give the GBA a BIG step ahead. I've played all of the FF games from 1-6, and I actually find Golden Sun games to be better in every way to those games. Better magic, monster catching, puzzles, world, graphics, music, and story. I often find FF games to be a bit tedious and boring at times, but find that I never get tired of Golden Sun games (actually one big story). I have replayed the Golden Sun games 6 times. I only felt I needed to play a FF game once. Never understood why they didn't port over Chrono Trigger.....would have worked perfect.

Don't get me wrong....the FF games are classic. But I find that the fact that GBA has Golden Suns, 2D Fire Emblems (the best in series in my opinion), and the FF 1,2,4,5,6 makes it a monster in RPG land. Don't even forget all the Pokemon options, and I have to say that the GBA has a pretty stellar RPG line up. I give it a slight nod over SNES. That is just to name a few.

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But the topic really isn't about that, it's about game vs. game. A better argument would maybe have been to say something like FFVI doesn't control as well as the SNES version and that that is so significant it makes the GBA version so inferior. The purpose of this thread seems to want to take nostalgia aside and basically ask that if somebody could get one system and all its RPGs and they never played either, which should they get? That's how I took the question anyway, and I feel probably leads to the most objective way of responding.homegirl2180

My post has nothing to do with nostalgia. If you've already beaten a game, then your reaction to an exact port many years later won't be nearly as strong as it was to begin with. That's just common sense and has nothing to do with me "longing for the past." My post also didn't have anything to do with someone who has never played either system, it has to do with my own opinion. I made that quite clear.

I actually think that the two Golden Sun games give the GBA a BIG step ahead. I've played all of the FF games from 1-6, and I actually find Golden Sun games to be better in every way to those games. Better magic, monster catching, puzzles, world, graphics, music, and story. I often find FF games to be a bit tedious and boring at times, but find that I never get tired of Golden Sun games (actually one big story). I have replayed the Golden Sun games 6 times. I only felt I needed to play a FF game once. Never understood why they didn't port over Chrono Trigger.....would have worked perfect.

Don't get me wrong....the FF games are classic. But I find that the fact that GBA has Golden Suns, 2D Fire Emblems (the best in series in my opinion), and the FF 1,2,4,5,6 makes it a monster in RPG land. Don't even forget all the Pokemon options, and I have to say that the GBA has a pretty stellar RPG line up. I give it a slight nod over SNES. That is just to name a few.

jefferyjosephh

Ok. That's your opinion about Golden Sun. I think they did an excellent job with the action and puzzles. The music is good, but I'll take the FF games there. The Golden Sun games have atrocious storylines though. Most of it seems like filler, with too much "help all the people in this town and then this town and then another town and finally we'll bring you back to the main plot." I can't even put it in the same sentence as FFVI. But if you loved it, then great, I'm not arguing with your opinion. I thought Pokemon was getting stale by this time. Fire Emblem is phenomenal though.

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#21 homegirl2180
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[QUOTE="homegirl2180"]

But the topic really isn't about that, it's about game vs. game. A better argument would maybe have been to say something like FFVI doesn't control as well as the SNES version and that that is so significant it makes the GBA version so inferior. The purpose of this thread seems to want to take nostalgia aside and basically ask that if somebody could get one system and all its RPGs and they never played either, which should they get? That's how I took the question anyway, and I feel probably leads to the most objective way of responding.GamerForca


My post has nothing to do with nostalgia. If you've already beaten a game, then your reaction to an exact port many years later won't be nearly as strong as it was to begin with. That's just common sense and has nothing to do with me "longing for the past." My post also didn't have anything to do with someone who has never played either system, it has to do with my own opinion. I made that quite clear.

I wasn't accusing you of being blinded by nostalgia, I was stating what I believed to be the point of this thread. I don't believe a library is weaker just because you played the game on another system. If you're not trying to answer objectively and fairly, why answer? Also, judging by your previous reaction, I am asking in sincerity, not as a means of belittling or anything, so don't fly off the handle.

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#22 GamerForca
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I wasn't accusing you of being blinded by nostalgia, I was stating what I believed to be the point of this thread. I don't believe a library is weaker just because you played the game on another system. If you're not trying to answer objectively and fairly, why answer? Also, judging by your previous reaction, I am asking in sincerity, not as a means of belittling or anything, so don't fly off the handle.

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lol nobody flew off the handle. I can ask you the same thing: why even answer me if you can't take my opinion? Seriously, this is a message board, and the topic is clearly opinionated (the TC says IMO in the first post...). Direct ports don't receive the same critical acclaim (or acclaim from fans) that the originally released versions got. Why do you think people attack the PSP for having so many "sports and ports?" Because nobody cares if you're just now playing games that the rest of us played a decade ago.
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#24 homegirl2180
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[QUOTE="homegirl2180"]

I wasn't accusing you of being blinded by nostalgia, I was stating what I believed to be the point of this thread. I don't believe a library is weaker just because you played the game on another system. If you're not trying to answer objectively and fairly, why answer? Also, judging by your previous reaction, I am asking in sincerity, not as a means of belittling or anything, so don't fly off the handle.

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lol nobody flew off the handle. I can ask you the same thing: why even answer me if you can't take my opinion? Seriously, this is a message board, and the topic is clearly opinionated (the TC says IMO in the first post...). Direct ports don't receive the same critical acclaim (or acclaim from fans) that the originally released versions got. Why do you think people attack the PSP for having so many "sports and ports?" Because nobody cares if you're just now playing games that the rest of us played a decade ago.

Well his "IMO" was about saying the GBA was better, in his opinion. It's not "refusing your opinion", it's questioning the logic of your conclusion. If you had play the GBA remakes of FFs 1, 2, and 3 (I, IV, and VI) long before you ever played the SNES versions, does that now mean the GBA has a better library? That's the sort of issue I have with the reasoning for your opinion on why the SNES has a better library. Because if first-hand experience is all that matters, then the majority (though not all) will just pick with which they have played first and/or have better memories associated. I don't disagree that the SNES has the better library, for the record.
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#25 WitIsWisdom
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I pick the SNES especially seeing as though my favorite RPG's on the GBA were originally on the NES or SNES in the first place. However, the GBA did have some great RPG's of its own.

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#26 kyuss015
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Pretty close call, as there is also Mario and Luigi on the GBA, as well as games like the Shining Force Remake, Riveria, Tactics Ogre, Fire Emblem and a whole slew of others. The ports are a contention, as the SNES versions are usually better and were available first. Still we didn't get the original versions of Final Fantasy V or Tales of Phantasia until later. And then there is the Lunar port. Do I have to choose lol?

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#27 StatusShuffle
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I pick the SNES especially seeing as though my favorite RPG's on the GBA were originally on the NES or SNES in the first place. However, the GBA did have some great RPG's of its own.

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I don't think that there were NES Rpgs on the GBA.